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#1 Offline Wiriamu

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Posted Feb 14 2017 - 12:23 AM

Anyone who follows my topics lately knows that I've been hot on the things that LEGO hasn't given us as yet. I've talked about it with Bionicle, Ninjago, and Star Wars; I may get into Hero Factory if I can think of more than a couple of ideas. But this topic is for everything else: all those lines Lego has produced that, for one reason or another, have had some pretty great set opportunities that have been overlooked.

 

First up on the list is my old friend Middle Earth, i.e. Lego The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. Some sets this line really could have used include (in my opinion):

 

  • War of the Last Alliance/Battle of Mount Doom-essentially the battle from the prologue of The Fellowship of the Ring, complete with Sauron, Second Age Elrond, Elendil, Gil-galad, Isildur, and various troops. Brief it may have been on screen, but certainly pivotal. You could even go all out and turn it into a Death Star-style playset of Mount Doom, including Sauron's forge.
  • Battle of Azanulbizar-rather like the previous set, this is a historical scene that seems like you could get a lot out of it. Apart from recreating a scene from the movie we could get such minifigures as Young Thorin, Azog, Young Balin, Thror, Young Dwalin, and some Dwarf Soldiers and Goblins to boot.
  • Troll Battle-because who couldn't use Bert, Tom, and William?
  • Dol Guldur-a scene where much of the action of The Hobbit Trilogy takes place-whether you like that fact or not-it seems like we could have gotten more out of it, including-potentially-a Thrain minifigure, a fiery Sauron as opposed to the Necromancer, Bolg, and perhaps ghostly versions of the Ringwraiths besides the Witch-King.
  • The Watcher in the Water-while it was only a brief antagonist in The Fellowship of the Ring, the Watcher is one beast of a set that I think would have made a nice addition to the line. It would also be a good place for another Boromir figure and maybe another Pippin.
  • Balrog Battle/The Endless Stair-with how awesome the Balrog is and how cool the video game version in The Lord of the Rings and Lego Dimensions is, it's pretty sad that we never got a physical version.
  • Edoras-a pretty sweet scene from The Two Towers that could include two versions of Theoden, Eowyn, Hama, another Wormtongue, maybe even Gamling and/or Theodred.
  • Oliphaunt Ambush-a chance for you to collect those gigantic beasts of which Samwise Gamgee is so fond, along with Haradrim, maybe some Easterlings, and Faramir and the Gondor Rangers.
  • Battle of Pelennor Fields-a great opportunity to get some missing minifigures and elements such as the Witch-King with helmet, Eowyn, a Fell Beast, Rohirrim Squire Merry, and even Citadel Guard Pippin and Faramir if Lego takes its usual license.
  • The Last Ship-a little tidbit from the finale of The Return of the King, allowing you to get your hands on an elderly Bilbo Baggins, Celeborn, Cirdan, and maybe a couple others.
  • Tom Bombadil-essentially just a Revan-style polybag, since I don't know where you could fit him in with a set given that they're based on the films that he doesn't appear in, unless you do a minifigure line or something. Hm, that could actually be cool-throw in Rosie Cotton, Sauron, all the others we didn't get in sets...

 

...honestly, that's the main theme I can think of that doesn't have all the sets I would have wanted to see, but I'm sure there are more out there.


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Posted Feb 19 2017 - 09:08 AM

I have thought for awhile that what the final Hobbit film really needed was battle packs. The actual "Battle of the Five Armies" set was okay, and had some nice Dale architecture, but wasn't nearly big enough to stage any kind of proper battle. Instead of a single ~$50 set, we really should have had a $10 battle pack for each army. Mirkwood Elves, Men of Laketown (both with an eagle), Iron Hills Dwarves (with a cavalry goat), Dol Gildur Orcs (featuring one or two warg riders), and Gundabad Orcs (along with a few war bats)--I would have bought scads of those.
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Posted Feb 19 2017 - 11:22 PM

I have thought for awhile that what the final Hobbit film really needed was battle packs. The actual "Battle of the Five Armies" set was okay, and had some nice Dale architecture, but wasn't nearly big enough to stage any kind of proper battle. Instead of a single ~$50 set, we really should have had a $10 battle pack for each army. Mirkwood Elves, Men of Laketown (both with an eagle), Iron Hills Dwarves (with a cavalry goat), Dol Gildur Orcs (featuring one or two warg riders), and Gundabad Orcs (along with a few war bats)--I would have bought scads of those.

Ooh, those are some good ideas-battle packs would have been good for The Lord of the Rings as well for Haradrim, Easterlings, Lothlorien Elves, Citadel Guards, and others.

 

Barad-dur would be another pretty sweet set and potentially another opportunity to get a Sauron figure. If Lego really wanted to branch out and do book-inspired scenes in addition to film inspired, they could also do a Tom Bombadil set complete with Old Man Willow and some Barrow-wights. Lego Harry Potter could use a little more love as well, like a Hog's Head set so we could get Aberforth Dumbledore and a Death Eater or two without minifigures. While I'm not all that interested in Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, I'm also rather surprised that Lego's only really done a couple Dimensions elements based on it. Dimensions honestly has a few themes attached to it-probably not all, but a few-that would make for some interesting sets, such as the Wizard of Oz or some additional Scooby-Doo sets.


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Posted Feb 20 2017 - 08:03 AM

I agree full heartedly. There were rumors floating around (I can't remember where I saw them maybe bricklink or something along those lines) that hinted at future LotR sets around the time Orthanc came out) that suggested a Witch-king/Eowyn set, Amon-Hen which had Boromir, Pippin and more Uruks, and I think there was supposed to be one or two more that I cannot remember, but apparently it was all speculation and not fact... unless they were planning to release those sets and decided not to with the soon appearance of the Hobbit. :???:


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Posted Feb 25 2017 - 06:59 PM

I agree full heartedly. There were rumors floating around (I can't remember where I saw them maybe bricklink or something along those lines) that hinted at future LotR sets around the time Orthanc came out) that suggested a Witch-king/Eowyn set, Amon-Hen which had Boromir, Pippin and more Uruks, and I think there was supposed to be one or two more that I cannot remember, but apparently it was all speculation and not fact... unless they were planning to release those sets and decided not to with the soon appearance of the Hobbit. :???:

Alas, that would have been amazing. A pity that Lego did not see fit to produce them.


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Posted Feb 26 2017 - 10:01 AM

 

I agree full heartedly. There were rumors floating around (I can't remember where I saw them maybe bricklink or something along those lines) that hinted at future LotR sets around the time Orthanc came out) that suggested a Witch-king/Eowyn set, Amon-Hen which had Boromir, Pippin and more Uruks, and I think there was supposed to be one or two more that I cannot remember, but apparently it was all speculation and not fact... unless they were planning to release those sets and decided not to with the soon appearance of the Hobbit. :???:

Alas, that would have been amazing. A pity that Lego did not see fit to produce them.

 

Unfortunately, all themes are subject to the whims of the market. I get the impression that Lord of the Rings was generally less popular among kids than themes like Star Wars that are based on franchises marketed more directly toward them. And while AFOLs may make up some of the difference, there's a reason why sets aimed specifically at them are fewer and farther between—they're just a smaller market in general, and can't necessarily sustain a huge range of sets to the same degree.

 

Also, unlike Star Wars, there really wasn't any mechanism to sustain the theme beyond the release of the last Hobbit movie, since there's no ongoing television media or anything like that (a factor that similarly limited the lifespan of themes like Indiana Jones and Harry Potter). Ultimately, while a certain amount of sales can be eked out of classic movies and media, without an infusion of new media and the new fans that accompany it, it's hard to keep a theme going for very long.


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Posted Feb 27 2017 - 07:30 PM


I agree full heartedly. There were rumors floating around (I can't remember where I saw them maybe bricklink or something along those lines) that hinted at future LotR sets around the time Orthanc came out) that suggested a Witch-king/Eowyn set, Amon-Hen which had Boromir, Pippin and more Uruks, and I think there was supposed to be one or two more that I cannot remember, but apparently it was all speculation and not fact... unless they were planning to release those sets and decided not to with the soon appearance of the Hobbit. :???:

Alas, that would have been amazing. A pity that Lego did not see fit to produce them.

Unfortunately, all themes are subject to the whims of the market. I get the impression that Lord of the Rings was generally less popular among kids than themes like Star Wars that are based on franchises marketed more directly toward them. And while AFOLs may make up some of the difference, there's a reason why sets aimed specifically at them are fewer and farther between—they're just a smaller market in general, and can't necessarily sustain a huge range of sets to the same degree.

Also, unlike Star Wars, there really wasn't any mechanism to sustain the theme beyond the release of the last Hobbit movie, since there's no ongoing television media or anything like that (a factor that similarly limited the lifespan of themes like Indiana Jones and Harry Potter). Ultimately, while a certain amount of sales can be eked out of classic movies and media, without an infusion of new media and the new fans that accompany it, it's hard to keep a theme going for very long.

Sad but true, my friend.

EDIT: Especially when Disney produces merchandise for properties that haven't had new stuff in ages. Also, while Star Wars does continue to produce new media, you'd think there'd be a market for Middle Earth stuff when they continue to release sets based on the Prequel films and The Clone Wars.


Is it really double posting if it's been a month since anyone else did anything?

I'm not the biggest fan of Lego Dimensions-don't like all the properties involved and whatnot-but after seeing this:



I feel that they are missing a big opportunity by not having a line of sets-actual sets, not just the little "fun packs"-based on the game. A Dalek flying saucer with a Sauron minifigure on top? Yes please!

And that's only the tip of the iceberg. The Tri, the Anacondrai Serpent, the Balrog (with or without Riddler)-so many awesome opportunities...that Lego is failing to take advantage of.

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