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Fair enough. Though, given that we have an odd number of characters, at least one person will need to take a canon hunter. Feel free to yell if you want that to be you, and have ideas for which one. Also yell if you have preferences for which PC to fight, and I'll take those into account.

 

I'll allow some time for people to get back to me before I go ahead and run the numbers, but it shouldn't be more than a day. Hopefully, that will also be enough time to get the last few PCs through the maze.

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i think nato and i may have whisper and spirit fight

 

possibly

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I was down for having Idgaddiy fight Zaryna, but if we're doing a random select, then I'll go with that too.

Is this a package deal that includes Skondh, or do you mean just Idgaddiy?

 

(I keep reading them as Igdaddy and Stronkh, and I apologize if I call them such anytime in the future. XD )

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Just Idgaddiy.  Skondh can fight someone else; it'd be an unfair advantage if I used two characters to fight your one.

Plus, I'd like to have Idgaddiy's so far undefined hostility toward Zaryna play out and develop a bit in the combat arena.  If she wins, then he'll have a good reason to dislike her.

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Ok, here's a preliminary lineup. In no particular order...

 

Exile v Bug-Eye

Specialist v Mimic

Whisper v Spirit

Bruiser v Shadowboxer

Commander v Valkyrie

Hijack v Mirror

Ghost v Huntsman

Sting v Reaver

Metronome v Psyker

 

It wasn't totally random, because I wanted to avoid particularly uneven match-ups. Changes are still possible.


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Nilauhk did not assume whom her opponent was and so approached nobody, for the time being. Instead, she simply scanned the other trainees from behind her visor, guessing to herself who was who.

 

 

"Which one is Metronome?"

 
OK, looks like I messed up a little on this one.
 
Can we just assume that Nidhiki pointed to each character as their name was called and waved them into the arena? That way we can skip the awkward "who is who?" posts and get on with the more interesting stuff. 

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Nidhika did pretty specifically say...  

 

"You will stay within the arena until I tell you to come out, and you will interact only with your assigned opponent, and not interfere in any other matches."


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Nice job on the jam, Monado Girl and Nato the Traveler.

 

Also, to clarify for other players, we'll say that the jam posts happened right before Kohu fogged up the north end.


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OOC: Ghidora, I'm a bit confused by your last post. Let me get this straight: Lukasi has just avoided the blast I mentioned in my post, charged forwards, thrown his sword at Psyker, turned into sand, moved forwards as sand, flowed under his legs, then reformed to punch him in the back of the head...in a time frame short enough for Psyker to not be able to intercede?

 

So, so far he's tried to jump on Votadox, then landed, turned around, dodged a bolt (despite his height) and avoided its blast in the space of a second. And now his latest attack: to put it lightly, it must be insanely fast for Votadox not to have time to respond. But this is a character described as clumsy in its profile.

 

There's also the question of why the sword is suddenly so big that Votadox using it is "out of the question" whereas before it was supposed to bait Votadox into moving towards it and using it. But that issue seems relatively small. My main concern is how on Earth Lukasi can move so fast that he can A) land, turn, dodge and charge forward in a second and B) how he can run forwards, throw the suddenly giant sword, dissolve, resolve and punch Votadox in the back of the head so quickly that he can't respond.

Try not to OOC-only post in the IC topic.

 

Firstly, Lukasi didn't throw his blade at Psyker. Check the post yourself; it was 'directly up.' And unless Psyker has suddenly learned to fly, it's not going to be flying into him unless he moves under it. Lukasi also didn't charge forwards - he was rather violently thrown by Psyker's attack, which you said was for the most part positioned behind him. Unless I've somehow miscalculated what the weapon does, in which case my apologies.

 

On the issue of the sword, he's not going to be using anything weapon-wise on the scale of Votadox's species. The weapon is twice the natural size that one would be for Votadox, since it's scaled to Lukasi's size, so using it as a khopesh is intended is absolutely out-of-the-question. The baiting was only to see if Votadox was foolhearty enough to try and remove Lukasi of it.

 

Now, on the matter of speed, Metronome had quite the bit of momentum on his side thanks to the air attack. Dissolving would be easy and simple, 'raining all over Votadox', not sliding in between his legs like a blob of butter. And as you saw with the lunge attack from the start of the fight, reforming isn't hard either. The whole process would have taken less that a second.

 

And finally, on the matter of 'clumsiness', you're looking at the one part in his profile showing he's clumsy with metalwork and assuming that applies to his every attribute? I'm sorry, Sil, but I don't see the problem.

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Try not to OOC-only post in the IC topic.

 

Well, I couldn't include an IC as I found issue with your post, and posting in this topic seemed redundant to me when it specifically concerned our interaction.

 

Firstly, Lukasi didn't throw his blade at Psyker.

 

Your post says "Snapping his blade into the air- directly up- Lukasi splashed into sand once again, raining all over Votadox". So he clearly let go of the blade, unless you're contradicting his profile, which says "he cannot deform and reform parts of his body" and "he cannot move while in this state". Your post implied the sword was aimed for Psyker, yet now you're claiming it wasn't. So unless you were hoping for Psyker to try and catch the sword (which contradicts the fact that it is "huge" and Psyker using it is "out of the question") I don't really see the point of the move at all.

 

 

it's not going to be flying into him unless he moves under it.

 

This contradicts your post: as already mentioned, you said Lukasi moved the blade "directly up" - this would mean it was already over Psyker, unless you're implying he just threw it away in a random direction.

 

 

Lukasi also didn't charge forwards - he was rather violently thrown by Psyker's attack

 

This isn't mentioned in your post at all, unless "he then decided to thrust him violently forwards" was referring to Lukasi being pushed. But it sounds more like you're saying Lukasi is the one doing the pushing: especially since the paragraph up until that point was talking about Psyker from Lukasi's perspective.

 

 

Unless I've somehow miscalculated what the weapon does

 

Yes: it's more a swirling, multi-directional attack than an outwards detonation ("cloud of [...] hammering wind").

 

The baiting was only to see if Votadox was foolhearty enough to try and remove Lukasi of it.

 

This contradicts your post: it says "a tempting offer of a weapon", as well as there being no mention of the weapon's size. It seems like the size description was only added when it was convenient for Lukasi.

 

 

Metronome had quite the bit of momentum on his side thanks to the air attack

 

Even if the weapon worked like this, Lukasi wouldn't have been able to anticipate the effect of the weapon and use its momentum to his advantage. Even a normal explosion would just injure you, not fling you in whatever direction you chose. As it is, the weapon works as described above and so wouldn't even have an effect like this. But again, there's no mention of this as a reason for his speed in your post.

 

Dissolving would be easy and simple, 'raining all over Votadox', not sliding in between his legs like a blob of butter.

 

Exactly, you said "raining", not 'moving through'. From Lukasi's profile: "he cannot move while in this state". Momentum alone wouldn't be enough to accurately carry him through, especially not with two shape changes and starting from a standstill.

 

The whole process would have taken less that a second.

 

Here's a second. Let's recap: in his first second, Lukasi landed on the ground, turned around and simultaneously ducked to dodge what is effectively a bullet and avoid its blast. The jump should have been impossible for a being who is described as finding it hard to pick up a toa  ("not with the greatest of ease"), not to mention the strange ability to drastically change direction in mid air. But I was willing to let it slide until I heard it had only taken one second to spin and dodge.

 

Then, in less than a second, Lukasi ran forwards, threw his sword (or dropped it upwards (?)), dissolved into sand, somehow moved over or through Psyker, reformed and finally, after standing upright, turned around and punched Psyker in the back of the  head. Side note: even if you were going by the blast carrying Lukasi forwards, that's in direct contradiction to him being able to instantly stop, turn and punch - so your explanation makes no sense. This is simply impossible, especially for a being of Lukasi's size.

 

And finally, on the matter of 'clumsiness', you're looking at the one part in his profile showing he's clumsy with metalwork and assuming that applies to his every attribute?

 

His profile says "he's clumsy at anything aside from crude repairs" in regards to metalwork: it's a fair assumption that this is a clumsy character, unless you're implying that he's clumsy when doing metalwork, but extremely dexterous in every other occupation. But this is a moot point anyway. I have my doubts that even the most agile of characters could pull off what you're describing, and given Lukasi's size I'd say he's far from the most agile of characters.

 

I'm sorry, Sil, but I don't see the problem.

 

The problem is this: Lukasi is unreasonably fast and acrobatic, disregards momentum or lack thereof, and contradicts his profile and earlier posts as him. He completed an action in less than a second that should have taken multiple seconds and multiple posts. Psyker has a Mask of Respulsion, and would have easily repelled Lukasi. As it is, your post seems to be dangerously close to an autohit.

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And actually, all this conversation is best settled as a PM conversation.

 

Personally, I'd prefer if you two took it there, and if you can't resolve the matter there then bring a game staffer into it, but we don't have to see it play out here. 


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Hey yo how's it going, buddy. Couple things:

 

1) This would be best as a personal message as it's meant for a single member, and

2) This is the profiles—not discussion—topic, anyway  :P

 

 

Take your own advice there, mate. :P

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Oh I'm guilty as charged with no defense to be mounted, though even a volunteer lifeguard has to get wet to perform a rescue from time to time! XD

 

(Sidenote: Although I plead guilty, you will see the evidence shows I am far too pretty to go to jail)

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Okay, so before the rather off-topic discussion escalates any further...

 

I wonder how many people Hijack is going to disturb in many ways simply by existing. You think moving is bad, see him fight or eat.

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I'm waiting for things to move forward. Any interactions I engage in right now would be superficial at best and probably just get delayed by plot, or so I'd like to think.


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To those who are waiting on me - I'm sorry for taking so long. Real life has struck again, unfortunately.

 

That said, I hope to have a bunch of free time tomorrow, enough to put in a burst of RP and clear the backlog. Thank you for your patience with this.


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Okay, quick announcement time:

 

Both Lorax and I will be away until after easter, so try not to burn the place down while we're gone. When we return, Nidhiki and co. will also be coming back with their assessments and skills to work on for each of the recruits.

 

That's all for now, have fun.


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