Toa Jaxus Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 What the 2006 good guy.Which one? we had the entire Toa Inika and Axonn, so you statement is kinda vague. Get yo'self eduacted, fool. What the Karzahni? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petewa Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 What the 2006 good guy. Which one? we had the entire Toa Inika and Axonn, so you statement is kinda vague. Get yo'self eduacted, fool.What the Karzahni?His name is Good Guy, how have you not heard of him? 4 Quote Mataru Nui, an Interactive Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Jaxus Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Um, no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petewa Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The question was how have you not heard of him, not "have you not heard of him" 5 Quote Mataru Nui, an Interactive Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkle Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The question was how have you not heard of him, not "have you not heard of him"He's so hardcore he doesn't need a Kanohi. AND he uses the limbs of others as his torso. 4 Quote I been away a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahu3.0 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The question was how have you not heard of him, not "have you not heard of him" He's so hardcore he doesn't need a Kanohi. AND he uses the limbs of others as his torso.He is more cooler than Tom Cruise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Windrider- Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 All right, please keep the chatting to a minimum and stay on topic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 That living mountain on Xia.Yeah, it failed to eat Roodaka when it had the chance. Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Jaxus Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 That living mountain on Xia.Yeah, it failed to eat Roodaka when it had the chance. I think thats was to show how much of a she was because she sacrificed her friend to the mountain for political power. But on a larger scale the whole Vortixx race for making people climb a lethal omnicidal mountain for political influence, when there is only a limited population that can only decrease and the red star just isn't working any more, so any death is effectively perma-death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 That living mountain on Xia.Yeah, it failed to eat Roodaka when it had the chance.I think thats was to show how much of a ###### she was because she sacrificed her friend to the mountain for political power. But on a larger scale the whole Vortixx race for making people climb a lethal omnicidal mountain for political influence, when there is only a limited population that can only decrease and the red star just isn't working any more, so any death is effectively perma-death.I'm pretty sure there were machines to make new people. Not sure why the Vortixx wouldn't have any. Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Jaxus Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I don't remember any mention of machines that made new people, although I know Artakha can make Matoran if given the right resources by the Great Beings. The Red Star was supposed to keep the population stable by ensuring nobody dies, so that counters that idea. In fact, this does lead to the point that the Great Beings were possibly the most foolish creators in any setting, with their plan to fix a broken planet being a giant robot that would take 100000 years, was inhabited only my mechanical races that had no way to repopulate themselves and having the most laborious emergency reboot system imaginable encase the central intelligence got broken. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petewa Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I don't remember any mention of machines that made new people, although I know Artakha can make Matoran if given the right resources by the Great Beings. The Red Star was supposed to keep the population stable by ensuring nobody dies, so that counters that idea. In fact, this does lead to the point that the Great Beings were possibly the most foolish creators in any setting, with their plan to fix a broken planet being a giant robot that would take 100000 years, was inhabited only my mechanical races that had no way to repopulate themselves and having the most laborious emergency reboot system imaginable encase the central intelligence got broken.The Matoran reproduce via factories. Quote Mataru Nui, an Interactive Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesy Mac n Cheese Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 2006 good guy. Yeah, because Bad Guy 08 and Squid Launcher Function were so smart. 2 Quote My friend went to Po-Wahi and all I got was this lousy rock. Blue sea...a Ruki leaps...the sound of water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdroidser Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Here's the absolute truth in my opinion: The Great Beings were the most unintelligent. They were caught up in their experiments that they were unaware of the world around them until it's too late. However, if they weren't like that, the original G1 story wouldn't exist. -Tomdroidser Quote Featuring: Arkham Firefly/The LEGO Movie Quiz Now Entering: The Rise of DarkSaber Two personal thanks to Black Six for Proto Boost. (Expired) Topics: HF MOC BBC #69 Entry: Jaller Inika Rebuilt There is no such thing as perfection, except in being yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahkshi Lalonde Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Here's the absolute truth in my opinion: The Great Beings were the most unintelligent. They were caught up in their experiments that they were unaware of the world around them until it's too late. However, if they weren't like that, the original G1 story wouldn't exist. -Tomdroidser The Great Beings were dangerous know-it-alls, and the stuff they were messing with was even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkle Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 2006 good guy. Yeah, because Bad Guy 08 and Squid Launcher Function were so smart. Set =/= character 2 Quote I been away a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Votuko Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Why is it so fashionable to hate on the Great Beings? This thread is asking who the most unintelligent character is, not which highly intelligent characters made really clever things which themselves did something silly of their own accord. It's a bit unfair to blame some people for running a planet badly when they didn't even want to run a planet. Either the fault lies with the Element Lords for starting the Core War, or it lies with the general Spherus Magna population for being so poor at self-governance that they had to force a bunch of uninterested scientists to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Historian Iaredios Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Dirt? Air? Airweed? Gadunka? Well if the subject is about sentients, then I think Krekka and Reidak take the cake (not sure about Carapar). Quote A RUDE AWAKENING - A Spherus Magna redo | Tzais-Kuluu | Pushing Back The Tide | Last Words | Black Coronation | Blue Man Bound | Visions of Thasos ن We are all but grey specks in a dark complex before a single white light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesy Mac n Cheese Posted September 9, 2015 Author Share Posted September 9, 2015 Dirt? Air? Airweed? Gadunka? Well if the subject is about sentients, then I think Krekka and Reidak take the cake (not sure about Carapar). The problem with your Reidak theory is that the Shadowed One flat out stated that Reidak is actually quite intelligent. Quote My friend went to Po-Wahi and all I got was this lousy rock. Blue sea...a Ruki leaps...the sound of water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Historian Iaredios Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) Dirt? Air? Airweed? Gadunka? Well if the subject is about sentients, then I think Krekka and Reidak take the cake (not sure about Carapar). The problem with your Reidak theory is that the Shadowed One flat out stated that Reidak is actually quite intelligent. It's been a while since I've read a Bionicle book dude. I was just going off of memory (which apparently is hazy). Is it possible that he was being sarcastic? Edited September 10, 2015 by Iaredios Paerkenon Quote A RUDE AWAKENING - A Spherus Magna redo | Tzais-Kuluu | Pushing Back The Tide | Last Words | Black Coronation | Blue Man Bound | Visions of Thasos ن We are all but grey specks in a dark complex before a single white light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 1st Shadow Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Dirt? Air? Airweed? Gadunka? Well if the subject is about sentients, then I think Krekka and Reidak take the cake (not sure about Carapar). The problem with your Reidak theory is that the Shadowed One flat out stated that Reidak is actually quite intelligent. It's been a while since I've read a Bionicle book dude. I was just going off of memory (which apparently is hazy). Is it possible that he was being sarcastic? No, Reidak was actually quite capable. Not as sharp as Zaktan or Thok, for sure, but still far better than Krekka. On the subject of Carapar, he used to be far more intelligent, but after years of being hypnotized by Takadox, his psyche deteriorated a bit, leaving him just a bit slower than he once was. I wouldn't necessarily say he was unintelligent, all things considered. Quote ~Your friendly, neighborhood Shadow ~Credit for Avatar and Banner goes to NickonAquaMagna~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Historian Iaredios Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Dirt? Air? Airweed? Gadunka? Well if the subject is about sentients, then I think Krekka and Reidak take the cake (not sure about Carapar). The problem with your Reidak theory is that the Shadowed One flat out stated that Reidak is actually quite intelligent. It's been a while since I've read a Bionicle book dude. I was just going off of memory (which apparently is hazy). Is it possible that he was being sarcastic? No, Reidak was actually quite capable. Not as sharp as Zaktan or Thok, for sure, but still far better than Krekka. On the subject of Carapar, he used to be far more intelligent, but after years of being hypnotized by Takadox, his psyche deteriorated a bit, leaving him just a bit slower than he once was. I wouldn't necessarily say he was unintelligent, all things considered. I knew about Carapar, just not how slow he became prior to his demise. Thanks for the clarification. Quote A RUDE AWAKENING - A Spherus Magna redo | Tzais-Kuluu | Pushing Back The Tide | Last Words | Black Coronation | Blue Man Bound | Visions of Thasos ن We are all but grey specks in a dark complex before a single white light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Imrukii Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) Us, the answer is all of us, we're the fools. Every last one of us, but admitting it is the first step in becoming a fool no longer. Here's the absolute truth in my opinion: The Great Beings were the most unintelligent. They were caught up in their experiments that they were unaware of the world around them until it's too late. However, if they weren't like that, the original G1 story wouldn't exist. -Tomdroidser The Great Beings were dangerous know-it-alls, and the stuff they were messing with was even worse. Hey! like, The Thre.. "covers mouth" Nope! Not gonna say it!! No but seriously, they HAD to be dumb frankly, it's almost like some high entity gave them great power, and they just abused it! What if? Edited September 10, 2015 by Toa Imrukii Quote Quote: "Love has no fear, and no vengeance." | :i: | Andekas ⴳ A RUDE AWAKENING - A BIONICLE G1 Continuation and Video Game Project (ARTIST AND CONCEPTUALIST) | I am an ENFP, that is my Personality. Check Out Makuta Teridax: Reaper of Darkness | Check out my Taknuva Stars MOC | ⴳ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesy Mac n Cheese Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 Dirt? Air? Airweed? Gadunka? Well if the subject is about sentients, then I think Krekka and Reidak take the cake (not sure about Carapar). The problem with your Reidak theory is that the Shadowed One flat out stated that Reidak is actually quite intelligent. It's been a while since I've read a Bionicle book dude. I was just going off of memory (which apparently is hazy). Is it possible that he was being sarcastic? No, Reidak was actually quite capable. Not as sharp as Zaktan or Thok, for sure, but still far better than Krekka. On the subject of Carapar, he used to be far more intelligent, but after years of being hypnotized by Takadox, his psyche deteriorated a bit, leaving him just a bit slower than he once was. I wouldn't necessarily say he was unintelligent, all things considered. Although, Greg said somewhere in his LEGO Message Boards topic that Carapar was basically "dumb muscle" and that's the main reason he decided to kill him off, rather than the other characters present, who Greg thought were more interesting. Quote My friend went to Po-Wahi and all I got was this lousy rock. Blue sea...a Ruki leaps...the sound of water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 1st Shadow Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Although, Greg said somewhere in his LEGO Message Boards topic that Carapar was basically "dumb muscle" and that's the main reason he decided to kill him off, rather than the other characters present, who Greg thought were more interesting. "Dumb" as compared to the scholar Brutaka; the criminal genius Roodaka; the brilliant, yet insane, Spiriah; and the cunning, manipulative Takadox, whose powers had rotted Carapar's brain over the years. Basically, Carapar had been hypnotized so much, so often, that he had had very few opportunities to do much thinking for himself. That disuse caused him to lose his edge. Separate him from Takadox for long enough, and he would have reverted back to normal, in theory. However, Greg decided to kill him off before that could happen. 2 Quote ~Your friendly, neighborhood Shadow ~Credit for Avatar and Banner goes to NickonAquaMagna~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Editor Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Ignoring the fact that he could've become smarter again, doesn't that make Carapar (as he was just as he died) more or less one of the most unintelligent characters in the MU? I don't think anyone really proved themselves to be as dumb as he became - after his thousand years of being stared at by Takadox, I mean. He didn't seem all that smart compared to most of the other Barraki when they were fighting the Mahri. Edited September 13, 2015 by The Editor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 1st Shadow Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 He didn't seem all that smart compared to most of the other Barraki when they were fighting the Mahri.That was because we only saw him after being hypnotized for so long. 1 Quote ~Your friendly, neighborhood Shadow ~Credit for Avatar and Banner goes to NickonAquaMagna~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharnak the Bohrok Lord Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 It's been a while since I read the books, but I never got the impression that Carapar was unintelligent. He was no longer the tactician he used to be, sure, but he was far from levels of stupid that many people claim. Quote Remember Artwork III? It was the best of times. It was the worst of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahkshi Lalonde Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Although, Greg said somewhere in his LEGO Message Boards topic that Carapar was basically "dumb muscle" and that's the main reason he decided to kill him off, rather than the other characters present, who Greg thought were more interesting. Homestly i feel carapar is less flat-out "dumb muscle" and more of "muscle that has been hypnotically puppeted so many itmes for so long, his grip on his own mind has laxed a bit" and tbh, i still feel his death was unjustified, as Carapar had done nothing to make the death hold any meaning in the context it was given. as much as i love Takadox, his death really would have had more weight on that part of the story than Carapar's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Editor Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) I'm on mobile and can't really quote stuff, but... @T1 Shadow, saying that he was intelligent and could be intelligent again doesn't rule out how unintelligent he became and stayed for most of the story we witnessed. It's like saying professor X in the X-men films didn't count as a paraplegic because he wasn't one at first, and because he hypothetically could have gotten the use of his legs back. Also, in retrospect? I suppose he wasn't as dumb as Krekka was. At least Carapar didn't forget about his own capabilities. Edited September 14, 2015 by The Editor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Imrukii Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 The question was how have you not heard of him, not "have you not heard of him"He's so hardcore he doesn't need a Kanohi. AND he uses the limbs of others as his torso. He's so hardcore that he isn't even a matoran! He's a midget great being! 1 Quote Quote: "Love has no fear, and no vengeance." | :i: | Andekas ⴳ A RUDE AWAKENING - A BIONICLE G1 Continuation and Video Game Project (ARTIST AND CONCEPTUALIST) | I am an ENFP, that is my Personality. Check Out Makuta Teridax: Reaper of Darkness | Check out my Taknuva Stars MOC | ⴳ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grungemeister Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 The question was how have you not heard of him, not "have you not heard of him"He's so hardcore he doesn't need a Kanohi. AND he uses the limbs of others as his torso. He's so hardcore that he isn't even a matoran! He's a midget great being! He's so hardcore he killed a Rahkshi for its staff..then only took one end for himself! 1 Quote A RUDE AWAKENING - A Bionicle G1 continuation and video-game project(MUSIC COMPOSER) special thx to Inary the Gunhaver for my new username. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopekemaster Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Kalmah, for thinking he had successfully engineered the squid launcher.(Besides that, the obvious choice of Krekka, and a majority of the Toa (G1 and G2).) Quote My Writing Blog (more writing coming soon!) My Bionicle/LEGO Blog (defunct) Hyfudiar on Spotify (noise/drone/experimental music) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manducus Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) Probably Metus, imo. It's generally never a good idea to mess with a being who has god-like powers. Edited September 16, 2015 by Lord Commander Manducus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahkshi Lalonde Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Probably Metus, imo. It's generally never a good idea to mess with a being who has god-like powers. Also always talking/acting like you're a sneaky backstabbing double-crosser is pretty dumb if you're actually a sneaky, backstabbing, double-crosser. :b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuuli Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 The Masters on Okoto I find have a very low intelligence, though they will probably gain it later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xboxtravis Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yeah the G2 Toa are pretty much rookies still with a bad case of insomnia: give them time But yeah Krekka was pretty dumb, the movie makes it even worse. That Keetongu was smarter than Krekka (and Keetongu was known as a Rahi) gives evidence Krekka had problems. Quote All aboard the hype train! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastcage Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Guys, let's stop calling Krekka a moron...that's an insult to morons. Quote @THE_Blastcage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Clone Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Well, Krekka's about as dumb as dirt, so I'd have to go with...DIRT! Just kidding. Krekka for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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