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Why were the Rahi compelled to migrate to the surface as the matoran did? and why did they move back, as the matoran did?

 

Initial theory i have is that the Makuta, using masks, brought most of the dangerous Rahi to the surface, and then other Rahi whose ecosystem depended on them followed them. And the Rahi returned to Metru-Nui once the Bohrok swarms came back for the second time. 

 

Is there an official explanation for this, yet?

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Visorak are scary. 

Agreed, but what about returning? Should we presume the bohrok are also scary? 

 

Yup. The Bohrok basically tore up the landscape, removing the habitats of the Rahi. What else could they do but follow the Toa and Matoran?

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Pretty sure there were only a few/one tunnel to the surface, and when the Visorak were there the roaming rahi fled and eventually found their way to the surface. As how they got back, I think the Order/Toa were sent to clear the island before the Bahrag were released to resume their task.


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Pretty sure there were only a few/one tunnel to the surface, and when the Visorak were there the roaming rahi fled and eventually found their way to the surface. As how they got back, I think the Order/Toa were sent to clear the island before the Bahrag were released to resume their task.

There were lots of tunnels, actually. Only three were ever explored in-story, but we know there were Bohrok hives all over the place underneath Mata Nui and Metru Nui, and we can assume each of those hives had one or two access tunnels.

 

And, no, it was the Bohrok that scared the remaining Rahi back into the tunnels. A quick check of various Rahi pages on BS01 confirms that the Matoran were able to take some Rahi with them (like the Gukko, ussal, and mahi), while others (Muaka, Kane-Ra, Nui-Jaga, etc) were said to have been scared back down by the Bohrok's release.

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There were lots of tunnels, actually. Only three were ever explored in-story, but we know there were Bohrok hives all over the place underneath Mata Nui and Metru Nui, and we can assume each of those hives had one or two access tunnels.

Not at all a bad theory. I had never thought about the tunnels linking the Metru Nui Bohrok Nests to the Maze of Shadows, but admittedly it's the most likely way large numbers of land Rahi could have reached the maze without swimming through the entire Silver Sea. 

 

However, I would like to add a few more pieces of information which I haven't seen mentioned here. For a start, we know there are underwater chutes passing under the Silver Sea. We know the Visorak used them to get to Metru Nui (Nokama theorizes so in the Web of Shadows novelisation). It might be that some Rahi made use of them as well to get to the entrances to the MoS. 

In addition, I wouldn't completely rule out the possibility that at least some land Rahi did swim through the Silver Sea on their way to Mata Nui (and possibly back). We know from BL6: Maze of Shadows that they were terrified of the Visorak and that that fear was so great that it pushed even aquatic Rahi to try and pass through the land tunnels (of course, the presence of aquatic Rahi in the maze might also be due to Energized Protodermis having mutated them into that form, but I think the book still implied that the Rahi had been so desperate to escape the Visorak that they had done things which wouldn't have seemed possible).

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This is something that actually bugs me: Mata Nui is above Metru Nui. The Toa Metru and Rahi traveled from Metru Nui to Mata Nui by sea. So, how in Mata Nui's name did they go "up" water?

 

Even by BIONICLE physics, it makes little sense.

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This is something that actually bugs me: Mata Nui is above Metru Nui. The Toa Metru and Rahi traveled from Metru Nui to Mata Nui by sea. So, how in Mata Nui's name did they go "up" water?

 

Even by BIONICLE physics, it makes little sense.

If you read Voyage of Fear carefully, you'll notice that Marvah's Krahli moved the Lhikan into a tributary of the main river that was -above- the lake and the Toa Metru's prison through a tunnel of winding uphill switchbacks. So basically they went level for a ways, went on land up through the switchbacks, and then went on water level again for a ways more before arriving at Mata Nui.
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This is something that actually bugs me: Mata Nui is above Metru Nui. The Toa Metru and Rahi traveled from Metru Nui to Mata Nui by sea. So, how in Mata Nui's name did they go "up" water?

 

Even by BIONICLE physics, it makes little sense.

If you read Voyage of Fear carefully, you'll notice that Marvah's Krahli moved the Lhikan into a tributary of the main river that was -above- the lake and the Toa Metru's prison through a tunnel of winding uphill switchbacks. So basically they went level for a ways, went on land up through the switchbacks, and then went on water level again for a ways more before arriving at Mata Nui.

 

 

I guess that makes a little more sense, but they were still underground, which doesn't explain how they sailed aboveground.

 

Maybe there's a section of the river that automatically fills with water so it rises, like those locks in canals.

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Why were the Rahi compelled to migrate to the surface as the matoran did? and why did they move back, as the matoran did?

 

Initial theory i have is that the Makuta, using masks, brought most of the dangerous Rahi to the surface, and then other Rahi whose ecosystem depended on them followed them. And the Rahi returned to Metru-Nui once the Bohrok swarms came back for the second time. 

 

Is there an official explanation for this, yet?

 

I don't know if there was ever an official explanation for this. Personally, I had always assumed that the animals simply swam from Metru Nui to the tunnels, and then climbed up to Mata Nui. It makes a lot of sense that Makuta would have teleported dozens of dangerous animals to the island. That way he could (hopefully) cower the Matoran into submission, or at the least keep them from learning about Metru Nui. Maybe he even made them himself?  :???:

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I am pretty sure several rahi made it to Aqua Magna's waters from the whole in his chest (his heart broken by his brother... whyy Terry! Whyyyyy!?!!). Is it possible that any of them could have made it to Mata-Nui's waters in the thousand years Mata Nui slept depressed was in his concussive snoozing session?

 

 

Why were the Rahi compelled to migrate to the surface as the matoran did? and why did they move back, as the matoran did?

 

Initial theory i have is that the Makuta, using masks, brought most of the dangerous Rahi to the surface, and then other Rahi whose ecosystem depended on them followed them. And the Rahi returned to Metru-Nui once the Bohrok swarms came back for the second time. 

 

Is there an official explanation for this, yet?

 

I don't know if there was ever an official explanation for this. Personally, I had always assumed that the animals simply swam from Metru Nui to the tunnels, and then climbed up to Mata Nui. It makes a lot of sense that Makuta would have teleported dozens of dangerous animals to the island. That way he could (hopefully) cower the Matoran into submission, or at the least keep them from learning about Metru Nui. Maybe he even made them himself?  :???:

 

Teridax preferred more cunning rahi, not big brutish ones (even though he found uses for them). Other makuta made those and I am sure only they knew how to make the rahi they made and designed..

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I am pretty sure several rahi made it to Aqua Magna's waters from the whole in his chest (his heart broken by his brother... whyy Terry! Whyyyyy!?!!). Is it possible that any of them could have made it to Mata-Nui's waters in the thousand years Mata Nui slept depressed was in his concussive snoozing session?

 

Kind of hard to swim, fly, or walk up through a giant waterfall pouring with the force of an entire planet's ocean, isn't it?

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I am pretty sure several rahi made it to Aqua Magna's waters from the whole in his chest (his heart broken by his brother... whyy Terry! Whyyyyy!?!!). Is it possible that any of them could have made it to Mata-Nui's waters in the thousand years Mata Nui slept depressed was in his concussive snoozing session?

 

Kind of hard to swim, fly, or walk up through a giant waterfall pouring with the force of an entire planet's ocean, isn't it?

 

C'mon, man...

 

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...does this mean that SpongeBob has been in-contact with Mantax, annoying him for the past 20 years while searching for a specific tablet? And Mermaid Man and Bernacle Boy have been fighting Pit inmates with the absence fo hydraxon?  Find out next time, whenever!

 

I'd like to see that.

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Canonically, it was the Visorak. I mean, we saw in Voyage of Fear that Rahi were beginning to flee up and onto Mata Nui when the Visorak only begun their occupation of Metru Nui. I'm sure the continued occupation of the island  (ie Web of Shadows) would have led to more Rahi fleeing the now-defunct city of legends, especially given the fact that most Rahi that stayed behind became mutated, horrific things. Also, a lot of the Rahi's habitats would've been damaged by the cataclysm and the Visorak occupation, making it a thoroughly unpleasant place to return to. So there's your answer.

 

My question after saying all this is... What happened to all the mutated Rahi we saw over the course of Web of Shadows and the Hordika arc? I don't recall the key to nongu Keetongu restoring every mutant Rahi to its original state, so wouldn't they have been around when Dume awakened and chilled out in Metru Nui and when the matoran all returned? And why didn't the mutant Rahi ever appear on Mata Nui?

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I am pretty sure several rahi made it to Aqua Magna's waters from the whole in his chest (his heart broken by his brother... whyy Terry! Whyyyyy!?!!). Is it possible that any of them could have made it to Mata-Nui's waters in the thousand years Mata Nui slept depressed was in his concussive snoozing session?

 

Kind of hard to swim, fly, or walk up through a giant waterfall pouring with the force of an entire planet's ocean, isn't it?

 

C'mon, man...

 

 

You know, there were land-locked tunnels. Voyage of Fear showed us the water tunnels, but have you forgotten Maze of Shadows? The Toa Metru walked through those (Vakama twice) because they were void of water. It's even stated in that book that the rahi were swimming across the sea and using those tunnels to get up to the surface, which is why the Metru kept running into so many different beasts in a mass exodus.

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