We are the great beings

[bohrokman]

I was reading up on the great beings and found an interesting parallel between the great beings and the LEGO fan. The bs01article says things like they obsess over their creation and love to create and find news ways to do so.(paraphrased) so my theory is that the bionicle fan and MOCist are the great beings of bionicle and they along with the bionicle team "made the bionicle universe" so in our universe we are like the great beings.( another theory I had was that the great beings are characters, or maybe just scientist from the D.C. Universe who made an alternate reality to test biomechanical life)

 

Please revise my theory because I can already tell it feels a bit broken in parts and I was having a hard time getting my thoughts to paper so to speak without not making any sense.

[Toa Imrukii]

 

(I'm so sorry)

 

 

Anyway, I thought it was confirmed a while back that the GB's were in fact, NOT Human. HOWEVER, That doesn't rule out the possibility of them being a derivative of, or a representation of Humans, or rather in this case the Fans. Since, it seems that they only live to create, yet don't tend to think about the product of their actions, this would seem to be a correlation of the Human will to create. Grant it, thats not to say that other hypothetical or potentially real species, Alien or Otherwise couldn't create. However, that doesn't completely rule out the possibility of this theories legitimacy to me, that the GB's are a representation of something else. Or indeed are just that, a representation. The GB's are certainly a mysterious case. (much like the case of Aliens in our world I should also say.)

Edited March 15, 2016 by Toa Imrukii

[SPIRIT]

I agree with @Toa Imrukii.  According to vague hints from Greg, the Great Beings are not biologically too different from the Glatorian's species, but it does seem clear that their creative personality was inspired by the people who created Bionicle and who enjoyed it.

[Rahkshi Lalonde]

The Great Beings are actually the Man Upstairs, and, thusly, all Will Ferrell.

 

this is canon.

[Xboxtravis]

The Great Beings are actually the Man Upstairs, and, thusly, all Will Ferrell.

 

this is canon.

Will Ferrell's TFOL years...

 

Actually I think the Great Beings are indeed closer to "human" than other Bionicle creatures. Art of them shows rather human shapes. I imagine their role in Bionicle is very similar to Halo's Forerunners: Creative? Yes. Powerful? Yes. Destroyed by their own hubris? Yes. Builders of ridiculously huge things? OH YES. Disapeered from the galaxy to return in force on a later date? Yes.

[fishers64]

The idea that the GBs were human was denounced multiple times by Greg. I shall attempt to find relevant quotes on the subject later to murder this undead myth and put it back in its untimely grave.

[Toa Imrukii]

The idea that the GBs were human was denounced multiple times by Greg. I shall attempt to find relevant quotes on the subject later to murder this undead myth and put it back in its untimely grave.

How savage.

[fishers64]

 

The idea that the GBs were human was denounced multiple times by Greg. I shall attempt to find relevant quotes on the subject later to murder this undead myth and put it back in its untimely grave.

How savage.

Sigh. Yeah, that qualifies as a bad joke. My bad, sorry.

[MrSciFiGuy]

I always equate the Great Beings to the Forerunners from Halo. Pragmatic builders that can be perceived as gods because of their advanced civilization.

[Alyska]

Greg has been known to lie about big story secrets when he has to avoid dropping a major spoiler (or very carefully tell a very misleading non-lie in some cases) Given how he was forbidden to reveal any info about the GBs, I'd put my money on the story team at least considering the possibility of human GBs at some stage.

 

Word of Greg is great for clarifying minor plot details, but his ability to reliably confirm or deny major plot elements through fan questions is basically zilch.

[Master Inika]

I think it's a funny joke theory, but it would honestly be really dumb if that's what they ended up being.

[Dallior]

That thing Toa Imruikii posted? The Jontron reaction? Yeah, that.

 

This is a groundbreaking theory that I totally support.

 

PROOF: The Makooti Intel ad from 2002

[Toa Imrukii]

I think it's a funny joke theory, but it would honestly be really dumb if that's what they ended up being.

That thing Toa Imruikii posted? The Jontron reaction? Yeah, that.

 

This is a groundbreaking theory that I totally support.

 

PROOF: The Makooti Intel ad from 2002

I wasn't joking. The reaction, yes. But what what I said after that, that wasn't a joke.

[The Hip Historian Iaredios]

As long as it is simply symbology and not just 'it all existed in imagination', I'm fine with it, and rather dig it. Otherwise, it'll be just like some 'it was all a dream' cattle dung that destroys stories.

[fishers64]

 

 

Feb 20 2008, 08:01 PM

 

20. My personal opinion is that the Great Beings are a metaphor for the Lego group. They can create different universes (themes) and can put and end to these if disaster ( plague, famine etc. For G.B. and Low sales for Lego) occur. Is this all that far from the truth?

ANSWER: I never saw it that way, but you can if you want to

 

Of course, that was 2008.

 

Still, the Great Beings forged a super-powerful mask and hid it in Voya Nui, built the robot and the Baterra as actual characters in the story, confirmed to exist on Bara Magna. Since we don't exist on the planet Bara Magna, I'm confident that this theory is invalid. 

[FallenCor]

From the quote Fishers posted, I highly doubt the Story Team had any sort of metaphor in mind for the GBs.

[Alyska]

As long as it is simply symbology and not just 'it all existed in imagination', I'm fine with it, and rather dig it. Otherwise, it'll be just like some 'it was all a dream' cattle dung that destroys stories.

I take it you didn't like The LEGO Movie, then?

 

But I agree that that would be kind of a downer in this context.

 

Then again, given the original idea of the Toa as personified medication or antibodies to treat Mata Nui's "illness," I wouldn't mind seeing an AU fic with an unwell human Mata Nui inventing these characters to help him understand his struggle and recovery. You could probably do some interesting stuff with that. Maybe an Inside Out-esque concept where he imagines hearing the characters talking things over in his head to help guide him though daily decisions.

[Toa Imrukii]

 

 

Feb 20 2008, 08:01 PM

 

20. My personal opinion is that the Great Beings are a metaphor for the Lego group. They can create different universes (themes) and can put and end to these if disaster ( plague, famine etc. For G.B. and Low sales for Lego) occur. Is this all that far from the truth?

 

ANSWER: I never saw it that way, but you can if you want to

 

Of course, that was 2008.

 

Still, the Great Beings forged a super-powerful mask and hid it in Voya Nui, built the robot and the Baterra as actual characters in the story, confirmed to exist on Bara Magna. Since we don't exist on the planet Bara Magna, I'm confident that this theory is invalid. 

 

 

That doesn't make much sense, the World of Spherus Magna may not be Earth, or even a Natural World, perhaps it is an artificial World created by the Great Beings, that may sound far fetched, but anything is possible when it comes to the relative unknown for BIONICLE, the World of Spherus Magna may just be that of a representation of our World, and that, we are destroying it with our own trivial conflicts and our greed. But like the Element Lords did in the story, and since we know that the Agori and Glatorian are at least in part similar to the Great Beings, and we know that the Element Lords were Agori and Glatorian...? (citation needed) who's to say if those beings, are or aren't representations of us too?

[Xeo]

I always thought it was implied that the Great Beings were loosely based on LEGO fans.

[Regitnui]

I like the idea that the Great Beings are based on Lego and bionicle fans in personality, but they're certainly not human by any means.

[Xboxtravis]

As I mentioned earlier; all the official artwork showing the Great Beings does seem to suggest a more "human-like" form; with clothing and human proportions. They don't seem to be exactly the same as the armoured/bio-mechanical inhabitants of the Bionicle worlds. http://biosector01.com/wiki/index.php/Great_Beings 

 

Still calling them human would be a strange correlation; unless Lego was planning some sort of Bionicle/Classic Space crossover... 

Edited March 17, 2016 by Xboxtravis

[The Hip Historian Iaredios]

 

As long as it is simply symbology and not just 'it all existed in imagination', I'm fine with it, and rather dig it. Otherwise, it'll be just like some 'it was all a dream' cattle dung that destroys stories.

I take it you didn't like The LEGO Movie, then?

 

But I agree that that would be kind of a downer in this context.

 

Then again, given the original idea of the Toa as personified medication or antibodies to treat Mata Nui's "illness," I wouldn't mind seeing an AU fic with an unwell human Mata Nui inventing these characters to help him understand his struggle and recovery. You could probably do some interesting stuff with that. Maybe an Inside Out-esque concept where he imagines hearing the characters talking things over in his head to help guide him though daily decisions.

 

Lego Movie did it right.  

[CyclonatorZ]

Uh, I sure hope we aren't the Great Beings, because as portrayed in canon, the "Great" Beings are - ahem - grade A donkey crevices. Considering all the various horrible things they did or were planning to do before they official story line was cut to an abrupt, merciful end, I'd rather not think of them as an allegory for MoCists or fan fiction writers - especially now that I'm getting back into building and writing myself.

[evil_jaga_genius]

Uh, I sure hope we aren't the Great Beings, because as portrayed in canon, the "Great" Beings are - ahem - grade A donkey crevices. Considering all the various horrible things they did or were planning to do before they official story line was cut to an abrupt, merciful end, I'd rather not think of them as an allegory for MoCists or fan fiction writers - especially now that I'm getting back into building and writing myself.

This man speaks the truth.

 

Though, given humanity being humanity and human nature being shot through with more holes than Swiss cheese, I wouldn't be surprised if the Great Beings were human or humanity's descendants.

[Regitnui]

 

 

Uh, I sure hope we aren't the Great Beings, because as portrayed in canon, the "Great" Beings are - ahem - grade A donkey crevices. Considering all the various horrible things they did or were planning to do before they official story line was cut to an abrupt, merciful end, I'd rather not think of them as an allegory for MoCists or fan fiction writers - especially now that I'm getting back into building and writing myself.

This man speaks the truth.

 

Though, given humanity being humanity and human nature being shot through with more holes than Swiss cheese, I wouldn't be surprised if the Great Beings were human or humanity's descendants.

Posthuman near-immortal robots?

 

We can take solace in the fact that the GBs aren't complete donkey orifices in at least one world. Vezon visited a place where they turned the Takua prototype into something to fix the world themselves rather than run a giant robot for a few millenia.

[You just lost the game]

I know you guys like your super meta theories, but this just takes the taco.

There isn't one lick of evidence that supports this claim.

 

As stated before, the Great Beings are said to be nearly Glatorian-like, and, IMO, solidifies the belief that they're biomechanical.

Plus, if the Great Beings were meant to represent us, why would the story writers take away some of their mystery by giving them names?

If they were meant to represent us, you'd think the Great Beings would be kept rather anonymous.

 

Finally, I also remember reading that the Great Beings were a small group. Not a large sprawling race of aliens.

Unfortunately, I can't pull up any links since I have no idea where I remember hearing this, so take it with a grain of salt.

Edited March 24, 2016 by You just lost the game

[The Hip Historian Iaredios]

I know you guys like your super meta theories, but this just takes the taco.

There isn't one lick of evidence that supports this claim.

 

As stated before, the Great Beings are said to be nearly Glatorian-like, and, IMO, solidifies the belief that they're biomechanical.

Plus, if the Great Beings were meant to represent us, why would the story writers take away some of their mystery by giving them names?

If they were meant to represent us, you'd think the Great Beings would be kept rather anonymous.

 

Finally, I also remember reading that the Great Beings were a small group. Not a large sprawling race of aliens.

Unfortunately, I can't pull up any links since I have no idea where I remember hearing this, so take it with a grain of salt.

In canon, all Spherus Magna native were originally purely organic, but became augmented and wear power armor, both designed by the Great Beings.So I imagine the agori are more like cyber-enhanced people while the Great Beings are more like transhumanist cyber-demigods in robes (I personally also give them masks like kanohi for cultural reasons of theirs, but whatever), not biomechanical; though I guess the Great Beings could have very well designed empirically superior bodies and somehow loaded their minds into said artificially constructed/grown bodies, but that goes into the body-spirit connection part of philosophy and I don't want to get into that stuff right now.

Edited March 24, 2016 by Iaredios the Hip Historian

[Electric Light Gunhaver]

Before I read up on just who the Great Beings were, I really did think about a connection between them and humans. But, this connection was almost completely irrelevant to the story and relies more on the physical aspects of Bionicle. I had always thought that the Great Beings were some sort of group of puppet masters for the grand scheme of the story, and were controlling minute parts of the plot, and that that control was the inhabitants' "destiny". Most of us on this website probably did end up playing with the toys that Lego sold and would create stories to act out with them. Using the characters to whom we grew accustomed to create stories, we became sort of like puppet masters for our own Bionicle, and that we were our own Great Beings for the characters we had. Although their role in the story was not the one I had imagined, the Great Beings did set the story of Bionicle up by creating the GSR and its inhabitants and let the characters within the Bionicle Universe take the reigns and let them take the path that they desired, much like we made our own stories. So, we were the Great Beings, but not the canonical ones, as they were actual characters in the story.

 

Humans may have not have actually played a part in the story of the Bionicle as grand creators, and at this point I do not believe they did, but that is most likely for the better. 

[fishers64]

Lol, when my neighbors are Angonce and Velika, then I will believe. 

 

Humans may have not have actually played a part in the story of the Bionicle as grand creators, and at this point I do not believe they did, but that is most likely for the better. 

XD. 

 

Yes, we are not in the story, but alas...we did write the thing. 

[Rahkshi Lalonde]

they are apt human analogues for sure, even if that was not the authorial intent, it still holds true. o: