Manducus Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) So if Teridax, the big wig of the Makutas, was acting as Dume, then who was the fiery figure he was consulting with? It seems a bit odd that Teridax sounded a bit distressed when he was talking to the being in the fire. Edited November 6, 2016 by B0ss Manducus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 1st Shadow Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 In the novelization, the shadowy fire/mist is described as a sort of mirror that reflected Terry's true self, though not much more than that. Essentially, he was talking to himself. I would describe it as method acting--Teridax was playing both himself and Dume in private to ensure that his deception was up to snuff. As intelligent and powerful as he was, we know that Vakama was able to see through his illusions. In a city of a thousand Matoran, he had to make sure he didn't slip up and make people start to question him, as that could put the early stages of his Plan in jeopardy. 8 Quote ~Your friendly, neighborhood Shadow ~Credit for Avatar and Banner goes to NickonAquaMagna~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSciFiGuy Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 You know....huh. You're right. That made no sense in the movie. You could kinda see it as reporting to the Brotherhood, but then again the novelizations offers an excuse. 2 Quote Bionicle: ANP aims to create narrated versions of all the Bionicle books, with voice actors for each character, and music taken from various media to enhance the story. Check here if you're interested in voicing a character, and here for the chapters that've already been released!Formerly: Tahu Nuva 3.0Looking for a Bionicle Beanie. Black one with the symbol on it. Contact me if you are willing to sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_jaga_genius Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I'll just throw in here, there's a line from Lhikan where he says Teridax was 'sworn to protect the Matoran'. To me it implies Teridax wasn't really considered evil up to that point, so maybe Dume was collaborating with him. Maybe he was convinced some terrible tragedy was about to befall Metru Nui and was trying to get Terry's help to stop it. Then Teridax backstabs Dume, stuffs him in a stasis sphere, takes control of Metru Nui and the rest is history. 4 Quote Avatar by Nicholas Anderson (NickonAquaMagna)My blog: The Jaga's Nest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pohaturon Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I'll just throw in here, there's a line from Lhikan where he says Teridax was 'sworn to protect the Matoran'. To me it implies Teridax wasn't really considered evil up to that point, so maybe Dume was collaborating with him. Maybe he was convinced some terrible tragedy was about to befall Metru Nui and was trying to get Terry's help to stop it. Then Teridax backstabs Dume, stuffs him in a stasis sphere, takes control of Metru Nui and the rest is history.This is what I always figured. I thought that at that point Dume was still actually Dume. 1 Quote Stone rocks Model Designer at The LEGO Group. Former contributor at New Elementary. My MOCs can be found on Flickr and Instagram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manducus Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 That really cleared a lot of things up. A shame the movie never had a proper explanation as to why Dume Teridax was talking to Mental Teridax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Inika Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Canonically, yeah, it is a mirror, but the theory that it was Dume at that point working for the "greater good" is actually really interesting. That's probably what the filmmakers thought it was supposed to be. 1 Quote "You are an absolute in these uncertain times. Your past is forgotten, and your future is an empty book. You must find your own destiny, my brave adventurer." -- Turaga Nokama Click here to visit my library! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPIRIT Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 It does seem like they may have originally had another purpose for Dume. I mean, when they find his body just unceremoniously dumped in the Archives, they really just glaze over the fact that their city's beloved leader is in a coma. "Oh, we'll come back for him later... in a Flash movie on the website... that isn't actually released." My theory is that similar to the scene with the Lorak, they dropped a more complicated plotline where Dume was originally complicit with Makuta before being betrayed by him. There's no way to prove this, obviously, but it's the only way the scene with Dume talking to the big red eyes makes any sense. 3 Quote ~ The Jazziest JtO Spoof ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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