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#1 Offline Ryuujin

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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 09:25 PM

in the tradition of such topics before it, discuss the popular yet oft-misunderstood genre of heavy metal here.
 
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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 09:28 PM

I haven't found 2011 to be particularly good for metal, though I caught a few good concerts (A Perfect Circle was a high note, as was Mayhem Fest '11). Looking forward to the "Dat iz not tru metal yo" conversations.
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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 09:30 PM

PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE. Confound these Megadeth, they drive me to unsleep. Apart from Megadeth I like Metallica, A7X and various other Metal artists that I can't remember at the moment.
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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 09:32 PM

I just got "Before There Was", a compilation of the first three The Chariot albums. I LOVE IT
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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 09:34 PM

Does "Between The Buried & Me" count as metal? They're fantastic musicians.
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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 09:34 PM

My favorite type of metal is nu-metal (guttural screaming for the win! :P ), and Slipknot's my favorite metal band. My favorite metal song is probably "Dig" by Mudvayne.
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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 09:34 PM

@Dorek: Really? I thought 2011 has been pretty great so far. We've gotten new Opeth, Mastodon, In Flames, Machine Head, Anthrax, and Dream Theater, and have the new Megadeth on the way - among countless others.. better than 2010, in my opinion.@Varaka: yes, yes they do@Superbionicle: please go listen to some better bands.

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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 09:50 PM

I'm really digging the new Machine Head album. You guys should check it out, it's incredible. Also, I really want the new Textures album. If you guys haven't heard of them, you should also check them out.
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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 09:54 PM

I keep meaning to give the new Machine Head a listen, but with all the other new releases coming out I haven't really had time. Plus I have my doubts that it'll beat The Blackening.on an unrelated note, picked up the new Threat Signal album today - it was good, but fairly unremarkable and a bit of a letdown.
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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 09:55 PM

@Dorek: Really? I thought 2011 has been pretty great so far. We've gotten new Opeth, Mastodon, In Flames, Machine Head, Anthrax, and Dream Theater, and have the new Megadeth on the way - among countless others.. better than 2010, in my opinion. @Varaka: yes, yes they do @Superbionicle: please go listen to some better bands.

The lack of eloquence in most nu-metal song lyrics tends to turn some people off (especially "Dig"). Although I've heard some Thrash Metal bands I liked, such as Slayer and Metallica, so I have some variety going on.

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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 09:59 PM

@Laughin'Man: It's not quite The Blackening, it's kinda more melodic, but it's still pretty intense. I love it. Who else is excited for new Periphery and TesseracT? They're two of my favorite bands right now, and with TesseracT's new vocalist and all, I'm anxious to see how their new album's going to turn out.
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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 09:59 PM

@Superbionicle: nu-metal isn't a bad starting point but I'll be honest with you bro, there are tons of much better and more interesting styles and bands out there, both lyrically and in terms of musicial talent and technicality. nu-metal is just too overly-simplistic for my tastes.@~Takava Nirhii~: personally not a fan of either of those, BUT if you like them (and other djent-type bands) you may like the band SEES. their album TheenD is free on their website and it's pretty great.

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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 10:13 PM

New August Burns Red album is pretty good. It's all about the midi version of "Empire" from the deluxe edition. :smeag: Also the new Black Dahlia Murder album was disappointing. Not bad, but nothing really wowed me.

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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 10:33 PM

The metal albums that I've heard that came out were from last month. And that was Worship Music by Anthrax and A Dramatic Turn of Events by Dream Theater. Both were good, and I don't have much commentary for them, other than Anthrax is finally returning to thrash. I've been listening to Savatage and Dark Angel recently as well, specifically Hall of the Mountain King, Gutter Ballet and Handful of Rain by Savatage and Time Does Not Heal by Dark Angel. Both are much rawer, more aggressive prog metal. Dark Angel's thrash, so their progression is insanely fast and their songs are so intensive because they don't slow down at all. 9 songs, 67 minutes, 246 riffs! Also listened to Anacrusis recently at LM's suggestion. They're good, but I've been focusing on other bands. lol.
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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 10:41 PM

@Superbionicle: nu-metal isn't a bad starting point but I'll be honest with you bro, there are tons of much better and more interesting styles and bands out there, both lyrically and in terms of musicial talent and technicality. nu-metal is just too overly-simplistic for my tastes. @~Takava Nirhii~: personally not a fan of either of those, BUT if you like them (and other djent-type bands) you may like the band SEES. their album TheenD is free on their website and it's pretty great.

Now that I think about it, labeling "Dig" as my favorite metal song was premature. I have a friend who is a huge metal enthusiast that has your opinion of nu-metal as well (though he likes Slipknot). He's shown me some good bands, such as Pantera, Megadeth, Anthrax, and so forth. I like to call him my metal-music mentor. :lol:

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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 11:09 PM

@~Takava Nirhii~: personally not a fan of either of those, BUT if you like them (and other djent-type bands) you may like the band SEES. their album TheenD is free on their website and it's pretty great.

Thanks for the recommendation, it sounds great! I'll download it tomorrow when I get the chance. :)

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Posted Oct 13 2011 - 11:44 PM

Well, as I'm sure you can tell, I love metal. it's my primary genre (mainly thrash and prog). Favourite bands are Dream Theater, Megadeth, Metallica, Death Angel, Coheed and Cambria (not quite metal but awesome) and many many more. I've found 2011 to be an excellent year for metal as a whole, with Dream Theater releasing their best album since Octavarium (perhaps best album period), Anthrax returning to thrash with Joey back and sounding amazing, Opeth laying off the screams and putting out some wicked material I can enjoy... even this new Mastodon album sounds like something I could get used to. Also got the new Megadeth coming out soon, which I pre-ordered with the special-edition bundle thingy. Stoked for that.Also, I'm sure you all know about Lulu? Thoughts on that?Posted Image
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Posted Oct 14 2011 - 12:53 PM

So far this year, I'm loving Machine Head's Unto The Locust, Opeth's Heritage, and Skold's Anomie.Wednesday 13's Calling All Corpses is also pretty good, but I don't like it as much as Skeletons or Transylvania 90210. Also Wayne Static's Pighammer is quite good.The new Mastodon isn't bad but I'm a bit underwhelmed by it. The new Trivium is also a bit of a let down.Also, the new Alice Cooper album, Welcome 2 My Nightmare, while not his most metal release, I found to be quite good. Been listening to it every morning before leaving the house since I got it. The bonus track on the limited edition release is also fantastic.But yeah, so far my favourite albums this year are Skold, Machine Head and Alice Cooper.

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Posted Oct 14 2011 - 01:11 PM

eww Wayne Staticthe new Trivium was decent. not a huge fan of the band, but I thought the album was decent and entertaining.one of the biggest letdowns for me this year wasn't an album being bad, it was an album just not being released. Gojira's Sea Shepherd EP was supposed to be released last month but apparently it's been delayed indefinitely.
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Posted Oct 14 2011 - 01:31 PM

I'm excited for the new 'Deth album, not so much for the Metallica/Lou Reed thing.
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Posted Oct 14 2011 - 04:45 PM

I'm super stoked for Th1rt3en as well. Can't wait to have my very first vinyl records. Also really looking forward to hearing the new renditions of New World Order, Black Swan, and Millennium Of The Blind.And from the one song ("the Voice" I believe) I've heard from lulu, it sounds terrible. Posted Image

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Posted Oct 14 2011 - 05:32 PM

I know of them due to their vocalist's previous membership in Norma Jean, but I've never actually given them a listen. Norma Jean aside, I'm not really into the more dissonant, hardcore-leaning metalcore that The Chariot apparently falls under.
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Posted Oct 14 2011 - 05:33 PM

I like some bands that perform metal, like A7X, Dragonforce, Rage Against The Machine (Rap metal is count?), P.O.D., Limp Bizkit, Metallica. Bring Me the Horizon is great too, and Slipknot, "Before I Forget" is nice.
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Posted Oct 14 2011 - 06:55 PM

New Mastodon was good. Could've been better, but it was good. Anyone else think the Metallica/Lou Reed collaboration is going to be absolutely awful?
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Posted Oct 14 2011 - 07:02 PM

Quit hating just because The View is a bad song. I'm not really going to judge yet on Lulu.
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Posted Oct 14 2011 - 07:48 PM

Well, metal is a good genre, i listened to some metallic and its awsome, but my favorite genres are alternative/nu-metal, it probably wouldnt really count at metal but w/e. Some of my favorite bands are Linkin park, skillet, and Trust company.

yeah none of those are metal, or even anywhere close.

Darnit. Well these bands are still awesome to me. :)

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Posted Oct 14 2011 - 07:50 PM

Well, metal is a good genre, i listened to some metallic and its awsome, but my favorite genres are alternative/nu-metal, it probably wouldnt really count at metal but w/e. Some of my favorite bands are Linkin park, skillet, and Trust company.

yeah none of those are metal, or even anywhere close.

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Posted Oct 14 2011 - 08:32 PM

I like some bands that perform metal, like A7X, Dragonforce, Rage Against The Machine (Rap metal is count?), P.O.D., Limp Bizkit, Metallica. Bring Me the Horizon is great too, and Slipknot, "Before I Forget" is nice.

When did Limp Bizkit preform Metal?

Quit hating just because The View is a bad song. I'm not really going to judge yet on Lulu.

Dude, Loue Reed's other stuff is pretty suckey too. :P

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Posted Oct 14 2011 - 08:33 PM

Some older metal bands (Guns N' Roses, Metallica) are pretty good. But a lot of the other metal just doesn't suit my interest.
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Posted Oct 14 2011 - 08:40 PM

The last topic was (and this one will too, most likely) seriously lacking in brutal/slam/gore/grindcore death metal. I suggest that we fix that.

Now, I have a massive list that I could post, but for now let us just leave it at Guttural Secrete, Awaiting The Autopsy and Putrefying Cadaverment. If you do not like those you have no soul.

As for this years releases: Warbringers' Worlds Torn Asunder is amazing -I particularly enjoy "Shattered Like Glass"- and what do we thing to the self-titled from Anubis Gate? I am a little iffy on it at the moment. I have to say that I much prefer Hansens' vocals to Fevre.

Oh and I shall advise you to skip the nu-metal, metal/deathcore phases almost entirely, Superbionicle. I would suggest thrash and power as a good starting point.


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Posted Oct 14 2011 - 09:14 PM

Quit hating just because The View is a bad song. I'm not really going to judge yet on Lulu.

Dude, Loue Reed's other stuff is pretty suckey too. :P

But you can't say that it's going to suck. Lou Reed's albums aren't Lulu.

As for this years releases: Warbringers' Worlds Torn Asunder is amazing -I particularly enjoy "Shattered Like Glass"

I've only heard Living Weapon, Shattered Like Glass and Savagery. Still can't find that album online. >=[


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Posted Oct 15 2011 - 12:23 AM

I'm still getting Lulu when it comes out, Invi. I'm just saying The View was a horrible song. I'm genuinely hoping I can like it as an album when I hear it.Also anyone (besides invi :P ) into Death Angel? I've been hooked on them recently, with finally listening to Killing Season and all.

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Posted Oct 15 2011 - 02:01 AM

Please don't get me started on Lulu. I listened to the entire "The View," and it would be really bad it it weren't for Lou Reed prattling all over the song, which makes it utterly horrible. Seriously, I want an actual new Metallica album, not a collaboration between sharks and old men. Interesting separately, but a bloody mess together.

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Posted Oct 15 2011 - 02:56 AM

I'm not much a metalhead, I listen to mostly rock, but, say, Metallica and Alice Cooper are epic to no end. inb4agangofpeoplepretendingtheiropinionisbetterthanmine But then again, metal and rock can be hardly distinguished. Eh, I dunno.-Dovydas

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Posted Oct 15 2011 - 09:18 AM

Lou Reed has had some duds (Metal Machine Music, anyone?) but his solo output has generally been good (Transformer, Berlin, New York, Songs for Drella, etc.), and his work with The Velvet Underground is solidly amazing. But anyway, back on topic. Anyone else like Isis? I thought Oceanic was quite good.
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Posted Oct 15 2011 - 09:53 AM

I listen to Between the Buried and Me a lot. black Dahlia Murder,too. I wasn't sure about their new album, I just like playing Nocturnal vs. Moonlight Equilibrium together. Also listened to the Project Hate MCMXCIX's new album, wasn't really a fan of the new singer.
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Please don't get me started on Lulu. I listened to the entire "The View," and it would be really bad it it weren't for Lou Reed prattling all over the song, which makes it utterly horrible. Seriously, I want an actual new Metallica album, not a collaboration between sharks and old men. Interesting separately, but a bloody mess together.

James would like you to know that he is, in fact, the table.

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#39 Offline Ghostie

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Posted Oct 15 2011 - 10:44 AM

What makes that line funnier is that the lyrics claim that it's 'I am the tablet.'No. It's pretty clearly 'I am the table.'And that's hilarious.
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#40 Offline Jonestown Bartender

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Posted Oct 15 2011 - 12:10 PM

Mainstream metal has been really trashy and pretty corporate since about the late 80's IMO but theres still some pretty good indie metal bands.
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