silo Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) I recently re-watched the 'Prophecy of Heroes' online animation and noticed the line at 01:08 - "United, the elements hold the power to defeat evil. United, but not one." It puts emphasis on the fact that, although the elements are working together, there's a next step in their unification...personally, I think this may allude to a possible future Toa Nui with all the Toa becoming one all-powerful being (possibly linking to the MoUP). What do you think? Do think this suggests a future plot point, or do you think that this has no meaning towards the story at all?(this might have been asked before, in which case kindly close the topic ) Edited May 4, 2015 by 000 5 Quote . Kathok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petewa Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I think it to be of now importance whatsoever, though if it is, I wouldn't mind getting some Kaita. Quote Mataru Nui, an Interactive Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I think it actually puts emphasis on the fact that the Toa are all unique. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterchirox580 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Either it's a hint at a future combo model or it's the narrator trying to sound mysterious. Quote It's time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALVIS Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Back when the episode first came out, the prevailing interpretation that I saw was that "United, but not one" was a warning against trying to combine the elements like Makuta did. In other words, it's better to be part of a team than to try and put all of the power into one person. 9 Quote "You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant." -- Harlan Ellison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Yes, pretty sure that line refers to the Mask of Ultimate Power, which unites all the elements in a single thing. 2 Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regitnui Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Back when the episode first came out, the prevailing interpretation that I saw was that "United, but not one" was a warning against trying to combine the elements like Makuta did. In other words, it's better to be part of a team than to try and put all of the power into one person.This is most likely, along with it perhaps being a subtle Take That towards G1's "6 heroes, 1 destiny" slogan. Quote Elemental Rahi in Gen2, anyone? A write-up for an initial video for a G2 plot I really wish everyone would stop trying to play join the dots with Gen 1 and Gen 2 though,it seems there's a couple new threads everyday and often they're duplicates of already existing conversations! Or simply parallel them with a slightly new 'twist'! Gen 2 is NEW, it is NOT Gen 1 and it is NOT a continuation. Outside of the characters we already have I personally don't want to see ANY old characters return. I think it will cheapen the whole experience to those of us familiar with the original line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowl Nightwolf Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Back when the episode first came out, the prevailing interpretation that I saw was that "United, but not one" was a warning against trying to combine the elements like Makuta did. In other words, it's better to be part of a team than to try and put all of the power into one person.This is most likely, along with it perhaps being a subtle Take That towards G1's "6 heroes, 1 destiny" slogan. Yeah I'm inclined to think that this is a warning in the prophecy. Along the lines of "There is no "I" in team." Or that in order to win each has to bring a unique aspect of their element in unity but without there being no single powerful element. It is the balance between the 6 elements not their combination that brings victory. 2 Quote "A stranger will always be a stranger unless you give them a chance." || <- My Pokémon | BZPRPG Characters: Po-Matoran Doseki & Nui-Jaga Scorpio; Ga-Matoran Orca Matoran und Panzer: Doseki & Glitch | Marvel RP PC | Mata Nui Monopoly: Come... Own a piece of the legend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyichir Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I never gave much thought to that phrase, but the suggestions you guys shared of what it might mean are really good! I do think diversity (and how differing personalities and opinions can make a team stronger) is a key message of the new theme. But the observation about how it could be meant to contrast the Toa's individual powers with the Mask of Ultimate Power is also a good point. 1 Quote Formerly Lyichir: Rachira of Influence Aanchir's and Meiko's brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlexander Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 >Toa Kaita ocnfirmed 2016 Quote |"We are the Turaga of the new generation." ~OwlexanderYouTube - Imgur - Flickr - Bionicle RPG Chat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowl Nightwolf Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 An official Kaita would be cool and maybe down the line with the advancement of the dark forces they may require the use of one. Still I am thinking not; due to the sacred rule about combining more than one element. We already know the delicate balance could be disrupted by doing so. What with the creation of the Mask of Ultimate Power and the effect it had on the island as soon as Makuta put it on. and he wasn't but a Protector in size and power. If a Toa or group of Toa combined elements like that it would spell disaster. Quote "A stranger will always be a stranger unless you give them a chance." || <- My Pokémon | BZPRPG Characters: Po-Matoran Doseki & Nui-Jaga Scorpio; Ga-Matoran Orca Matoran und Panzer: Doseki & Glitch | Marvel RP PC | Mata Nui Monopoly: Come... Own a piece of the legend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regitnui Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 An official Kaita would be cool and maybe down the line with the advancement of the dark forces they may require the use of one. Still I am thinking not; due to the sacred rule about combining more than one element. We already know the delicate balance could be disrupted by doing so. What with the creation of the Mask of Ultimate Power and the effect it had on the island as soon as Makuta put it on. and he wasn't but a Protector in size and power. If a Toa or group of Toa combined elements like that it would spell disaster.Seconded. Though Protector Kaitas aren't disallowed yet, if three villagers from the same tribe combine. I suppose three Toa could do the same and still be within religious beliefs, if there were more than 6. Quote Elemental Rahi in Gen2, anyone? A write-up for an initial video for a G2 plot I really wish everyone would stop trying to play join the dots with Gen 1 and Gen 2 though,it seems there's a couple new threads everyday and often they're duplicates of already existing conversations! Or simply parallel them with a slightly new 'twist'! Gen 2 is NEW, it is NOT Gen 1 and it is NOT a continuation. Outside of the characters we already have I personally don't want to see ANY old characters return. I think it will cheapen the whole experience to those of us familiar with the original line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowl Nightwolf Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 An official Kaita would be cool and maybe down the line with the advancement of the dark forces they may require the use of one. Still I am thinking not; due to the sacred rule about combining more than one element. We already know the delicate balance could be disrupted by doing so. What with the creation of the Mask of Ultimate Power and the effect it had on the island as soon as Makuta put it on. and he wasn't but a Protector in size and power. If a Toa or group of Toa combined elements like that it would spell disaster. Seconded. Though Protector Kaitas aren't disallowed yet, if three villagers from the same tribe combine. I suppose three Toa could do the same and still be within religious beliefs, if there were more than 6. This is true. Though combining of more than one element is disallowed it has not said anything about boosting a single element by combining 2 or more of that same element. Though in the case of villagers if they are powerless then 0 x?? will still equal 0. Quote "A stranger will always be a stranger unless you give them a chance." || <- My Pokémon | BZPRPG Characters: Po-Matoran Doseki & Nui-Jaga Scorpio; Ga-Matoran Orca Matoran und Panzer: Doseki & Glitch | Marvel RP PC | Mata Nui Monopoly: Come... Own a piece of the legend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Nui Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I never gave thought to it, nor did I take much notice of it. It's probably just referring to the Mask of Ultimate Power and how the six elements being forged into a mask was bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorek Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I like the interpretation of celebrating diversity (and not falling into the dangers of recreating the MOUP), but I read it as WAY more literally; the elements may be united as a team, but there are six bearers, end of story =P. 6 Quote BS01's Ambassador (Like us, Follow us) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSciFiGuy Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Not sure, though it would be cool if they either kaita or have to unite to share the power of the MouP. Basically Guardians of the Galaxy it 1 Quote Bionicle: ANP aims to create narrated versions of all the Bionicle books, with voice actors for each character, and music taken from various media to enhance the story. Check here if you're interested in voicing a character, and here for the chapters that've already been released!Formerly: Tahu Nuva 3.0Looking for a Bionicle Beanie. Black one with the symbol on it. Contact me if you are willing to sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidhiki of the Shadows Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I think it's just stating that while their powers are all unique, it takes the unification of the Toa as a TEAM to finally defeat evil and restore peace to Okoto. It's something that's been explored in G1 Bionicle multiple times. -NotS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny7092 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) I recently re-watched the 'Prophecy of Heroes' online animation and noticed the line at 01:08 - "United, the elements hold the power to defeat evil. United, but not one." It puts emphasis on the fact that, although the elements are working together, there's a next step in their unification...personally, I think this may allude to a possible future Toa Nui with all the Toa becoming one all-powerful being (possibly linking to the MoUP). What do you think? Do think this suggests a future plot point, or do you think that this has no meaning towards the story at all?(this might have been asked before, in which case kindly close the topic ) I am wondering about these last lines, too. Gali said the first one in the end of episode 8, but the second one, I am not sure. However, when I watched the part in episode 1, where the Protector of Fire was telling the prophecy to his son, when you can see a carved picture where there are the six Toa surrounding the Mask of Creation when he said the second line, I would imagine that hopefully the Toa becoming two Kaita to awaken Ekimu. Ekimu is put into an endless sleep and is in a coffin where his body in resting, so I think that it would take the Kaita to wake him up somehow. When the Protector said "but not one", it could mean that a Toa Nui is possible in G2 or still impossible. Otherwise, like you guys said above, it would share the same power as the Mask of Ultimate Power, which Makuta used to destroy Okoto once he started wearing it. Edited May 8, 2015 by Lenny7092 Quote I like Lego, Bionicle, and Hero Factory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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