Kopaka's Krazy Eyepiece

[Ghidora131]

So.

 

We saw in '08 Kopaka's eyepiece on his adaptive Akaku got reversed.

 

Consider this:

 

 

For a long time now, Kopaka has trained, battled, explored, adjusted completely to the eyepiece being on the right side of his face. Yet somehow, he's able to fight perfectly fine when it's altered, expanded in length and switched to his other eye.

 

This should technically have screwed up his vision so that he could barely see straight. How does this work?

[Lyichir]

So.

 

We saw in '08 Kopaka's eyepiece on his adaptive Akaku got reversed.

 

Consider this:

 

 

For a long time now, Kopaka has trained, battled, explored, adjusted completely to the eyepiece being on the right side of his face. Yet somehow, he's able to fight perfectly fine when it's altered, expanded in length and switched to his other eye.

 

This should technically have screwed up his vision so that he could barely see straight. How does this work?

Short answer: they're essentially toy robots. Their vision doesn't necessarily follow the same rules as actual living things, and the upgrade to "adaptive armor" more or less involved them being rebuilt from the ground up, including heads, eyes, etcetera. It's not too much of a stretch to assume that his neural pathways (or the robotic equivalent) were reconfigured to allow him to use the eyepiece on the other eye.

 

That is to say, if it's even necessary. Kopaka's eyepiece essentially works like a magnifying scope, and when using almost any sort of scope, you basically have to shut the non-focusing eye by necessity to see clearly. Considering that, the only change he would need to make in battle would be "shutting" his left eye instead of his right.

[The 1st Shadow]

and the upgrade to "adaptive armor" more or less involved them being rebuilt from the ground up, including heads, eyes, etcetera. It's not too much of a stretch to assume that his neural pathways (or the robotic equivalent) were reconfigured to allow him to use the eyepiece on the other eye.

 

 

From a storyline perspective, that couldn't be further from the truth. Onua once removed what was basically his Nuva armor on Voya Nui, to show the VNRT that he was no threat to them. This left him as basically a Mata again. Similarly, removing the Nuva armor and replacing it with AA shouldn't have changed their bodies at all. They still look exactly the same. It's like you taking off a t-shirt and replacing it with a dress shirt--your body underneath has not changed.

 

This is further evidence by the confirmation that Tahu Stars was just a representation of the Tahu Mata set with AA on his torso and limbs. The parts used in the set are not accurately representing the change that occurred in Legends #8.

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Anyway, I always thought of it like this: The scope picks up the image, and then projects that image into the user's mind. After all, how would the Akaku Nuva share it's powers with others nearby, seeing as not everyone has a scope on their mask? The image would have to be relayed to them somehow, so my guess is that the Akaku has some form of telepathic circuit that allows it to send the image into the user's mind (both Great and Nuva).

Edited June 20, 2015 by The~1st~Shadow

[Rooster Nui]

In a very summarised way, he should not have been used to it. He was however, because it's a story about a toyline, therefore anything can happen.

[Ballom Nom Nom]

MST3K Mantra, people, MST3K Mantra. (Although I feel this is best directed at S&T as a whole. I'm surprised this topic isn't there, to be honest.)

 

It's a tiny detail, and easily explained if you so desire by the combined facts of him being robotic, and it being a scope and not vision-correcting, so which eye is used wouldn't matter terribly.

 

~B~

[-Windrider-]

Moving to S&T.

[ToaKapura1234]

Well yes there is a real world reason but that doesn't mean there can't be an in story explanations and that's what we're here to discuss. Although I would like to point out a few things

 

1. becoming Nuva was a transformation while adaptive armor was not.

 

2. their eyes have been confirmed to be organic.

 

3. the scope is not related to the Akaku's powers, it simply allows the user to zoom in and is not shared by the Kanohi Nuva. Not all Akakus have this scope(like Solek's). and it can in fact be on any mask (like Toa Nuju's Matatu). It is only on the mask of every Mata Matoran with an Akaku because they didn't want to design a second Akaku mask. Presumably the in story explanation is either that Akakus frequently have scopes due to their visual powers or, what I think is more likely, to honor Kopaka. This explains why they almost all(it was confirmed some that were never seen did not) have Toa Mata and Turaga masks, to honor their Turaga and the legendary Toa.

Edited June 21, 2015 by ToaKapura1234

[The 1st Shadow]

2. their eyes have been confirmed to be organic.

 

2. That was never confirmed, unless Greg just confirmed it within the last few hours.

 

I do like your point about the scopes being an add-on, rather than an integral part of the original design. However, it is the scopes we are talking about. It's called the Mask of X-Ray Vision, not Mask of Telescopic Vision. The scope allows the user to see farther in addition to seeing through things.

[ToaKapura1234]

I thought for sure that it had been confirmed Matoran eyes and lungs were organic.

[unknown456]

Well, in relation to the M.U. eyes, Gelu describes Orde's in The Yesterday Quest as:

That was when Gelu noticed the look in Orde's eyes.  Even though they were mechanical receptors of visual stimuli, they still managed to reflect emotion - in this case, shock
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(Emphasis mine.) 

 

So...yeah, I guess that they're mechanical, unless there's organic eyes/stuff behind the (for lack of a better term) 'eye screen'  

 

Still no idea about the scope though...

Edited June 21, 2015 by unknown456

[Toa of Ice - 1987]

Technically we all know that the adaptive armor excuse gave the toa nuva 3 goals

 

- Allows their names to be used in 2008
- Adapts them to a new look and gave them poseability because of 2003's outdated articulation

- Grants them greater defensive options and abilities to handle any enviroment

 

My guess from a logical standpoint is simple. Artakha listened to their tale when the Toa arrived at his fortress, he allowed them to explain to him how they were defeated by the Piraka. Artakha may thought about how the Toa Mata he once created had gone through a lot since he last saw them in person and decided that they had earned a a new upgrade stronger than the unexpected 2003 armor they were wearing, after all he understands his creations best.

But back to the point of the lens i dont think it is much of a issue for mechanical eyes to adapt to a change like that, still  i'll never understand why lego didn't keep the lens on the original side of the mask like his old ones.

Edited June 21, 2015 by ---Kopaka Nuva---

[N.S.M.8]

That is to say, if it's even necessary. Kopaka's eyepiece essentially works like a magnifying scope, and when using almost any sort of scope, you basically have to shut the non-focusing eye by necessity to see clearly. Considering that, the only change he would need to make in battle would be "shutting" his left eye instead of his right.

Uhh, no. 

 

Speaking from experience, you should always keep both eyes open while using your gun/bow/Midak Skyblaster.  Most classes teach that you should try to keep both eyes open but only look through one of them and ignore the information coming from the other eye.

 

Also, in most humans (and possibly Toa), one eye is more dominant than the other and should be the one that you shoot with.  It is possible that Kopaka (and possible all Toa) do not have a dominant eye.  

[Rahkshi Lalonde]

But back to the point of the lens i dont think it is much of a issue for mechanical eyes to adapt to a change like that, still  i'll never understand why lego didn't keep the lens on the original side of the mask like his old ones.

 

what i can assume happened, is they got kopaka mixed with Nuju when designing "white good guy", (the 2008 akaku looks more like the matatu in almost every way, plus, the matatu was the last white mask to have the scope, and it was designed four years ago from their perspective!)

[Nidhiki of the Shadows]

He channelled some Nuju, that is all

 

-NotS

Edited July 17, 2015 by Nidhiki of the Shadows

[bonesiii]

I always saw that as the set designers being a bit dyslexic (not literally though) and not really worrying about things like that. Nuju's was on the other side too; for him it didn't matter, but just randomly throwing a visor on his face at all looked like they just assumed Ko Toa were supposed to have visors because Kopaka did. Of course, they might have intentionally switched sides at the time to make it clearer he wasn't Kopaka... but avoiding a visor in the first place would have done that. And the visor was originally supposed to be connected to the power. Now a visor was on a mask that moves things with the mind.

 

So basically that seemed wonky enough that when Kopaka's own visor switched sides, wasn't surprising. Was kinda like how photos are often flipped, and people don't necessarily notice. So instead of a photo being flipped, an entire set was flipped. In-story it seems as far as I recall that they treated as if the flip didn't happen, so I'd say this is probably a reasonable way to look at it -- "pretend it's on the other side."

 

It also might not be that hard to switch back and forth. Shouldn't assume it would be.

[JMSOG]

Prefacing this with "I'm not too knowledgable about anatomy at all"...But I know that, in the same way that people are left or right handed, people have a dominant eye...Perhaps kopaka is just ambidextrous...?

[Ghidora131]

Apparently extremely ambidextrous.

[Toa Cykron]

Because set designers.

 

But seriously, it's not a huge deal even irl. I heard about an eye experiment that was conducted on this guy to see the effects of longterm blindness in each eye. After wearing an eyepatch over his right eye for 2 weeks, he was able to pass a standard eye exam for that eye after a few seconds of focusing after the patch was removed.

 

Plus, I don't think Kopaka's zoom function is always on anyway, so he could have pretty normal binocular vision most of the time regardless of how his mask looks.

[Hidron Nuva]

Maybe he's got his eyepiece on the other side because that's the side of the Midak Skyblaster?

Anyway, I doubt it could be a problem for him - when the eyepiece isn't active, it should work like a normal eye.