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#1601 Offline Five O'Clock P~M

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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 09:26 AM

First New York, now Paris... Looks like GF is expanding its horizons a bit here, which I personally love.

The starter names are just lame, though.


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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 09:52 AM

[color=rgb(212,175,55);]I'm digging the dark/dragon? legendary. But the deer one is way too much like an evolved form of Virizion...As for starters, I'll end up going with fire as always, but at least odds are good that it can't possibly be fire/fighting! :PAnd I hadn't noticed at first, but there are DNA helixes in the logos. So I'm really interested in how that will work out, and it as a motif already explains the X and Y titles.~|ET|~[/color]
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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 11:14 AM

Pokemon Y it is, then. Water starter is silly, which is a first =P.

 

Anyhow, very interesting, but nostalgic at the same time; hearkens back to gamecube style play, but with an actual RPG, so I'll be impressed to see where this all goes.


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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 05:55 PM

I AM SO FREAKIN PSYCHED I ??? CANT HANDLE THIS WOW

 

[color=#d4af37;]As for starters, I'll end up going with fire as always, but at least odds are good that it can't possibly be fire/fighting! :P[/color]

theyre probably fire/psychic, water/fighting, and grass/dark, which would do good to reverse the type effectiveness triangle the starters usually have with their secondary types


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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 06:43 PM

i literally went "WHOOOOAH" when i saw this. looks freaking amazing =D

 

aargh October never felt so far away ;___;


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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 06:54 PM

But October is in so long. ;-;

 

3DS Pokemon should be pretty great though, I'm really liking the graphics and the new Pokemon.


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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 07:00 PM

Bleargh I want R/S remakes.


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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 07:03 PM

Oh my, Pokemon X and Pokemon Y? A new generation already? This is incredible!I  think I'll go with Fennekin. Chespin is starting to grow on me (already?), but Froakie still looks as ridiculous as ever.


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#1609 Offline Dralcax

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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 07:15 PM

They look like Fire/Psychic, Water/Electric, and Grass/Ground to me. The new legendaries suck, though. I wonder if Gamefreak realizes that they're basically glorified Unown...
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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 07:24 PM

Maybe that's what they are? After all, there's a lot of mystery around Unown.
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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 07:30 PM

I AM SO FREAKIN PSYCHED I ??? CANT HANDLE THIS WOW

[color=#d4af37;]As for starters, I'll end up going with fire as always, but at least odds are good that it can't possibly be fire/fighting! :P[/color]

theyre probably fire/psychic, water/fighting, and grass/dark, which would do good to reverse the type effectiveness triangle the starters usually have with their secondary types   

That would be a nice shift, though I've heard arguments for Froakie being dark or psychic as well from his artwork (dark - his white parts sort of look like the Japanese thief trope of the bag slung over the shoulder/handkerchief on the face; psychic - he's doing the psychic hand thing). As long as we don't wind up with fire/fighting for the fourth time in a row, I'll be happy.As for plot/legendary speculation, all I can say is with these double helices in the Japanese logos we'd better have Mewtwo show up three-quarters through the plot to lay the smackdown. Respect your elders, deer-and-phoenix-things.More seriously, we'll probably get a villainous team based around science this time around or something like that.

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#1612 Offline Dralcax

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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 08:43 PM

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="GSR" data-cid="488220" data-time="1357691458"><p><blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Aho-Chan" data-cid="488160"><p>I AM SO FREAKIN PSYCHED I ??? CANT HANDLE THIS WOW<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Electric Turahk" data-cid="487969"><p><br /><span style='color: #d4af37'><strong class='bbc'>As for starters, I'll end up going with fire as always, but at least odds are good that it can't possibly be fire/fighting! :P</strong></span></p></blockquote>theyre probably fire/psychic, water/fighting, and grass/dark, which would do good to reverse the type effectiveness triangle the starters usually have with their secondary types<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /><br /><br /></p></blockquote>That would be a nice shift, though I've heard arguments for Froakie being dark or psychic as well from his artwork (dark - his white parts sort of look like the Japanese thief trope of the bag slung over the shoulder/handkerchief on the face; psychic - he's doing the psychic hand thing). As long as we don't wind up with fire/fighting for the fourth time in a row, I'll be happy.<br /><br />As for plot/legendary speculation, all I can say is with these double helices in the Japanese logos we'd better have Mewtwo show up three-quarters through the plot to lay the smackdown. Respect your elders, deer-and-phoenix-things.<br /><br />More seriously, we'll probably get a villainous team based around science this time around or something like that.</p></blockquote>I actually think Froakie is Water/Electric... He has Thundurus's color scheme and he has these little clouds. He could be based off of that experiment with shocking frog legs to make them twitch... Froakie does look like a scientist, maybe Ben Franklin because of the kite experiment?
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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 09:51 PM

Guys, Froakie is not going to be a water/fighting type.  There is a cloud around his neck.  That indicates that its either going to be water/flying, water/ice (because snowclouds exist and 'froakie' may come partially from freeze) or pure water type.  I can't speak for the other ones though, though I suspect Fennekin may be fire/psychic.

 

As for the starter I'll pick, I'm going to go with Froakie (if his evolutions look good) because he looks great and it looks like they'll be doing a cloud theme with him.  That is just really cool to me.  Water starters have yet to disappoint, so I'm confident.  Also, I really don't like Chespin, he just looks cluttered and, to be blunt, sort of dumb.  Fennekin looks good, but is way better looking in-game than in official art.


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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 10:05 PM

Guys, Froakie is not going to be a water/fighting type (Ignoring the fact that the trio would be really unbalanced to Fennekin's hindrance if this was the case)

 

??? if froakie were water/fighting it wouldnt make it unbalanced

 

froakies primary type makes it weak to chespins primary and strong against fennekins primary, while their secondary types would reverse that perfectly, especially since their secondary types arent strong or weak against their primary types


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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 10:53 PM

Why would Froakie be Water/Fighting? It looks like BENJAMIN FRIGGIN FRANKLIN.
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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 10:58 PM

i dont see water/fighting from froakie at all

 

okay i'm gonna say it, the new 'mons look great [which is surprising, usually you hate the new 'mons then warm up to them] but the in game graphics, like the character models, look awful

 

jesus my cellphone runs better looking games than this


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#1617 Offline High Voltage

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Posted Jan 08 2013 - 11:22 PM

Guys, Froakie is not going to be a water/fighting type (Ignoring the fact that the trio would be really unbalanced to Fennekin's hindrance if this was the case)

 

??? if froakie were water/fighting it wouldnt make it unbalanced

 

froakies primary type makes it weak to chespins primary and strong against fennekins primary, while their secondary types would reverse that perfectly, especially since their secondary types arent strong or weak against their primary types

Yeah, sorry, I was thinking of the other way (grass/fight, fire/psychic, water/dark).  Sorry, still waking up.  Still, the dark, fight, psychic trio will always be slightly unbalanced due to dark's immunity, and Froakie just doesn't have any indications of being a water/fight or water/dark and there is much more concrete evidence for other types based on the design and name.

 

One last thing, if Froakie's shiny form has the colour scheme of Cyclos from the Wind Waker like Normal Froakie has the scheme of Zephos, that will be the best reference ever.


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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 01:31 AM

The Pokemon Company president mentioned a few things about Pokemon X and Y Versions in a press release:
    [*]In addition to existing Pokemon, there will be a large number of completely new Pokemon. The additions will bring the total number of Pokemon in the franchise from the current 649 to over 700.[*]Because of Pokemon X and Y, the Pokemon anime, movies, card game, and merchandise will “break into a new dimension.”[*]People around the world will be able to simultaneously experience “Real Play.” (I’m assuming this is referring to the game’s global October release.)[*]The game will utilize the 3DS to its maximum abilities to leverage its overwhelmingly beautiful presentation.[*]The game uses an innovative communication system that makes it feel as if you are playing with other players around the world.[*]The bonds between players and Pokemon will deepen, and Pokemon will become stronger with the new battle structure.[*]Everyone will enjoy the game’s scenario and music.[/list]  


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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 01:39 AM

 

    [*]Everyone will enjoy the game’s scenario and music.[/list]

     

Looks like they learned from 5th generation. :) 

Anyway, the new Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game had made me seriously consider getting a 3DS. Now I know I'll get one.

 

My thoughts on the new Pokemon:

Chespin - This guy looks really cute. He's probably my second favorite of the bunch. (Although I may actually pick him if Fennekin does end up being Fire/Fighting...)

Fennekin - There's a reason why Quilava is my favorite Pokemon of all time. It looks cute and tough at the same time. You can cuddle with it like a pet, but it can certainly hold its own in a fight. Fennekin seems to have inherited this trait from the Cyndaquil line, and I'll definitely be picking it as my starter (unless it ends up evolving into yet another Fire/Fighting type...)

Froakie - My least favorite of the bunch, but he'll probably grow on me.

Legendary X - Looks like a Virizion/Arceus fusion. To be honest, his antlers just seem way too big. If they were going for the X shape, they could have bulked out his lower body a bit more.

Legendary Y - This guy looks awesome, and reminds me of one of the kami trio's Therian formes.


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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 09:51 AM

*Looks up at Erebus' quote* ... New battle structure? I wonder what that means? A less confusing battle system? Showing EVs and IVs this time? =PKanye: You hated Wind Waker too, didn't you? =P I honestly don't get the hate. It looks like the sprites we've had all of Generation 4/5; just in model form.

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#1621 Offline Five O'Clock P~M

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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 12:33 PM

I dig it, but the graphics seem a little... non-Pokemon. I like my chibi NPCs.


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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 12:44 PM

They aren't chibi? Again, it seems like Generation 5's sprites... just transformed into models. Granted, Gen 5's sprites were less chibi than say Gen 4's, but... Still. =P I do like the detail, though. And the possible customization aspect.
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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 01:11 PM

I'm talking about the player overworld sprites from Gen V and earlier. Which have been replaced by 15-foot-tall freaks, from the perspective of previous generations.


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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 01:19 PM

That's just the camera angle? 0-o If you look, the tall grass is still the same height as one of the small kids, so unless we've got mutant 15 foot tall tall grass, then I'd say it's just the camera angle playing tricks on peoples' eyes(Like how the rollerskating scene makes it seem like X is the same size as a normal person).
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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 01:46 PM

Yeah, something about the colors on the trailers seems a little, lighter, I guess. Well, on the Pokemon anyway. For example, just compare that Pikachu's (From the trailer) yellow to another Pikachu from an older game or some art. The yellow is quite a bit lighter... Wait, maybe I was just imagining it. :P

 

Well, it still seems like it's the slightest bit lighter. Or maybe it's something else. 

 

On another note, I told my friend he'd need a 3DS to get the next Pokemon game (Because like everyone else, I assumed it was going to be a Generation 6 game on the 3DS), so he's gonna have to get one soon if he wants to join me, my sister, and his sister in Generation VI! 


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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 02:27 PM

[color=#008080;][font="'courier new', courier, monospace;"]Not gonna lie but when I saw the new trailer I was interested but[/color][font="'courier new', courier, monospace;"] I feel like Gen 6 is going to be the games that I might skip mainly at the fact I have been relearning pokemon since Gen 2 and honestly it has become rather tiring, unless the games actually are good then I might consider trying out one. On another note in B2 I finally caught myself a Tynamo and I usually nickname my pokemon after it's first form Japanese name but I discovered the best name for it ever and named it after Eelektross's french name Ohmassacre.  [/font][/font]


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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 03:44 PM

The new legendaries have been revealed to be named Xerneas and Yveltal. Hello? I'd like to buy a vowel? This is why they should have stuck to using colors.

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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 03:47 PM

It's Yveltal. =P Again, Eviltail.Xerneas isn't too bad. And really, when you're used to Bionicle names and their pronunciations, nothing's that bad. =P
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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 03:51 PM

Yeah... But something like Xanther and Yomi would have been more Pokémon like names.
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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 04:23 PM

How much you wanna bet that "Poké Tower" is gonna feature heavily in the villanous team's grand plan?


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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 08:06 PM

Two different sprites. =P The camera's closer to the character in that circumstance. It's like when the camera zooms in on Nate; he looks bigger than he actually is. You can see the similarities more in the gym puzzle stuff. Granted; I'll admit, it's not 100% the Gen 5 sprites in model form(I even said that; it's merely similar to them); but when you compare how the sprites themselves look, to what the Gen 4 and 3 sprites looked like, then you'll see it's a logical progression, in a way. And partially likely due to the switch to models in the first place.
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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 08:24 PM

I actually like the name Yveltal. '-'

 

But anyway, it's not like the new hero(ine) is radically gigantic. He's probably about half the size of the Route sign, when they're side by side. And it's not like the sprites haven't been getting bigger.


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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 08:27 PM

Why does it look like the sprite's head was superimposed onto his body?
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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 08:36 PM

The games Y and X both look cool, but to me, it just doesn't feel like Pokemon. I'll buy it anyways and give it a shot, but I'm mainly not sure about the graphics. But I'm open to change.


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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 08:37 PM

^ He's running at that point, the body's at an odd angle, but the head didn't move. It's a little more obvious what's going on in the video. There may or may not be clipping, too.
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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 09:05 PM

Remember, this is still in development, so the models are by no means final. Besides, it'll look better in 3D.


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Posted Jan 09 2013 - 11:30 PM

The new legendaries have been revealed to be named Xerneas and Yveltal. Hello? I'd like to buy a vowel? This is why they should have stuck to using colors.

 

'Y' is a vowel

 

it makes the short 'e' sound

 

it's pronounced ee-vel-tal

 

also, the protagonist looks an awful lot like hilbert with a haircut


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Posted Jan 10 2013 - 12:54 AM

Remember, this is still in development, so the models are by no means final. Besides, it'll look better in 3D.

[color=#008080;][font="'courier new', courier, monospace;"]Not gonna lie once again but I think the graphics are gonna seem nonpokemonish as I really hoped the next game was still in the trademark sprites.[/color][/font]


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Posted Jan 10 2013 - 09:13 AM

My initial reaction to the new starters was better than when the Gen 5 ones were announced. <3 that Fennec. Chespin looks like Oshawatt's hippy cousin, though. Also digging the Colosseum/DQ9 vibe from the overworld, though it'll feel weird for awhile. Not too sure on the legendaries, but after a few days Yveltal has grown on me a bit.How long before another massive wave of nostalgia overtakes the fanbase, though? :P haha.
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