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Hi, guys! :) Celebrating Bionicle's 16th anniversary this month (Link: http://www.bzpower.com/board/topic/24926-happy-sweet-16-bionicle-d/ )? Well, we know that Bionicle isn't here this year and a planned third year for G2 was cancelled, along with the entire G2.:( We are hoping that a G3 would come. If you guys don't want G3 to be badly-received like G2, I would say this: Lego would need time to make a G3 that would much better than G2 and would be as good as or better than G1. It would be like Spider-Man: Homecoming this year for how it is well-received compared to Spider-Man movies in 2002-2007 (aka Spider-Man G1 with well-received reviews) and 2012-2014 (called The Amazing Spider-Man, aka Spider-Man G2, with mixed reviews, and is very similar to how Bionicle G2 is like: http://www.bzpower.com/board/topic/23229-bionicle-g2-and-the-amazing-spider-man-movies-are-alike/ ). Let's hope that Bionicle G3 is like Spider-Man: Homecoming (aka Spider-Man G3).

 

Lego should know that the cancellation of Bionicle G2 may have upset Bionicle fans, like us, and there is no new well-received constraction line with an original story by Lego (Hero Factory is an example of that constraction line, but it has mixed reviews, I believe). We may need that kind of Lego line to satisfy ourselves, don't we? I feel that I don't have a hobby of building constraction sets this year because of the lack of the constraction line. Without that line, I feel that I have no purpose in buying constraction sets this year (Anyone feel that way, too?).:(

 

Well, in order for G3 to be successful and Lego to make us happy that we would a constraction line with an original story by Lego, I made a hopefully-brilliant idea that I would like Lego to do for us: re-mastering Bionicle G1.

 

When I think of re-mastering, I look at trailers about a Sonic the Hedgehog game called Sonic Mania and Sonic Generations. They improved the graphics from the first few games in the early 1990's. They never rebooted the story, they just improve the originals' looks while re-telling the story (Well, at least Sonic Mania is re-using levels from the originals, like the Green Hill zone from the first Sonic game in 1991). The same goes to Samurai Jack's Season 5 in this year, when they improved the show's animation while there is one episode where some stories from Seasons 1-4 are re-told with the new animation (Season 5 is for teenagers rather than kids, guys, but not too bad.).

 

For the remastering in Bionicle G1, this would be a good idea if Lego would take a long time making a well-received G3 while we are waiting for a new constraction line with an original story by Lego. Re-mastering Bionicle G1 would mean re-telling the G1 story while improving the G1 sets into new better versions of themselves when the G3 is in development and before G3 would be made. For example, the Toa Mata's limbs are divided into two pieces literally, necks that can function like normal necks, having regular five-fingered hands, even-looking arms, and twisting waists. Lego would use new and old molds of the pieces to make this happen. There could be some new things for G1, like a TV show and/or a video game or more to better re-tell it to new Bionicle fans. CCBS would work, but it's very different from G1's building systems. But still, it might work in modernizing the G1 sets. Plus, it would be a good birthday gift for Bionicle's 16th anniversary.:)

Anyway, think how Sonic Boom, a Sonic the Hedgehog TV show and spin-off series, happened in 2014-now when Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces, coming this year, are in development since Sonic Lost World in 2013. I know that Sonic Boom is not the best thing in the Sonic franchise, but it's a filler to keep patient fans happy before releasing this year's new games.

 

If you need a stronger example, try watching YouTube videos that compare and contract the old versions of the first few Crash Bandicoot games in the late 1990's and the new re-mastered versions of them in a new game called Crash Bandicoot N-Sane Trilogy, which came out a week ago. I am not interested on the Crash Bandicoot franchise, but I think it best shows what I mean. Basically, the new game re-tells the old stories from the old games while improving the animation in them. That's also what I meant.

I would like the re-mastering of Bionicle G1 to happen at least 2018 or next year or so. Lego wouldn't have to re-tell all of the G1 years before G3 would begin. The re-mastering would just be a filler for Bionicle's new absent years after G2, like how Hero Factory did for Bionicle after Bionicle G1. Plus, it may help bring the golden age of constraction again, like Bionicle G1 had, so we wouldn't be sad about the dark age/Great Depression of constraction that we are having this year (Link: http://www.bzpower.com/board/topic/24467-the-dark-agegreat-depression-of-constraction/ ).:)

 

So, there. What do you think, guys? Think it would be an excellent idea? Well, we do love Bionicle, after all, and it's our favorite constraction line, after all.:)

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NO.

 

Not anything against you personally, but I don't like this idea for several reasons.

 

Modern pop culture is far too obsessed with nostalgia. Everything is a remake, a reboot, or a sequel. The Force Awakens. Blade Runner 2047. The cookie cutter MCU sequels. Bionicle G2 was even a "remastering" so to speak. Nothing is original in pop culture anymore.

 

BIONICLE was good to start with because it bucked the trend. And it can do that again. I would honestly rather see each iteration of BIONICLE be totally different, like each generation of Final Fantasy or Yu-Gi-Oh!, where the themes and the premises are similar, but the characters and settings are different. Shake things up, but retain the few things that definitively make something BIONICLE (i.e. Masks of Power, Elemental Powers, the meshing of machine and magic, a story on an epic scale...)

 

No 'remastering", no nostalgia tripping. If BIONICLE is to ever come back, it needs to be only marginally tied to the old series, but ultimately needs to be something completely new to both newcomers and long-time fans.

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I will be the first to say that I got excited about G2 because of nostalgia for G1. That's because I love G1 and the memories I have with it. But I don't want to be fed the same story from G1 in a gilded package. Going back to G1 would nostalgic, but nostalgia is like a donut. It's sweet and tastes good for a while. Then you feel sick and it doesn't satisfy actual hunger or give you long lasting energy. Basing something completely off of nostalgia just seems like it is doomed to fail. Like Takametru007 said, one of the good aspects of G2 was that it made changes and wasn't just a retelling of 2001. Retelling the same story over and over again gets boring, doesn't it?

 

Also, Bionicle is not a video game. It does not need "remastering". It's not inaccessible and it's certainly not challenging to modify your old sets. Going back to G1 would feel like selling out to me. "Oh, well, G2 failed... guess we can only do one thing with Bionicle." If it must be remastered, let the fans do it. Lego has more important things to do than to do the same thing over again. I kinda wish Lego would stop remaking the same Lego Star Wars sets, though.

 

Even by 2018, it will have only two years since the end of G2. That's a little too quick for any news of Bionicle. Let the poor beast sleep.


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I have said this on multiple topics.

There being no new constraction sets is a good sign.

It means that LEGO is putting time and effort into something big. Big enought to allow a time gap between it and G2.

 

If it's G3 that's another story.

It could be G3 or a new story all together.

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I personally think it was a mistake to cancel Bionicle G1 in the first place. 

 

Lego could have could have continued the story on Spherus Magna, with new villains (Makuta was killed), new heroes and characters, thus rebooting the franchise for new fans but also keeping it linked and within the storyline of 2001 - 2010 for older fans. It wouldn't be necessary to learn the huge backstory for you to understand it properly like with the later years of G1 Bionicle, but at the same time you could if you wanted to and it might enhance your experience of the reboot on Spherus Magna.

 

It would probably sell far better than G2 did because Bionicle would still be fresh in people's minds. Many fans moved on from Bionicle between 2010 and 2015 and therefore did not come back and buy the sets when it was rebooted as Gen 2.

 

As for the topic, I have to say no because with all rebooted franchises, (e.g: Transformers) the original is always the best and all the reboot does is put a bad taste in the mouths of the fans.

 

A reboot of Bionicle would never be able to capture the original magic that G1 did.

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Frankly, I fail to see any appeal for a Bionicle in which we already knew everything that would happen and every character that would be released. And I can't imagine even newcomers to the franchise would find that anywhere near as appealing as experiencing G1 for the first time would be for us.

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Egh, I have to echo the sentiments of everyone else. I don't get whom a "re-master" would be marketed towards other than die-hard G1 fans who are a very small group. The story would be the same so anyone new could just look it up online or have it spoiled by going to a message board. I do think your idea comes from an earnest place, just not one feasible in the cold void that is LEGO's attitude toward constraction.

 

Though I would LOVE a remaster of MNOG officially done by LEGO. I know someone was making one a while back but I don't recall it ever being finished. LEGO could clean it up; fix some bad textures and animations; maybe add a little more story/content; make the mini games better; make the game more interactive; cleaner sound effects. They could put it up on Steam for like 15 to 20 dollars and people would play it just because it's relatively cheap and interesting, plus it would have the name recognition of Bionicle. MNOG is arguably the best thing to come out of G1 and the most representative of "the golden years." Could be pretty profitable for how much work they would need to put in it since the base game already exists.

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Actually Updating G1 it self carefully like this could turn out great dc0b08425b554cc3eb5e162bc67a813f_preview

I love this, regardless of the topic I love this.

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If we have to go back to G1 in any way, a "remaster" is definitely not the answer. Rather, the approach should be akin to how the early Ultimate Spiderman comics rebooted the mythos of the Amazing Spiderman: same basic themes, some of the same characters, but a lot of retooling and refocusing - ditching everything that hasn't aged well or didn't even work the first time around.

 

Also, it have to be infinitely better than the fanfiction I totally didn't post a first and only chapter of years ago.

 

But seriously, give it up. Bionicle is not coming back, not after how badly G2 bombed. The theme just isn't viable from a commerical standpoint anymore. In fact, I'm doubting constraction as a whole has much of a place in today's market. We'll have the answer within a year or two, I'm sure.

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I think people need to move past the idea that BIONICLE must necessarily continue, that it's somehow always right there below the surface just waiting to be unleashed.  It was successful for a while, but there appears to be a trend of constraction losing its popularity.  Who knows, we may see it in the future, but it also may be that we've moved past the point where it would have any major cultural interest, like what happened with the monorail sets.

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I think the best option for Bionicle at this moment is one of those promotional "classic" sets, they've done them for Pirates, Castle and Space:

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5003082-1/Classic-Pirate-Minifigure

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5002812-1/Classic-Spaceman-Minifigure

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5004419-1/Classic-Knights-Minifigure

 

At this size maybe it could be a small Turaga with an exclusive mask, or if they wanted to really please the collectors they could have Vakama and Onewa but with a white huna and brown komau as extras!

 

As for the remaster, I don't think it would work well, it seems like a big investment for such a niche target audience.


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Actually Updating G1 it self carefully like this could turn out great dc0b08425b554cc3eb5e162bc67a813f_preview

You know, this is sort of what I meant by re-mastering: improving things in G1. :)

Plus, fans like us could re-master the G1 sets by putting improvements on them, too. When you do, you would know what I mean "re-mastering".

 

Anyway, if you guys would want a reboot that doesn't completely repeat the story, well, I would like to say that the reboot would have sets that look very much like the G1 sets, but with re-mastered stuff and improvements. :)

 

Anyway, if completely repeating the G1 story while selling re-mastered G1 sets wouldn't be effective, I'm thinking maybe at least a Traveller's Tale video game with a Sonic-Generations-in-2011-like and Turtles-Forever-in-2009-like story, where G1 and G2 heroes unite to travel through time and space to stop their main enemies, Velika and G2 Makuta, from ruining the G1 and G2 universes. The heroes would go to the past events in G1 and G2 along the way to re-live and restore them when they are slightly altered by the villains. The modernizing re-mastering of the G1 would apply there, too. For example, when a player would go to a 2001-storyline-based level, it would see the Infected Muaka and Kane Ra having new bend-able arms and probably some CCBS parts in the game. You think it would be a good idea to do that when you wait for Bionicle G3? I know that Bionicle isn't here this year, but I wish this idea could happen.

Plus, I think re-mastering the MNOG's and Bionicle Heroes would be a cool idea. :)

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I think the best option for Bionicle at this moment is one of those promotional "classic" sets, they've done them for Pirates, Castle and Space:

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5003082-1/Classic-Pirate-Minifigure

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5002812-1/Classic-Spaceman-Minifigure

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5004419-1/Classic-Knights-Minifigure

 

At this size maybe it could be a small Turaga with an exclusive mask, or if they wanted to really please the collectors they could have Vakama and Onewa but with a white huna and brown komau as extras!

 

As for the remaster, I don't think it would work well, it seems like a big investment for such a niche target audience.

I like this idea alot.

Someone get LEGO on the phone and make this a thing.

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I think the best option for Bionicle at this moment is one of those promotional "classic" sets, they've done them for Pirates, Castle and Space:

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5003082-1/Classic-Pirate-Minifigure

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5002812-1/Classic-Spaceman-Minifigure

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5004419-1/Classic-Knights-Minifigure

 

At this size maybe it could be a small Turaga with an exclusive mask, or if they wanted to really please the collectors they could have Vakama and Onewa but with a white huna and brown komau as extras!

 

As for the remaster, I don't think it would work well, it seems like a big investment for such a niche target audience.

It's worth pointing out that those promotional "classic" sets didn't necessitate bringing back any retired parts. Conversely, that'd be a necessity for almost any classic Bionicle sets, even ones like the Turaga that used mostly basic Technic (since the masks, heads, and eyestalks haven't been used since 2004). And bringing those sorts of parts back would be a dubious prospect even for mainline retail sets—for a promotional giveaway, it'd never happen.


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I think the best option for Bionicle at this moment is one of those promotional "classic" sets, they've done them for Pirates, Castle and Space:

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5003082-1/Classic-Pirate-Minifigure

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5002812-1/Classic-Spaceman-Minifigure

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5004419-1/Classic-Knights-Minifigure

 

At this size maybe it could be a small Turaga with an exclusive mask, or if they wanted to really please the collectors they could have Vakama and Onewa but with a white huna and brown komau as extras!

 

As for the remaster, I don't think it would work well, it seems like a big investment for such a niche target audience.

It's worth pointing out that those promotional "classic" sets didn't necessitate bringing back any retired parts. Conversely, that'd be a necessity for almost any classic Bionicle sets, even ones like the Turaga that used mostly basic Technic (since the masks, heads, and eyestalks haven't been used since 2004). And bringing those sorts of parts back would be a dubious prospect even for mainline retail sets—for a promotional giveaway, it'd never happen.
They could use a modified mask on a G2 head or just have a promotional mask or mask pack.

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I think the best option for Bionicle at this moment is one of those promotional "classic" sets, they've done them for Pirates, Castle and Space:

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5003082-1/Classic-Pirate-Minifigure

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5002812-1/Classic-Spaceman-Minifigure

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5004419-1/Classic-Knights-Minifigure

 

At this size maybe it could be a small Turaga with an exclusive mask, or if they wanted to really please the collectors they could have Vakama and Onewa but with a white huna and brown komau as extras!

 

As for the remaster, I don't think it would work well, it seems like a big investment for such a niche target audience.

It's worth pointing out that those promotional "classic" sets didn't necessitate bringing back any retired parts. Conversely, that'd be a necessity for almost any classic Bionicle sets, even ones like the Turaga that used mostly basic Technic (since the masks, heads, and eyestalks haven't been used since 2004). And bringing those sorts of parts back would be a dubious prospect even for mainline retail sets—for a promotional giveaway, it'd never happen.
They could use a modified mask on a G2 head or just have a promotional mask or mask pack.

 

I'm thinking a a new version of G1 Tahu Mata's Hau being able to clip onto the G2 head. 


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Este es mi primer comentario en BZPower, así que estoy algo perdido... Pero quería comentar que me agrada la idea de una continuación, pero también la de una remasterización, ya que cuando era más pequeño, solo tuve un Radiak, ni siquiera se donde están sus piezas, tal vez en una caja con más cajas, en el armario... ¡Que triste! Pero seguía su historia, trataba de entenderla y sigo con eso. Cuando vi Bionicle 2015 me emocione, no creí verlo de vuelta, bueno tal vez si, viendo a los fans pidiendo a gritos su regreso y miren regresó, aunque durara dos tristes años, pero es posible, no se, hay muchos conceptos e ideas que se podrían usar darle una continuación a la historia original, expandir su universo, porque si Bionicle es un gran universo, como el nuestro, del cual falta mucho por descubrir, aunque es cierto que por ahora, no va a ver nada nuevo, pero se vale soñar en un regreso. By the way, if you want to read, translate this

 

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I think the best option for Bionicle at this moment is one of those promotional "classic" sets, they've done them for Pirates, Castle and Space:

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5003082-1/Classic-Pirate-Minifigure

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5002812-1/Classic-Spaceman-Minifigure

 

https://brickset.com/sets/5004419-1/Classic-Knights-Minifigure

 

At this size maybe it could be a small Turaga with an exclusive mask, or if they wanted to really please the collectors they could have Vakama and Onewa but with a white huna and brown komau as extras!

 

As for the remaster, I don't think it would work well, it seems like a big investment for such a niche target audience.

It's worth pointing out that those promotional "classic" sets didn't necessitate bringing back any retired parts. Conversely, that'd be a necessity for almost any classic Bionicle sets, even ones like the Turaga that used mostly basic Technic (since the masks, heads, and eyestalks haven't been used since 2004). And bringing those sorts of parts back would be a dubious prospect even for mainline retail sets—for a promotional giveaway, it'd never happen.
They could use a modified mask on a G2 head or just have a promotional mask or mask pack.

Modifying a retired part would be no less of a challenge than bringing one back (in fact, it'd probably be even more of one, since the mold would have to be reengineered rather than just recast). I can only think of a single promotional set that included an exclusive new mold (I think a fig related to some Dutch retailer?). Most of the time promo sets rely on prints, recolors, or occasionally non-plastic elements like fabric tents.

 

There's also the matter of a promotional Bionicle set being much more unlikely when there isn't an active Bionicle theme for it to promote...


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Actually Updating G1 it self carefully like this could turn out great dc0b08425b554cc3eb5e162bc67a813f_preview

I love this, regardless of the topic I love this.

 

add a few pin holes or an axel slot and im game. i like to build mocs so versatility is my selling point, but i also love this

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I'd like remasters of the old sets! Not like the Stars or those other tiny promotional sets, but like G1 Toa Mata collector's editions. Full range of motion, bigger and more complex than they ever were before. I know I'd definitely buy that. Would it be profitable for Lego? Idk. But can one dream? Yes.

 

I think if the story was to be remastered, they should do it in short, episodic 'legends,' cutting all the fluff and focusing on major story lines. Think about it: these classic collector edition sets appear, you get a recap of the story, reminding you of the universe and what happened in G1. Then, a few months later....G3! I like the idea that it would be an entirely new story, but everything that happened in G1 could be just legends and stuff, you know?

 

 

 

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I think people need to move past the idea that BIONICLE must necessarily continue, that it's somehow always right there below the surface just waiting to be unleashed.  It was successful for a while, but there appears to be a trend of constraction losing its popularity.  Who knows, we may see it in the future, but it also may be that we've moved past the point where it would have any major cultural interest, like what happened with the monorail sets.

 

Comparing Bionicle to monorail is pretty unfair to Bionicle — the monorail sets were never successful, despite a disproportionate amount of AFOL nostalgia for them, while Bionicle was one of LEGO's top themes for several years and basically revolutionized the way they developed new product lines.

 

That said, as a sort of a corollary to your argument, I think we have to keep in mind that if Bionicle came back, it wouldn't be because "Bionicle deserves to exist" or anything like that. It would be because LEGO wanted to make money off of it and thought they had a viable strategy for doing so. A lot of fan suggestions for how Bionicle should be brought back treat the scenario like Bionicle coming back is the end goal and making it profitable is a means to that end, when in fact it's the other way around. Bionicle is just one of the LEGO Group's assets, and not necessarily even one of their strongest ones at this point in time. So the question is not just "why Bionicle?" but "why Bionicle and not some other IP more specifically tailored to today's generation of kids?"

 

Don't get me wrong, the nostalgia market is definitely pretty strong these days. But not necessarily strong enough to support a theme with such huge development costs as Bionicle. When you look at teen– or adult-targeted sets, most of them use very few theme- or set-specific molds and have very little story development, marketing, or tie-in media. The "remaster" idea you're suggesting is basically no less expensive than developing a whole new generation of the brand — the only difference is that unlike a reboot, which can be re-imagined according to the expectations of today's kids, a "G1 remaster" is shackled to sets and a story tailored to the expectations of kids of nearly 20 years ago.

 

On another note, there's another big difference between a video game remaster and what you're describing. Part of the reason for video game remasters is because a lot of classic games are no longer highly accessible in their original forms. Even if you were to buy those games on the aftermarket, they only run on long out-of-date hardware. By comparison, most G1 Bionicle sets and parts tend to be both cheap and plentiful on the aftermarket. The reason people aren't buying them anymore isn't because of any kind of hardware incompatibility or absurd price appreciation, it's because people don't particularly want them.

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I don't want to be told the same story again. I want to be told a new story that feels like it belongs with the old, but can still stand on its own two feet. Rehashing an old narrative defeats the whole purpose of a reboot.


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You know, guys...

I always found G2 a reboot for Artahka. I know it is a no-sense, but think a bit about it:

 

1) Artahka wears the Mask of Creation and helps the Toa upgrading their armor.

Ekimu wears the Mask of Creation and helps the Toa upgrading their armor.

 

2) Karzahni is a crazy dude that has his own realm rebuilding matoran.

Makuta (G2) gone mad by his brother and created a powerful and EEEVILL mask.

We saw something in the final episode of Journey To One: Shadow Matorans or Shadow Beings. Who knows if those are rebuild or modified by Makuta himself or his Shadow Powers?

 

3) Artahka and Karzahni were brothers, like Ekimu and Makuta.

 

4) Why in the Promo Poster of Bionicle 2016 Umarak have the island of Mata Nui on his head? Well... There must be a link between these two Generations, right?

 

5) Artahka rules the Island named after himself.

Ekimu, in some kind of way, is the ruler of Okoto (since he is a really important being).

 

So my thought is this: G2 is the Reboot for G1, yes... But the ambience could be the same. And Okoto is just Artahka. The similiarities are too much to be the opposite.

It is true that the two islands aren't equal, but that could be the fact G2 can be a prequel for G1.

 

Because another thing I thought is... On the first poster of Journey To One, what are those spehers in the background? Like... One is big than the other, so they can be like Bara Magna and Bota Magna (if we are on Aqua Magna).

 

A third gen could reboot again the first one, but playing into another ambience we never saw (Tren Krom island, Odina, Nynrah)...

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You know, guys...

I always found G2 a reboot for Artahka. I know it is a no-sense, but think a bit about it:

 

1) Artahka wears the Mask of Creation and helps the Toa upgrading their armor.

Ekimu wears the Mask of Creation and helps the Toa upgrading their armor.

 

2) Karzahni is a crazy dude that has his own realm rebuilding matoran.

Makuta (G2) gone mad by his brother and created a powerful and EEEVILL mask.

We saw something in the final episode of Journey To One: Shadow Matorans or Shadow Beings. Who knows if those are rebuild or modified by Makuta himself or his Shadow Powers?

 

3) Artahka and Karzahni were brothers, like Ekimu and Makuta.

 

4) Why in the Promo Poster of Bionicle 2016 Umarak have the island of Mata Nui on his head? Well... There must be a link between these two Generations, right?

 

5) Artahka rules the Island named after himself.

Ekimu, in some kind of way, is the ruler of Okoto (since he is a really important being).

 

So my thought is this: G2 is the Reboot for G1, yes... But the ambience could be the same. And Okoto is just Artahka. The similiarities are too much to be the opposite.

It is true that the two islands aren't equal, but that could be the fact G2 can be a prequel for G1.

 

Because another thing I thought is... On the first poster of Journey To One, what are those spehers in the background? Like... One is big than the other, so they can be like Bara Magna and Bota Magna (if we are on Aqua Magna).

 

A third gen could reboot again the first one, but playing into another ambience we never saw (Tren Krom island, Odina, Nynrah)...

I always thought that G2 was a world in Takanuva's toa star, that would explain why Ekimu is the toa of light, and why makuta is there, as this happened when Takanuva formed Takutanuva.

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Maybe it's just me, but I would buy the heck out of the original sets if they pulled a Nintendo and just re-released the same old things 15 years later.

Heck, last month I went on a huge nostalgia kick and bought a couple of Toa and Toa Nuva, all of the Turaga, 5 of the Bohrok, and a couple Rahkshi on eBay simply from wanting new/lightly used versions of my old childhood sets.

 

the joy of the old sets, particularly those made in 2001, 2002, and 2003 is that while primitive and basic in appearance, they were *VERSATILE* as all get-out. Sure the Turaga might look flat and skinny and have very little mobility, but I can show you 1001 uses for those L-shaped pieces that they use for their bodies, and most of their other parts were also very useful and versatile. same goes with the bulk of other 2001/2002 sets (and most of 2003). The later sets, while not bad by any means, feel more like action figures rather than building toys, and part of the joy of LEGO, at least to me, was being able to tear stuff apart and build new stuff from it. if I wanted my old stuff back I could just read the old instructions. a lot of the newer pieces just lack the versatility that the old ones had.

 

but that's just my opinion. maybe I'm alone in this, but I would absolutely buy the early sets if they were re-released exactly how they were 15-16 years ago.

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Maybe it's just me, but I would buy the heck out of the original sets if they pulled a Nintendo and just re-released the same old things 15 years later.

the thing is, when Nintendo rereleases videogames on Virtual Console, it doesn't take much if any money to distribute them, as they are a purely digital good - a bunch of data. yeah, an emulator was developed and that cost money, but that only has to be done once (for the most part) per system. write a GBA emulator and now they can release 1074 games for only the price of server upkeep. LEGO, on the other hand, would have to bring back the old moulds (or remake them), use plastic and cardboard and paper and other physical materials that cost money, physically ship them out to stores (or to your home) that also costs money, etc and all on a hunch that enough people will buy it and turn a profit.

 

that said, the nes/snes minis were indeed made as a physical good. now, this is another case of "develop it once, release it multiple times with different games" as the internals of the systems are identical, but hey, costs more to distribute. do i think if lego brought back, say, the original toa for a limited run or whatever, would they all sell? absolutely. do i think it's possible, with the general nostalgia trend that's been going on with brands lately? sure, i mean look at the Classics sets that Toa Kumo brought up.

 

..i guess my point was, Nintendo rereleases aren't comparable to LEGO rereleases?

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Maybe it's just me, but I would buy the heck out of the original sets if they pulled a Nintendo and just re-released the same old things 15 years later.

Heck, last month I went on a huge nostalgia kick and bought a couple of Toa and Toa Nuva, all of the Turaga, 5 of the Bohrok, and a couple Rahkshi on eBay simply from wanting new/lightly used versions of my old childhood sets.

 

the joy of the old sets, particularly those made in 2001, 2002, and 2003 is that while primitive and basic in appearance, they were *VERSATILE* as all get-out. Sure the Turaga might look flat and skinny and have very little mobility, but I can show you 1001 uses for those L-shaped pieces that they use for their bodies, and most of their other parts were also very useful and versatile. same goes with the bulk of other 2001/2002 sets (and most of 2003). The later sets, while not bad by any means, feel more like action figures rather than building toys, and part of the joy of LEGO, at least to me, was being able to tear stuff apart and build new stuff from it. if I wanted my old stuff back I could just read the old instructions. a lot of the newer pieces just lack the versatility that the old ones had.

 

but that's just my opinion. maybe I'm alone in this, but I would absolutely buy the early sets if they were re-released exactly how they were 15-16 years ago.

:h: :m_o:

The fact that you were able to buy the originals on eBay highlights a significant reason why straight rereleases would be a bad idea. With very few exceptions, used Bionicle sets are cheap and plentiful on the aftermarket. Lego would essentially be competing with other sellers selling the exact same products (most likely more authentic versions of the same products, since even some of the classic colors have been completely retired). Add in the cost of bringing back retired parts, the logistics of distributing sets globally, and it would be incredibly hard to turn a profit on those. Would a small percentage of people be interested? Sure. But unless the rereleases would sell BETTER than newly developed sets and themes, it'd be hard to justify devoting resources to the former instead of to the latter.


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