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Hero cores? In story, the piece you're talking about is the cover to the capsule in their chest that contains a crystalline substance called "quaza," which gives artificial life and personality to the individual heroes. It provides no special powers or abilities.

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They're also a fairly obvious weakness in their construction; if they're destroyed, removed, or ever completely run out of energy, said Heroes either end up dying or having new cores transplanted into their bodies, and their previous A.I.s and personalities are completely lost forever in both cases.

Makes you look at Core Hunter in a whole new light. No wonder why they didn't put him in the Breakout episode; he effectively steals their souls.

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Hero cores? In story, the piece you're talking about is the cover to the capsule in their chest that contains a crystalline substance called "quaza," which gives artificial life and personality to the individual heroes. It provides no special powers or abilities.

I never kept up with Hero Factory's story, so I basically know nothing about it. I didn't know if it provided any special powers, yet rendered a hero weak if it was ever removed. Seemed like a sound assumption. Thank you for explaining it though!

 

Makes you look at Core Hunter in a whole new light. No wonder why they didn't put him in the Breakout episode; he effectively steals their souls.

I almost want to buy a Core Hunter set now. Haha.

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Hero cores? In story, the piece you're talking about is the cover to the capsule in their chest that contains a crystalline substance called "quaza," which gives artificial life and personality to the individual heroes. It provides no special powers or abilities.

I never kept up with Hero Factory's story, so I basically know nothing about it. I didn't know if it provided any special powers, yet rendered a hero weak if it was ever removed. Seemed like a sound assumption. Thank you for explaining it though!

 

 

Remove the core, and it won't necessarily kill the Hero, but will render them an emotionless, unoriginal machine. They'd lose their personality and everything that makes them who they are. In one episode, we saw what a "core-less" hero would look like, and they were basically just shamblers--zombie-like approach, capable of fighting, but they lacked any style or technique, making them easier to defeat. So, a Hero can function without a core, but they lose everything that makes them who and what they are.

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Actually, the Blank Heroes are the exception to the rule, as they contain no core, but still possess an alternative power source of some kind.

Completed Heroes, on the other hand, rely soley on their Quaza Cores to keep themselves up and running, so it's safe to assume that they end up replacing whatever was previously being used to fuel their bodies and basic A.I. functions sometime during the final stages of their construction. So if it's removed, destroyed, or completely runs out of juice, they are, in all likelihood, effectively going to die.

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So all of the more complex AI functions are stored within the Hero Core, Quaza, or whatever? Hypothetically speaking, would that mean a Hero's core could be placed within any machine and give it the same personality, knowledge, and abilities that it had in its previous body? Again, I'm not at all familiar with Hero Factory's story, so this is all new to me.

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Well, as stated before, Quaza Cores only power the Heroes and contain their A.I., so whatever physical attributes they used to possess would've probably only been specific to their previous body.

On the other hand, the Heroes do basically get stripped down to their skeleton each and every time they get upgraded, and the cores themselves would have to be removed every time they needed to be redesigned (the actual physical pieces on the sets represent this, as it's been stated that the ones on the 2.0 Heroes (and every other core by extension) were reconstructed to provide them with a 40% power increase over the 1.0 models), so it might be possible to put an older one inside a newer body, provided that they remain compatible with each other and it is still in working condition. There haven't been any cases of this present in the actual story, however, so this should definitely be taken with a grain of salt.

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Just curious if it was at all possible to do something like swapping bodies in the Hero Factory universe by swapping cores. This topic has left me with a few more questions than answers, but that's not a bad thing. Haha.

 

It probably is possible, cuz they basically destroy their old body when they get upgrades already, they are basically robots excluding their magic crystal techno-soul thing, which is what the core is.

 

(its roughly analogous to the heartlight from the Bionicle films, or the arc reactor in iron man, its a plug-shaped glowing thing that goes into their chest, and if you break it, they die!)

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So all of the more complex AI functions are stored within the Hero Core, Quaza, or whatever? Hypothetically speaking, would that mean a Hero's core could be placed within any machine and give it the same personality, knowledge, and abilities that it had in its previous body? Again, I'm not at all familiar with Hero Factory's story, so this is all new to me.

I think in the Hero Factory universe, Hero Factory heroes are the only modern machines designed to be powered by Quaza. I don't think it was ever strictly established whether the nature of its power was electrical, nuclear, or some type of tech wizardry, just that it's a naturally occurring but exceedingly rare energy resource, that it granted Hero Factory heroes their strength and identities, and that heroes' Quaza cores need to be periodically recharged.

 

Quaza was also used to power Witch Doctor's skull staff, and made up the spikes he used to control the wildlife of the planet Quatros (where Quaza was originally mined). But the Skull Staff was a mysterious ancient artifact, and I don't think even the top scientists at Hero Factory fully understood its powers.

 

It's also probable that some elements of heroes' personalities might come from other aspects of their design and programming, or as a natural extension of their experiences. For instance, Breez was designed to be able to communicate with any species in the world, and her affinity with nature was an extension of that. What heroes gain from their Quaza cores is less about their mental faculties, and more about their soul or spirit.

 

It's not established what exactly happened to the bodies and Quaza cores of the heroes who became Von Nebula and Core Hunter. For a while I kind of wanted to write a fanfic on the matter, about some black market mechanic in the outer reaches of space who helped Von Ness remove or bypass his Quaza core to give him a source of power that wasn't contingent on periodic recharging at the Hero Factory. I liked the idea of Von Ness effectively "selling his soul" to keep from having to return to Hero Factory and own up to his mistakes.

 

In any case, assuming Von Nebula no longer had an active Quaza core, it's clear that a hero's memories are not inherently tied to their core, since Von Ness's resentment of Stormer is what fueled Von Nebula's vendetta against the Hero Factory. But does having the same experiences and memories necessarily mean being the same person in spirit? It's an interesting question, and one that might explain why heroes who leave the Hero Factory might feel that their old names and identities no longer suit them.

 

If another machine were designed to be powered by Quaza, then maybe putting a hero core in it might grant it that hero's spirit. It's certainly amusing to imagine a fallen hero being reborn as a sentient hovercar, or something like that. And as for swapping characters' cores to swap their personalities, that also sounds like it could've made an interesting story. But it's hard to say for sure because those things never wound up happening in the story, and we didn't have anybody like Greg Farshtey answering random hypothetical questions that were never raised during the events of the story.

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Maybe Core Hunter's and Von Nebula's Hero Cores are just covered by their (new) armor? Granted, the latter's HC doesn't connect anywhere on the set and the former doesn't include it at all but the sets have never been 100% accurate to the story. The theory could be backed up by the fact that Core Hunter has a Superhero chestplate on top of a 'standard' Breakout Hero torso... I could also symbolize the fact that these two villain can't escape their origins no matter how much they try.

 

 But it's hard to say for sure because those things never wound up happening in the story, and we didn't have anybody like Greg Farshtey answering random hypothetical questions that were never raised during the events of the story.

I don't want to sound rude but that's certainly a good thing...

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And as for swapping characters' cores to swap their personalities, that also sounds like it could've made an interesting story. But it's hard to say for sure because those things never wound up happening in the story, and we didn't have anybody like Greg Farshtey answering random hypothetical questions that were never raised during the events of the story.

At the very least, these sorts of questions make for some fascinating subjects for theories, fan fictions, and even MOCs. This thread has given me some interesting ideas already, so I might actually consider looking more into Hero Factory's storyline in the future.

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