If Hero Factory comes back, re-continuation or reboot?

[Lenny7092]

Hi, guys! I know that Hero Factory ended a year ago. If any of you guys remembered and feel sad about that, this topic may be able to cheer you up.

 

If Hero Factory were to come back somehow, would you want a re-continuation or a reboot? For me, I would love a re-continuation.

 

If the theme were to be re-continued, the theme would be where Episode 9: Breakout, Part 2 left off, as there is a cliffhanger where a mysterious and shadowed villain, whose arm looks like Von Nebula's, opened the Hero Factory plans stolen by Black Phantom. He laughs evilly as he seems to plan to create a Villain or Anti-Hero Factory, which would create evil versions of Hero Factory Heroes, according to Black Phantom and Mr. Makuro. These evil creations could be powered by a substance called Anti-Quaza, which is an evil version of the Heroes' good substance called Quaza.

The villain would be revealed as Von Nebula the whole time as he plans to lead an army of Anti-Heroes to destroy that Hero Factory and perhaps take over the galaxy and/or the universe. It is up to the Alpha 1 Team to stop them. The story would be finished after that. The End.

When we heard that Universal Studios is planning to get the rights for a live-action Hero Factory movie, this would be a perfect chance for the movie to happen. I got my ideas here a long time ago: http://www.bzpower.com/board/topic/15437-what-would-you-think-the-live-action-hero-factory-movie-should-look-like/?fromsearch=1

 

If HF would get a reboot instead, I could see that it would be reasonable because Hero Factory seems to be nothing but a memory and it ended a year ago. The reboot would satisfy new fans in the future. Hero Factory G2 could go along Bionicle G2.

For the story in the reboot, everything would start all over again, like how Spider-Man movies, Transformers TV shows, and Bionicle got rebooted. It would take place in a new universe, where HF is doing the same drill: fighting evil and crime and stop disasters. The Alpha 1 Team would return and fight either new villains, similar to Bionicle G2, or fighting the old ones from HF G1. The characters would look different in some ways.

The Alpha 1 Team would be like this:

1. Stormer, Bulk, and Stringer would be either median or large sets because they are veteran members of the team. Well, I would prefer Bulk looking Hulk-ish, too.

2. Furno, Surge, Breez, Nex, Evo, and Rocka would be either small or medium sets because they are rookies who would then get promoted into veterans throughout the story.

3. Nex, Evo, and Rocka would appear later in the story.

I would like to see Zib, Quadal, Mr. Makuro, perhaps Daniella Capricorn and her camera robot, and the G1 villains make a comeback. There would better character development and not-rushed storylines.

The media would be a new TV show, where each season has 10-13 episodes, comic and chapter books, and the movie.

For the sets, there would be a new building system.

 

Anyway, what do you guys? Re-continuation or reboot? If you choose one, how you would like it to be? Just asking. (Please don't say something like "I doubt any of this would happen" or something like that.)

[fishers64]

To be honest, when I saw that title, I laughed.

 

But HF - if HF comes back, I want a reboot. And not like an IFB reboot. Start over with Stormer and Von Nebula, and improve/remaster the whole thing into a smashing awesome story. 

[The 1st Shadow]

I agree with Fishers--a hard reboot with all the original characters would be nice, especially if they manage to take it as seriously as BIONICLE G1, developing people and places better.

[Bonkle]

Clean slate - give me good personalities instead of heroic heroes who heroically take down the evil villains who are so villainous and evil because they aren't heroic heroes.

 

Erase Rocka from existence.

 

Don't have Stormer and Furno in the spotlight all the time.

 

USE NEX AND STRINGER COME ON

 

Anything would be better than the trainwreck we got.

[Petewa]

Reboot, all the way, man.

 

Erase Rocka from existence.

But...he's so shiny...my precious...

[Voltex]

Hard reboot.

[fishers64]

Erase Rocka from existence.

 

USE NEX AND STRINGER COME ON

Aww, come on, I reaaaally wanted Stringer and Rocka to host a rock concert for Makuhero city, and have Nex do the lights. (And Surge dance like in Micheal Surge Jackson.)

 

And for pete's sake, get me the original Nathan Evo. 

Edited October 13, 2015 by fishers64

[Rooster Nui]

Hard reboot, with Rocka's personality changed as he was a little too much for me. Also, give consistency to the personalities of the characters throughout the duration of the line.

[masterchirox580]

If it were to come back I'd say a reboot with an actually connected storyline and focus on characters and locations. 

[Tahu3.0]

Reboot i mean the original left a lot of questions that i bet Lego simply does not want to answer.

[Toa of Ice - 1987]

I honestly don't think HF will be back, I always felt like Hero Factory was just a filler in the big gap that bionicle left behind in the construction figure line when it went on a break.

[Aanchir]

I honestly don't think HF will be back, I always felt like Hero Factory was just a filler in the big gap that bionicle left behind in the construction figure line when it went on a break.

As much as I respect Hero Factory, I kind of have to agree with this. It was not really exceptional or outstanding in the way Bionicle was.

 

If it did come back, I'd say it'd certainly be a reboot. Not that there's no room for new adventures in the Hero Factory universe already established, but there's no reason a Hero Factory revival should be beholden to continuity, characterization, and lore that had plenty of problems in the first place. A direct continuation would be pointless, because by the time Hero Factory came back, the part of its audience that remembered or cared about the loose ends from where it left off would be fairly insignificant.

[Lenny7092]

Wow, you guys prefer a reboot. I don't know what you mean "hard reboot" (can someone please explain it to me?), but okay.

 

A re-continuation would be nice, but I can see that it would be pointless, as Aanchir said above. I feel that people would either forget or get confused about HF's continuity. It's sad because there are some unresolved things, including the infamous cliffhangers. We never knew who was the guy with Von Nebula's arm, guy that sent the Brains to attack, a Jumper cocoon in the Heroes' Dropship, what happened to Stringer and Nex, the fates of other villains, or etc. I feel like it is like The Amazing Spider-Man movie series being cancelled with unresolved stuff. Bummer. Man, I wish someone, like Greg Farshtey in his "Chat with Greg" message board in the Lego website, would answer these questions.

 

A reboot, instead, would be nice, too. If that could happen, I would like it to start all over again, to the beginning. Other things I said in my starting post. The order for the story arcs would go like this:

1. Von Nebula (with each of first several episodes focusing the five median-set villains (XPlode throwing bombs), then Rotor (with a detachable helicopter blades), then villains joining forces, then Von Nebula, then VN leading the gang, and finally a season finale where the Alpha 1 Team defeats and sends the gang to jail after many times of unintentionally letting them escape. Keep The Enemy Within episode, and give Meltdown more screen time in an episode.)

2. Ordeal of Fire (Surge getting the 2.0 upgrade during the event this time)

3. Savage Planet

4. A new story theme based on an ocean (go with the same routine as the last two)

5. Ice theme (same as above)

6. Sky theme (same as above)

7. Desert theme (same as above)

8. Underground theme (same as above)

9. The Planet Earth (all nine Heroes)

10. Invasion From Below (with all nine Heroes involved, and also just make peace with the Jumper species without causing genocide on them this time.)

11. Breakout (Keep the two-episode special. Just add more episodes, where each of these episodes focusing on a certain other villain, like Thronraxx, XT4, Core Hunter, and old ones. Plus, involving all nine Heroes in the episodes this time, too. It would be cool if there is an episode showing how Black Phantom's group, The Legion of Darkness is formed.)

12. Brain Attack (with the evil Brain Maker revealed and released as a set this time. Plus, all nine Heroes involved, still. Add two more Brain-controlled monsters for Stringer and Nex to fight, too.)

13. A theme where the mysterious villain from Episode 9: Breakout, Part 2, is revealed to be Von Nebula, as he plans to create the evil Anti-Hero Factory as I said in my post.

 

Along the way, Evo would remain his Ordeal Of Fire self.

Bonkle, I don't know what's wrong with Rocka because you said" Erase him from existence", but he is like another Furno. I mean, after Furno is promoted as a veteran member of the Aphla 1 Team, he could help Rocka (along with Evo and Nex) get promoted as another veteran member. It's sort of like Stormer and Furno's relationship.

Breez would get a boyfriend, too. Adding more female Heroes would be a good idea, also.

For the voice actors, I would suggest bringing back the old ones from Episodes 1-10 if possible. If new people, I would hope they would do as good as the old ones.

It would be cool if the Heroes could ride animals, who was previously evil or mind-controlled, or just have them as allies. If there is anything unresolved this time, resolve them.

 

I know it's a lot, but Hero Factory G2 would be better than G1 if that could happen.

[Kaburimasu 米]

You can't reboot it . Bionicle was rebooted to dig out the basic parts of the original story and create something more simple for younger ages to enjoy . plus it lasted for 11 years so the story is old . hero factory was already simple enough so a reboot would be strange , unless they added different characters or something OR did a more interesting story and make it less childish . theres not much you can do with hero factory that will please Bionicle fans .

 

Now a continuation ? What else could you add that would give it more chapters and make it more interesting ? They would need like a new building system because the one they had before got old rather quickly for a looot of peeps . im actually quite suprised it worked for Bionicle's reboot .

Edited October 19, 2015 by Cashew2u

[Aanchir]

You can't reboot it . Bionicle was rebooted to dig out the basic parts of the original story and create something more simple for younger ages to enjoy . plus it lasted for 11 years so the story is old . hero factory was already simple enough so a reboot would be strange , unless they added different characters or something OR did a more interesting story and make it less childish . theres not much you can do with hero factory that will please Bionicle fans .

Pleasing Bionicle fans probably wouldn't be the objective of a Hero Factory reboot in the first place. And plenty of incredibly simplistic franchises have been rebooted over the years (My Little Pony being one of the obvious ones, the original 80s cartoon having had much less depth and lore than the current generation). A toy line being simple is by no means reason not to reboot it if you think the core concept is still relevant to today's kids.

 

However, I do agree that if LEGO decided they really needed a new constraction theme other than Bionicle, they'd probably try to create a whole new franchise rather than bringing back one like Hero Factory or Slizer/Throwbots that never really took off the way Bionicle did.

[Kaburimasu 米]

 

 

You can't reboot it . Bionicle was rebooted to dig out the basic parts of the original story and create something more simple for younger ages to enjoy . plus it lasted for 11 years so the story is old . hero factory was already simple enough so a reboot would be strange , unless they added different characters or something OR did a more interesting story and make it less childish . theres not much you can do with hero factory that will please Bionicle fans .

Pleasing Bionicle fans probably wouldn't be the objective of a Hero Factory reboot in the first place. And plenty of incredibly simplistic franchises have been rebooted over the years (My Little Pony being one of the obvious ones, the original 80s cartoon having had much less depth and lore than the current generation). A toy line being simple is by no means reason not to reboot it if you think the core concept is still relevant to today's kids.

 

However, I do agree that if LEGO decided they really needed a new constraction theme other than Bionicle, they'd probably try to create a whole new franchise rather than bringing back one like Hero Factory or Slizer/Throwbots that never really took off the way Bionicle did.

Referring to the first part of your comment , don't you think Hero Factory was created and had survived partially because of the bionicle era and us nostalgic fans ? thats how I always looked at it lol . plus , I always believed hero factory and bionicle , 2nd Gen , used the new building system and created simpler stories specifically for a younger audience since the story was confusing and the sets , like .... lewa's vehicle or the skopio for example , was not ideal for some kids building wise .

 

idk . maybe hero factory just wasnt popular enough for a reboot . R.I.P

[Protodite Karzahni]

I don't really see why we would need a hard reboot. The inherent quality of the concept was that it was so simple you were able to dive in and play without any real need for context. These are heroes and they're built to fight the bad guys. Lego can design some new characters and we're already set to go. 

 

Then again, that exact logic can be used to explain why we might as well have a hard reboot. There wasn't any rich lore that we risk losing, because the simple concept is an age-old story that we can retell a thousand times over and not get bored with so long as there are new details along the way. 

[Manducus]

Start everything over from scratch. Instead of giving the characters the hero archetype, I would like the creators to give them grayish personalities. Sort of like the characters in Watchmen.

[Hexann]

And for pete's sake, get me the original Nathan Evo. 

 

So, I'm not the only one who missed old Evo.

 

I think it could benefit from a hard reboot, the story could go some where, if it's slightly darker the way Bionicle was. More developed characters would be nice too.

[Xboxtravis]

Hmm... I really didn't follow the Hero Factory story that much. I got the first comics with Lego Club magazine, along with the personalized "Hero Factory Invites You..." booklet with Lego Club. But other than that, I know ziltch. I didn't even buy any sets... (I stopped buying constraction sets from 2007 until 2015 with this new Bionicle reboot). So yeah, reboot or continuation, I don't care either way.

 

The one thing though I wish Hero Factory had explored was the fact the Hero's were in the same galaxy as a futuristic Earth (or it was at least hinted.) That would have been the chance for some humanized constraction sets or maybe a Space Police crossover...  but its now a missed opportunity. 

[Cirkitree]

If HF were to be rebooted now, I don't think the whole 'upgrade' arc would be a thing, as it was the way to introduce us to the CCBS system in the sets. If they 'upgraded' now, there'd be nothing to really 'upgrade' too. Maybe taller forms, or accessorized armor, I dunno.

I'd definitely want the whole Von Nebula thing to get resolved. Perhaps not along the same vein as Kalhiki (of Deviantart)'s 'Dawn of Evil' comic, but at least with a fleshed-out story that doesn't leave us with more questions than answers.
And could you imagine how sick a Von Nebula titan set would look in CCBS? Especially considering the new, larger builds in certain sets (I'm looking at you, Grievous) as of late... I certainly can.

I would definitely prefer a reboot. New canon, an actual storyline to stick to... and give us a few more female heroes. I liked Breez and I think there could be others out there with potential. I mean, yeah, they're robots, but... still.

[Lenny7092]

If HF were to be rebooted now, I don't think the whole 'upgrade' arc would be a thing, as it was the way to introduce us to the CCBS system in the sets. If they 'upgraded' now, there'd be nothing to really 'upgrade' too. Maybe taller forms, or accessorized armor, I dunno.

 

I'd definitely want the whole Von Nebula thing to get resolved. Perhaps not along the same vein as Kalhiki (of Deviantart)'s 'Dawn of Evil' comic, but at least with a fleshed-out story that doesn't leave us with more questions than answers.

And could you imagine how sick a Von Nebula titan set would look in CCBS? Especially considering the new, larger builds in certain sets (I'm looking at you, Grievous) as of late... I certainly can.

 

I would definitely prefer a reboot. New canon, an actual storyline to stick to... and give us a few more female heroes. I liked Breez and I think there could be others out there with potential. I mean, yeah, they're robots, but... still.

I agree with you all the way.

I would imagine the 2010 villains to look in CCBS. They would epic that way. If the old villains would return in a reboot, I would think they would look sort of different, something like this:

1. The 2010 villains would look something like in CCBS.

2. XPlode would carry and throw bombs. Perhaps he would ride on a glider (kind of like the Green Goblin from Marvel ) that would be based on his vehicle in the Trials of Furno episode

3. Corroder would have longer limbs

4. Meltdown would have a left hand in his set, and his arms wouldn't look bent in his set, either.

5. Thunder wouldn't have bent arms in set and would include a left hand and the Nebula Gas Cannon in set, too.

6. Rotor's arms would not be bent and would have hands, either. His helicopter blades would be detachable to be used as a spinning, double-bladed weapon. His helmet would have eye holes in his set, too.

7. Vapor and Von Nebula's arms would be bendable. Vapor's helmet have eye holes, too.

8. Drilldozer and Nitroblast's arms would be even-looking by bone pieces. The "extra arms" that connect to their main arms are unnecessary. Without them, the main arms would articulate better.

9. The Witch Doctor's waist should be even-looking, too. His limbs would need some work on articulation, also.

10. Give the Scorpio eight legs and two arms.

11. Give Jawblade and Core Hunter longer forearms, so you can clip the Hero Cuffs on them easier.

12. Perhaps replace Voltix's yellow parts with blue ones (probably making look sort of like Electro from the movie called The Amazing Spider-Man 2 in 2014).

13. Give Thornraxx (more) legs (like, say, four more legs).

The villains would look better that if the reboot would happen like this.

[Aanchir]

If HF were to be rebooted now, I don't think the whole 'upgrade' arc would be a thing, as it was the way to introduce us to the CCBS system in the sets. If they 'upgraded' now, there'd be nothing to really 'upgrade' too. Maybe taller forms, or accessorized armor, I dunno.

Chances are that if Hero Factory came back in any form, the characters would still "upgrade". You have to be able to introduce new versions of the main characters somehow. However, it might be treated as a routine pre-mission refitting/costume change (like it pretty much was from "Savage Planet" onward) rather than as some dangerous and unprecedented new technology like it was in "Ordeal of Fire" when the LEGO Group had an entirely new building system to promote. Even in the theme's first year, mission-specific refittings were treated as standard operating procedure.

 

Seeing as the LEGO Group quickly abandoned the idea of individually numbered upgrades, there's a good chance they wouldn't go back to doing that, either.

[FallenCor]

I think it'd be interesting to see a large time-skip where older Heroes like Stormer are retired with Furno and Co. being seniors in charge of the latest team of rookies. Nice way to introduce new characters while allowing earlier fans to see what's become of the old guard. 

However, unless HF is picked back up within the next two years, a straight up reboot is pretty much inexorable.

[SynthMav]

Yeah i mean you make a character rocka who was okayish in 3.0 then 4.0 having freaking furno fanboy for him because hey i am in recon team which originally was used for kids to buy custom toys so yeah reboot defiantly