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Tough question. We don't have a frame of reference for when either of them came into being. Takua is the first Matoran, and Tren Krom was created to sustain the Matoran Universe while it was being built. The Matoran's first task was to build the robot universe they would inhabit. 

 

Let's try to line things up. Logic dictates that the Great Beings should have developed the Matoran to run the robot before confirming that they would be able to serve their purpose, and then begin working on the robot. Tren Krom was needed during the robot's construction, so most likely came afterwards.

 

If that logic follows, then Takua would be the older of the two.

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(Thought of answer before seeing the above answer)

 

I feel that Takua would be older than Tren Krom. Hate to say it, as it ruins his ancient monolithic feel, but what it logically looks like.   :glare: 

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I'd assume Takua was older. Tren Krom, as stated above, was designed to sustain the MU prior to the Mata-Nui program going live, and prior to the MU being fully constructed. Also said above was that the Matoran built the MU.

 

From a simple project management standpoint, logic would dictate that the prototype and then first iteration of the Matoran would be created first. Many elements of the massive MU that were likely built first, such as the outer shell and whatnot didn't need the oversight of Tren Krom, therefore work on these sections was likely underway before Tren Krom was created. That said, design and development of Tren Krom likely started around the time the Matoran prototype was in its final stages, and around the time Takua was created.

 

I do wonder what happened to all the prototype Matoran/Toa/Makuta/Rahi/Everything else. Maybe they were all powered down and locked up in some sort of secret archive or warehouse on Spherus Magna. If G1 hadn't concluded when it did, it would have been cool to visit such a place in the story.

 

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I'd assume Takua was older. Tren Krom, as stated above, was designed to sustain the MU prior to the Mata-Nui program going live, and prior to the MU being fully constructed. Also said above was that the Matoran built the MU.

 

From a simple project management standpoint, logic would dictate that the prototype and then first iteration of the Matoran would be created first. Many elements of the massive MU that were likely built first, such as the outer shell and whatnot didn't need the oversight of Tren Krom, therefore work on these sections was likely underway before Tren Krom was created. That said, design and development of Tren Krom likely started around the time the Matoran prototype was in its final stages, and around the time Takua was created.

 

I do wonder what happened to all the prototype Matoran/Toa/Makuta/Rahi/Everything else. Maybe they were all powered down and locked up in some sort of secret archive or warehouse on Spherus Magna. If G1 hadn't concluded when it did, it would have been cool to visit such a place in the story.

 

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Do we know that Takua was created when the Great Spirit Robot was being constructed? Or even when the Core Was going on? He could out-date Tren Krom by thousands of years and doesn't remember a thing about it.

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Do we know that Takua was created when the Great Spirit Robot was being constructed? Or even when the Core Was going on? He could out-date Tren Krom by thousands of years and doesn't remember a thing about it.

Matoran are made of metallic and organic protodermis, which is essentially a synthetic stable version of EP. As we know, the Core War was sparked by a dispute over what to do with the substance shortly after it was discovered. Therefore Takua could not have been built before the war.

 

There are conflicting statements on how long the war (and construction of the MN) actually lasted. Greg said the MU only took a few months to build. But BS01 claims that the Hand of Artakah operated successfully for over 200 years before being disbanded and succeeded by the Order of Mata Nui, which was already established when the Toa Mata were created. In either case, MN was launched only moments before the shattering but there is no telling how long the war was going before the GBs decided to build a giant robot. I doubt the GBs would start making workers before they new what they would actually need to do.

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There is a lot of logic for the Takua argument, but it's entirely possible that Tren Krom could have been created before construction began on the Great Spirit Robot-creating the power source before the working mechanism, if you catch my drift.

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