What if Generation 1 is a continuation of Generation 2?

[ToaKapura1234]

That is not a typo. What if the elemental masters are the first Great Beings to arrive on Spherus Magna, and the villagers are the early Agori with all of this long before the Core War. Later when Mata Nui was built, the Makuta species and Toa Mata were names after these ancient legends. I know this isn't canon but I thought it would add a little variety to all the Generation 2 is a continuation of Generation One topics. Do you see anything else that might support this theory?

[Nidhiki of the Shadows]

Woah this is like the third G1-G2 connection topic I've seen in a row. 

 

-NotS

[Lyichir]

That is not a typo. What if the elemental masters are the first Great Beings to arrive on Spherus Magna, and the villagers are the early Agori with all of this long before the Core War. Later when Mata Nui was built, the Makuta species and Toa Mata were names after these ancient legends. I know this isn't canon but I thought it would add a little variety to all the Generation 2 is a continuation of Generation One topics. Do you see anything else that might support this theory?

GOOD GRIEF. Three of these topics in as many days is too many. We need a master topic for these kinds of headcanons or something, because they're becoming a massive nuisance.

 

Regarding your "theory", and what evidence that could support it... there literally isn't any. You're using incomprehensible lengths of time and the vagaries of legend to obfuscate the fact that the Toa (elemental masters) are, in fact, Toa, that they have nothing in common with Great Beings, that the villagers are not Agori, that the setting is different, the characters are different. We know that, canonically, there is no connection, and your theory does nothing more than ask "what if there WAS?"

[fishers64]

Uh, this topic is legal under the S&T rules and guidelines, as was the other three topics made on the subject.

 

With that being said, I find your theory extremely unlikely, for the following reasons:

 

1. Spherus Magna is not an island.

2. The Agori cannot use Mask powers, and there is no evidence to suggest they ever could.

3. The Great Beings are mostly confirmed to be of the Glatorian species, and as such cannot use the powers of Toa.

 

And IMO the answer to your question is, respectfully, that a lot of fans who wanted it to be a reboot with no connection will be dissapointed and angry with Lego.

[Lyichir]

Uh, this topic is legal under the S&T rules and guidelines, as was the other three topics made on the subject.

 

With that being said, I find your theory extremely unlikely, for the following reasons:

 

1. Spherus Magna is not an island.

2. The Agori cannot use Mask powers, and there is no evidence to suggest they ever could.

3. The Great Beings are mostly confirmed to be of the Glatorian species, and as such cannot use the powers of Toa.

 

And IMO the answer to your question is, respectfully, that a lot of fans who wanted it to be a reboot with no connection will be dissapointed and angry with Lego.

I understand that it's "legal". That doesn't mean we need three distinct topics essentially discussing the same thing: "What if there was a connection between G1 and G2?" I'm not saying that isn't something people might enjoy discussing, but I think if there were a single topic for that, the people who want to discuss that would be able to more effectively bounce ideas off one another, and the people who didn't would not have to wade through piles of connection topics to get to a topic that actually has something to say about the canon story.

[ToaKapura1234]

Actually the reason I created this topic is because I agree that we don't need so many G2 is a sequel to G1 topics and this could add some variety to that discussion. But a master topic is a good idea.

[Sumiki]

This forum is less and less the "storyline and theories" and more and more the "how can we connect the two generations" forum.
 
All G1-G2 connection theories have been thoroughly debunked by LEGO employees, and while I appreciate the novelty of your G2-G1 theory, it doesn't seem to hold water as fishers pointed out. At this point, I don't think it's unfair to say that connection topics are cluttering the forum; half of the first ten non-pinned topics pertain to it.
 
In fact, the more of them I see, the more I'm perplexed by why there's such a forum-wide clamor of members furiously trying to tie the generations together.

[bonesiii]

Lychir, the problem with having one topic for it (an official topic), is it would give the appearance of endorsing such theories.

 

People are bound to have those kinds of theories, in pretty much any return of anything, ever. It's like, it'll occasionally rain. It's human nature, like rain is the nature of weather. Oh well. Just take it as an unfortunate side effect of what is a good thing -- that IT'S BACK!! Everything has pros and cons, yanno? (Like rain of course having benefits... the analogy kinda breaks down though but yeah.)

Edited July 19, 2015 by bonesiii

[Toa Cykron]

Lychir, the problem with having one topic for it (an official topic), is it would give the appearance of endorsing such theories.

 

People are bound to have those kinds of theories, in pretty much any return of anything, ever. It's like, it'll occasionally rain. It's human nature, like rain is the nature of weather. Oh well. Just take it as an unfortunate side effect of what is a good thing -- that IT'S BACK!! Everything has pros and cons, yanno? (Like rain of course having benefits... the analogy kinda breaks down though but yeah.)

This. People are stoked, and as long as these sorts of headcannon/theories are not in blatant disregard of the rules, it's harmless. It's fun to speculate about this stuff!

[Logan McOwen]

What if there's no connection at all and it's in fact a reboot?

reboot

Gee, what a thought.

Almost as if that's actually the case.
 

Edited July 24, 2015 by Logan McOwen

[ToaKapura1234]

I know this isn't canon

It's just a what if, I figured as long as the connection discussions must exist why not add some variety to them?

[Toa Cykron]

 

I know this isn't canon

It's just a what if, I figured as long as the connection discussions must exist why not add some variety to them?

I think you're right. Folks like to take this way too seriously. There is nothing wrong with discussing possibilities: even if they are a tad unlikely. Edited July 25, 2015 by Toa Cykron

[Petewa]

Actually the reason I created this topic is because I agree that we don't need so many G2 is a sequel to G1 topics and this could add some variety to that discussion. But a master topic is a good idea.

Y'know, it was the exact other way around when I posted g2 came after g1 topic, it seems t be going full circle.

[Banana Gunz]

 

That is not a typo. What if the elemental masters are the first Great Beings to arrive on Spherus Magna, and the villagers are the early Agori with all of this long before the Core War. Later when Mata Nui was built, the Makuta species and Toa Mata were names after these ancient legends. I know this isn't canon but I thought it would add a little variety to all the Generation 2 is a continuation of Generation One topics. Do you see anything else that might support this theory?

GOOD GRIEF. Three of these topics in as many days is too many. We need a master topic for these kinds of headcanons or something, because they're becoming a massive nuisance.

 

Regarding your "theory", and what evidence that could support it... there literally isn't any. You're using incomprehensible lengths of time and the vagaries of legend to obfuscate the fact that the Toa (elemental masters) are, in fact, Toa, that they have nothing in common with Great Beings, that the villagers are not Agori, that the setting is different, the characters are different. We know that, canonically, there is no connection, and your theory does nothing more than ask "what if there WAS?"

 

 

Not really, these topics aren't becoming a massive nuisance. If you have such a problem with people theorizing about possible connections, then you should just look the other way. I don't think his theory is right, and for reasons stated, possible- but it's not doing anything to you or the canon. It's no different than when people theorized HF and Bionicle being connected. If you can explain to me exactly what harm these topics are doing, then fine. I simply don't understand why people take these types of topics as a personal insult to themselves.

 

It feels like some fans have developed a "higher culture" where they look down on anyone who feels differently or likes something about the old generation more than the new one or wants to legitimately criticize it. It's understandable when someone has a poor opinion built on mis-truths, but it doesn't feel like that's always the case. Bionicle is for everyone...

[Ballom Nom Nom]

And what if unicorns existed? I'd be equally surprised by that.

 

~B~

[FallenCor]

Alright, dearies, it's just a harmless theory. If the number of same-topic threads really is a problem, there's a simple solution for it: don't reply to them. If a thread gets little to no attention, it will be lost in the feed where it can no longer be an eyesore, and maybe people will get the message without having to be ranted at. Besides, going to the trouble of replying in such a manner will only get these threads the attention you didn't even want them to have.

As to the theory itself, I think it's a refreshing spin on the usual. Improbable, for the reasons Fishers stated, but still interesting to see. Perhaps some fan-fic writers will derive inspiration from this -- you never know!

[You just lost the game]

It's pretty much common knowledge that this version of Bionicle is a reboot.

Which is quite unfortunate, because it basically throws away 10 years of created lore into the trash.

 

Unless they're doing a multiverse storyline....

[Lyichir]

It's pretty much common knowledge that this version of Bionicle is a reboot.

Which is quite unfortunate, because it basically throws away 10 years of created lore into the trash.

 

Unless they're doing a multiverse storyline....

They haven't thrown anything in the trash. I'm looking over at my shelf of Bionicle books, and they're still there, in the same exact condition I left them in. BioSector01 still exists to catalog all the twists and turns of the old story. The Bionicle movies are still watchable, and in fact they're now watchable in more formats than ever thanks to streaming services like Netflix.

 

All they've done is started fresh with a new story. There's not a single thing wrong with that. The original Bionicle is essentially a closed book, and has been since Makuta was ultimately defeated five years ago.

 

No one accused Christopher Nolan of "throwing 65 years of Batman lore in the trash" for starting fresh with a new version of Batman's origin story in Batman Begins. No one accused Hasbro of "throwing 25 years of My Little Pony lore in the trash" when they relaunched the series as My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Why on earth would you accuse of Lego of doing so just for starting fresh with one of their historically successful lines, especially when that line was literally killed by the overwhelming amount of lore it accumulated over the course of its ten year run?

[Jobber]

It's pretty much common knowledge that this version of Bionicle is a reboot.

Which is quite unfortunate, because it basically throws away 10 years of created lore into the trash.

 

Unless they're doing a multiverse storyline....

It's pretty much a 'What if..." or an alternate reality like you mentioned. Even if LTG doesn't down right say it.

[You just lost the game]

 

It's pretty much common knowledge that this version of Bionicle is a reboot.

Which is quite unfortunate, because it basically throws away 10 years of created lore into the trash.

 

Unless they're doing a multiverse storyline....

They haven't thrown anything in the trash. I'm looking over at my shelf of Bionicle books, and they're still there, in the same exact condition I left them in. BioSector01 still exists to catalog all the twists and turns of the old story. The Bionicle movies are still watchable, and in fact they're now watchable in more formats than ever thanks to streaming services like Netflix.

 

All they've done is started fresh with a new story. There's not a single thing wrong with that. The original Bionicle is essentially a closed book, and has been since Makuta was ultimately defeated five years ago.

 

No one accused Christopher Nolan of "throwing 65 years of Batman lore in the trash" for starting fresh with a new version of Batman's origin story in Batman Begins. No one accused Hasbro of "throwing 25 years of My Little Pony lore in the trash" when they relaunched the series as My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Why on earth would you accuse of Lego of doing so just for starting fresh with one of their historically successful lines, especially when that line was literally killed by the overwhelming amount of lore it accumulated over the course of its ten year run?

 

The books in your shelf are now obsolete.

That's what Lego has done.

 

Lego has done almost the same thing DC did with the New 52.

Reimaginings of characters that didn't need to be "reimagined".

 

Christopher Nolan's Batman is an alternate universe story.

There's no comparison.

 

On top of that, Bionicle didn't end because of its lore. 

It ended because Lego wanted it to end.

Greg had said that he had another 3 years worth of story he wanted to write for Bionicle on Bara Magna. 

Then Lego basically said, "Rush the story and end it."

 

No one liked the New 52. (Originally)

No one liked when Disney got rid of the EU in Star Wars.

And IMO, I don't like how Lego has decided to reboot over 10 years of established lore.

(It would make me feel much better if they said this is an alternate universe storyline)

 

Lego hasn't specifically said that the old lore means nothing now, but that is what a reboot implies.

 

I'm still ready and willing to enjoy the new story, but it saddens me that the original lore is being ignored atm.

[Regitnui]

So the names of the Masters and our beloved villain is 'the original lore being ignored? To borrow a phrase,"the broad strokes are the same, but the details have been tweaked." Would you rather have the Spherus Magna universe, with two different citizen species, two different warriors, elders and gods all dropped on the new Bionicle fan's head? The lore isn't being ignored, it's being adapted, and as Lyichir said; G1 hasn't gone anywhere. TLG didn't say that G1 is being overwritten. It's all still there. It's less like Disney chopping off the Star Wars EU and more like a new writer taking the story of Luke and Vader in a different direction from the beginning.

[Lyichir]

 

 

It's pretty much common knowledge that this version of Bionicle is a reboot.

Which is quite unfortunate, because it basically throws away 10 years of created lore into the trash.

 

Unless they're doing a multiverse storyline....

They haven't thrown anything in the trash. I'm looking over at my shelf of Bionicle books, and they're still there, in the same exact condition I left them in. BioSector01 still exists to catalog all the twists and turns of the old story. The Bionicle movies are still watchable, and in fact they're now watchable in more formats than ever thanks to streaming services like Netflix.

 

All they've done is started fresh with a new story. There's not a single thing wrong with that. The original Bionicle is essentially a closed book, and has been since Makuta was ultimately defeated five years ago.

 

No one accused Christopher Nolan of "throwing 65 years of Batman lore in the trash" for starting fresh with a new version of Batman's origin story in Batman Begins. No one accused Hasbro of "throwing 25 years of My Little Pony lore in the trash" when they relaunched the series as My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Why on earth would you accuse of Lego of doing so just for starting fresh with one of their historically successful lines, especially when that line was literally killed by the overwhelming amount of lore it accumulated over the course of its ten year run?

 

The books in your shelf are now obsolete.

That's what Lego has done.

 

Lego has done almost the same thing DC did with the New 52.

Reimaginings of characters that didn't need to be "reimagined".

 

Christopher Nolan's Batman is an alternate universe story.

There's no comparison.

 

On top of that, Bionicle didn't end because of its lore. 

It ended because Lego wanted it to end.

Greg had said that he had another 3 years worth of story he wanted to write for Bionicle on Bara Magna. 

Then Lego basically said, "Rush the story and end it."

 

No one liked the New 52. (Originally)

No one liked when Disney got rid of the EU in Star Wars.

And IMO, I don't like how Lego has decided to reboot over 10 years of established lore.

(It would make me feel much better if they said this is an alternate universe storyline)

 

Lego hasn't specifically said that the old lore means nothing now, but that is what a reboot implies.

 

I'm still ready and willing to enjoy the new story, but it saddens me that the original lore is being ignored atm.

 

You're right that there was more planned for Bionicle, yet it had to be rushed to an end. WHY did it have to be rushed to an end? Because the theme was failing. WHY was it failing? Because it was not accumulating new fans at a sustainable rate. WHY wasn't it accumulating new fans at a sustainable rate? Because the ten-year, multi-medium saga that had come before was a huge obstacle that any newcomers to the franchise needed to clear to even begin to understand the overarching story. None of this is a secret. We've known about the factors that led to Bionicle's cancellation for years now.

 

And there was never really any chance of Bionicle coming back as a continuation. Even Greg has admitted that if he were in charge of bringing Bionicle back, it would have to be as a reboot. To bring it back as a continuation would be to sabotage it before it started, because the factors that led to the theme's cancellation would not just go away over time (if anything, they'd be WORSE, because the majority of older fans accepted the theme's end and moved on, while new fans would still have just as much lore to catch up on as before). So the question isn't "should Bionicle have been a continuation?" but rather "should it have ever come back in the first place?" And either way, the story presented in G1 was over.

 

So the names of the Masters and our beloved villain is 'the original lore being ignored? To borrow a phrase,"the broad strokes are the same, but the details have been tweaked." Would you rather have the Spherus Magna universe, with two different citizen species, two different warriors, elders and gods all dropped on the new Bionicle fan's head? The lore isn't being ignored, it's being adapted, and as Lyichir said; G1 hasn't gone anywhere. TLG didn't say that G1 is being overwritten. It's all still there. It's less like Disney chopping off the Star Wars EU and more like a new writer taking the story of Luke and Vader in a different direction from the beginning.

Also, this. None of the G1 canon has been changed at all. The books are still canon... to G1. The movies, the serials, the comics, all still canon... to G1. Call it an "alternate universe" if you like (it essentially is, though I don't like using the term for it since the G1 story used universe-hopping so liberally). But G1 is totally unharmed by the introduction of a new canon.

[Takametru007]

I think that the G2 world probably is connected in some way, but in a way that won't take away from it being it's own story- or be a continuation of G1

[The Dream Eater]

> The original Bionicle is essentially a closed book, and has been since Makuta was ultimately defeated five years ago.

> And either way, the story presented in G1 was over.

 

The far future of the reformed Spherus Magna would have been the perfect setting for a reboot, but Okoto is great too. My only gripe with Gen2 is that statements like those above aren't true. Velika was a massive twist and we were finally getting somewhere with the red star. Now was the revival mechanism a bad idea on Greg's part? Yeah, probably, but I wanted to see where it took us. If that story arc had come to a conclusion I'd be satisfied. It didn't. If that story arc had never begun, I'd have been similarly satisfied because I actually liked the 2010 story. But it did. Hence, no satisfaction.

[believe victims]

> The original Bionicle is essentially a closed book, and has been since Makuta was ultimately defeated five years ago.

> And either way, the story presented in G1 was over.

 

The far future of the reformed Spherus Magna would have been the perfect setting for a reboot, but Okoto is great too. My only gripe with Gen2 is that statements like those above aren't true. Velika was a massive twist and we were finally getting somewhere with the red star. Now was the revival mechanism a bad idea on Greg's part? Yeah, probably, but I wanted to see where it took us. If that story arc had come to a conclusion I'd be satisfied. It didn't. If that story arc had never begun, I'd have been similarly satisfied because I actually liked the 2010 story. But it did. Hence, no satisfaction.

 

That's not LEGO's fault for not continuing the story, that's Greg's fault for trying to continue after the story was over. Without sets to back it up, it was inevitable he'd have to drop Bionicle in favor of projects that make him money (which he kinda needs to live). He bit off more than he could chew when he tried to continue the story on his own time.

 

The Bionicle story did finish. The Bionicle story was the story of the Toa vs. Makuta. When that conflict was settled, and Spherus Magna was reformed, the story reached its close. Greg wasn't adding on to an open story, he was starting a new one in the same universe. Was that story unfinished? Perhaps, but it's hardly false to say the Bionicle story didn't end, because it did. It was an ultimately doomed attempt to tell a new story that didn't.

 

Christopher Nolan's Batman is an alternate universe story.

There's no comparison.

 

What? Are we making up new reasons why some reboots are okay and others aren't now? I don't see any reason why Christopher Nolan's Batman is any less a reboot than Bionicle 2015. They're not exactly still making comics in the original Batman's universe, last I checked. I don't think they have for decades. They made new Batmans instead, and you justify this by saying they're all just alternate universes, even though any one of them makes the original Batman obsolete to any extent a Bionicle reboot makes the original Bionicle story obsolete.

 

There is exactly one reason why you care about Bionicle rebooting and the New 52 but not Christopher Nolan's Batman: you grew up with the original Bionicle, but not the original Batman. The Batman you grew up with was Christopher Nolan's, so that's just fine.

 

You justify it to yourself by saying there's a difference, there has to be a difference, but there isn't. They're both reboots. They both make the original story just as obsolete. How obsolete is up to you, not the story. Bionicle G1 is there for you whenever you want it. It's just never going to continue, just as nobody's really jumping on making Batman comics set in his 1940s universe.

[Logan McOwen]

I am so bored of these threads.

It's a reboot. End of.

[Guardian Legend]

I am so bored of these threads.

 

It's a reboot. End of.

So don't post in them.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

What if Tobey Maguire suddenly morphed into Andrew Garfield and found a new Uncle Ben and Osborns?

 

What if Michael Keaton morphed into Val Kilmer who morphed into Clooney who morped into Christan Bale?

 

What if when Eric Bana turned back from being the Hulk, he suddenly looked like Edward Norton? And then it happened again but he looked like Mark Ruffalo?

 

 

 

Like, can we just accept its a reboot already? And appreciate both generations for what they did/are doing?

Edited September 2, 2015 by Ragnar Lothbrok

[Tuuli]

I support matoran and the matoran universe I never liked the glatorian saga and this seems too cheap of a theory considering how the story is coming along. Please no more agori no more Bara Magna

[Zorkaz]

I am so bored of these threads.

 

It's a reboot. End of.

Right, okay, we got it. However, if it really was a complete reboot with NOTHING to do with the OLD Universe, then what the are the OLD characters doing in this thing? This is my insignificant theory: it really is a prequel. The Toa Nuva or Mata or whatever were originally created by Artakha (who just happens to own the Mask of Creation), right? And, at this time Makuta (Teridax) was still alive. It seems to me that the most likely way this story fits in with the old, is that this is prequel.

THIS is my theory. This whole storyline, (Okoto, finding the masks and Ekimu etc.) is a Beta Test for the Toa Mata. The team have been created by Artakha and are being tested before deployement. Everything is just a simulation. The island, the 'Protectors', the spiders, and Makuta, are all tests for the new Toa made by Artakha!

Another reason this works, is because both Artakha AND the Toa Nuva are still roles in the ongoing storyline. Artakha is in the Great Being's Fortress or whatever with Vezon, Brutaka, Axonn, Helryx, Tuyet and Miserix!

Anyway, that's just my theory

[Toa Imrukii]

I am so bored of these threads.

 

It's a reboot. End of.

 

It you think so than why are you commenting in a place where others think otherwise? If it's boring than GO SOMEWHERE ELSE ! ! ! ! !

 

This is BZPower there is a whole RAINBOW​of opportunity here to do something else! Go post a MOC, or do an RP, or frankly anything other than this you can do!

[Lyichir]

 

I am so bored of these threads.

 

It's a reboot. End of.

Right, okay, we got it. However, if it really was a complete reboot with NOTHING to do with the OLD Universe, then what the ###### are the OLD characters doing in this thing? This is my insignificant theory: it really is a prequel. The Toa Nuva or Mata or whatever were originally created by Artakha (who just happens to own the Mask of Creation), right? And, at this time Makuta (Teridax) was still alive. It seems to me that the most likely way this story fits in with the old, is that this is prequel.

THIS is my theory. This whole storyline, (Okoto, finding the masks and Ekimu etc.) is a Beta Test for the Toa Mata. The team have been created by Artakha and are being tested before deployement. Everything is just a simulation. The island, the 'Protectors', the spiders, and Makuta, are all tests for the new Toa made by Artakha!

Another reason this works, is because both Artakha AND the Toa Nuva are still roles in the ongoing storyline. Artakha is in the Great Being's Fortress or whatever with Vezon, Brutaka, Axonn, Helryx, Tuyet and Miserix!

Anyway, that's just my theory

 

The old characters are in the story for the same reason the old characters of Transformers are in almost every Transformers reboot, or the same reason Spider-Man is in every Spider-Man movie reboot, or the same reason James Bond and his supporting cast are in every James Bond movie reboot. "Reboot" doesn't mean the story has nothing in common with the original one—on the contrary, it simply refers to when the accumulated lore of a story is discarded and the story is started over with only the basics maintained. In Bionicle's case, those basics consist of six heroes (Tahu, Kopaka, Onua, Gali, Lewa, and Pohatu) on a tropical island, fighting against the forces of the evil Makuta. As such, that's what's stayed the same between the two canons. But the context of those characters has been altered—rather than a robotic Great Spirit, the Toa are seeking to awake a good mask maker who is Makuta's equal; rather than the island of Mata Nui, the Toa are on the island of Okoto; rather than mind-controlled animals, the Toa are fighting undead warriors; et cetera.

 

The problem with your theory is that it is convoluted and relies heavily on the lore of the previous story to understand the new one, and avoiding that was the entire reason for the story to be rebooted in the first place. If the story followed the theory you've devised, then it would inevitably link up to the classic canon and acquire the same faults that led to the theme's demise back in 2010. Repeating the classic theme's mistakes would defeat the purpose of starting fresh in the first place. That, plus the fact that we've been told specifically that the new story is a reboot, which rules out any connection theories that imply otherwise.

[believe victims]

 

I am so bored of these threads.

 

It's a reboot. End of.

 

It you think so than why are you commenting in a place where others think otherwise?

 

Because when people are wrong it's usually a good idea to correct them?

[masterchirox580]

G1 and G2 are not connected. And I don't see why people want them to be. It would just make both stories more complicated. 

[Dane-gerous]

this has been confirmed multiple times to be a HARD reboot.

why people are ignoring this I will never understand.

[Toa Imrukii]

this has been confirmed multiple times to be a HARD reboot.

why people are ignoring this I will never understand.

 

The reason is because, we want it to be true man! Please don't kill our hopes and dreams! 

 

Edited September 16, 2015 by Toa Imrukii

[Sybre]

Hey.

 

Hey guys.

 

Get this.

 

What if...

 

Tell me if it's crazy, but what if...

 

G1 and G2 aren't connected?!

 

gasp

[FallenCor]

Instead of ranting at each other and perpetuating bad feelings, how about we simply leave it alone? If "hard reboot" isn't an acceptable answer for some people, why go out of your way to pound that argument into them? How many fans refused to accept the GSR reveal, or Teridax's name? This is no different.

Give it time -- G2 is still new. Things change, people change, mindsets change. The facts we know today could be elaborated on at a later date, or even contradicted outright. If "hard reboot" carries through to the end of G2 and some people still feel that there is a G1 connection, what does it matter? If you feel the need to correct them, do so. But please be courteous. If it's not enough for them, so be it; you've done your job.

[Aanchir]

Instead of ranting at each other and perpetuating bad feelings, how about we simply leave it alone? If "hard reboot" isn't an acceptable answer for some people, why go out of your way to pound that argument into them? How many fans refused to accept the GSR reveal, or Teridax's name? This is no different.

Yeah, but I don't remember people creating a dozen topics in Storyline and Theories explaining why the GSR wasn't REALLY Mata Nui's body or Teridax wasn't REALLY Makuta's name, but that these were lies meant to misdirect us so we wouldn't be prepared when the REAL truth was revealed.

 

I agree that sometimes the biting sarcasm and irritation in people's posts can get out of hand. After all, Storyline and Theories is a different place than it used to be, with plenty of discussion of "headcanons" that everybody knows aren't official (like the "who were your Bionicle ships" topic). So it's not as if a topic for a person's individual headcanon is against the rules. People could make topics trying to link the Bionicle and My Little Pony continuities and it'd probably be A-OK by today's rules (hmm, why hasn't anybody done that?). But I can understand people getting irritated when topics like this one keep popping up over and over again.

[FallenCor]

 

Instead of ranting at each other and perpetuating bad feelings, how about we simply leave it alone? If "hard reboot" isn't an acceptable answer for some people, why go out of your way to pound that argument into them? How many fans refused to accept the GSR reveal, or Teridax's name? This is no different.

Yeah, but I don't remember people creating a dozen topics in Storyline and Theories explaining why the GSR wasn't REALLY Mata Nui's body or Teridax wasn't REALLY Makuta's name, but that these were lies meant to misdirect us so we wouldn't be prepared when the REAL truth was revealed.

 

I agree that sometimes the biting sarcasm and irritation in people's posts can get out of hand. After all, Storyline and Theories is a different place than it used to be, with plenty of discussion of "headcanons" that everybody knows aren't official (like the "who were your Bionicle ships" topic). So it's not as if a topic for a person's individual headcanon is against the rules. People could make topics trying to link the Bionicle and My Little Pony continuities and it'd probably be A-OK by today's rules (hmm, why hasn't anybody done that?). But I can understand people getting irritated when topics like this one keep popping up over and over again.

 

To your first point: I wouldn't know. I joined BZP in 2012, and from what little I've gathered in my time here, I assumed this instance was similar.   

 

Second, I totally understand that this kind of thing can be irritating. We certainly don't need half-a-dozen posts reiterating any one subject. Again, if nothing new crops up to support the G1/G2 connection theory, then it will eventually peter out. I simply ask that everyone be courteous in the meantime.

 

SPREAD THE LOVE, PEOPLE. *throws hearts at everyone*

Edited September 17, 2015 by FallenCor