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This topic is awful... it's just:"hay guise band rocks new album is best chex it out"over and over, with people barely discussing anything. Is metal really that big and its fans that picky that we can't find anything in common to talk about?

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This topic is awful... it's just:"hay guise band rocks new album is best chex it out"over and over, with people barely discussing anything. Is metal really that big and its fans that picky that we can't find anything in common to talk about?

Not only that, but it seems that as soon as someone posts something someone else doesn't like (such as subgenres on the last page), elitism and blatant disrespect for other people's tastes tend to rear their ugly heads.

look brosyou can go out and buy a bunch of power metal recordsor save a ton of money and let me sing the entire genre to you right nowit'll only take like 15 seconds guys, i promise

I don't mind you hating power metal, but don't be a troll about it. There are plenty of ways to do it nicely.If you can't do it without treating other people's opinions and tastes like dirt, then this is clearly not the site for you.tata! Edited by Valenti

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This topic is awful... it's just:"hay guise band rocks new album is best chex it out"over and over, with people barely discussing anything. Is metal really that big and its fans that picky that we can't find anything in common to talk about?

So it would seem...This topic needs more thrash.

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This topic is awful... it's just:"hay guise band rocks new album is best chex it out"over and over, with people barely discussing anything. Is metal really that big and its fans that picky that we can't find anything in common to talk about?

Eh, I think the bigger problem is the hate in here, as Val said. Most of the time it looks like if you mention anything that isn't metalcore or deathcore (or a classic band that's pretty much universally accepted as good) the trolls come out.Anyway, having been living under a rock, I just found out that Cathedral will be retiring after they put out the next album. Sad times.

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So it would seem...This topic needs more thrash.

you should listen to municipal waste then bro, good stuff. i barely even like thrash but they're great.

This topic is awful... it's just:"hay guise band rocks new album is best chex it out"over and over, with people barely discussing anything. Is metal really that big and its fans that picky that we can't find anything in common to talk about?

i don't see you contributing anything dude, just saying

I like Pantera. :PBut yeah, Deftones sucks. d:Also, I've been listening to nothing but Lazarus AD recently.

i'm in the minority that dislikes Pantera (despite loving deathcore which apes Pantera every chance it gets), but deftones is fantastic! whatchu talkin' bout

Emmure is awful in every way possible and some that are not.Eh, Municipal Waste? I never really got thrash crossover but I shall give their new record a go.

Emmure is as stupid as possible and that is why i love themglad you're checking out MW despite hating my wigger-core tastes :Pdo you like Cattle Decapitation? it seems like they'd be within your tastes. i just listened to their new track and it's fantastic Edited by Idunnolol
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I don't mind you hating power metal, but don't be a troll about it. There are plenty of ways to do it nicely.If you can't do it without treating other people's opinions and tastes like dirt, then this is clearly not the site for you.tata!

I only do it out of love <3love for shardhe loved being an elitist troll, the least I can do is attempt to take his place

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Most of the time it looks like if you mention anything that isn't metalcore or deathcore (or a classic band that's pretty much universally accepted as good) the trolls come out.

the funny thing is that I've seen metalcore/deathcore getting no less hate than anything else, perhaps even moreso.

I only do it out of love <3love for shardhe loved being an elitist troll, the least I can do is attempt to take his place

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"I don't see you contributing anything dude... just sayin"That's because I kinda' gave up lol. Nobody appeared to be in the least bit interested in the bands I was talking about, and I didn't want to rain on your little metalcore parade (which I despise) so i figured I'd just step out and let you guys have fun.Anyway I looked into Havok and Kreator today, and wasn't really thrilled with either, though Kreator holds some promise. I may get around to listening to them again some time. Also listened to Pantera's Vulgar Display Of Power and didn't dislike it as much as I remember. It was pretty decent.

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This topic is awful... it's just:"hay guise band rocks new album is best chex it out"over and over, with people barely discussing anything. Is metal really that big and its fans that picky that we can't find anything in common to talk about?

This probably due to the fact that most people here seem to like thrash and awful core rubbish (which, if we stuck to real metal would also reduce the aforementione elitism). If people do not like X band and/or know anything about their genre, what are we suppsoed to talk about? I suppose we could decide on a topic now, and then stick to it for a while, but I really cannot see that panning out well.

"I don't see you contributing anything dude... just sayin"That's because I kinda' gave up lol. Nobody appeared to be in the least bit interested in the bands I was talking about, and I didn't want to rain on your little metalcore parade (which I despise) so i figured I'd just step out and let you guys have fun.

Yeah, I tried but it is really only Idunnolol that is into the same bands as me so it sort of fizzled out, haha.

Emmure is as stupid as possible and that is why i love themglad you're checking out MW despite hating my wigger-core tastes :Pdo you like Cattle Decapitation? it seems like they'd be within your tastes. i just listened to their new track and it's fantastic

Aside from the fact that their songwriting causes me physical pain, you saying that puts me off even more; I like serious music, hence why listen to metal.And of course I like Cattle Decapitation. I was not aware that they had a new track out. (I have been listening to Global Flatline on a pretty much continues loop since it was released, haha) I should probably see what they have put out now.Also, new Cannibal Corpse -Torture- is fantastic.Edit: Just listened to the new Cattle Decapitation: brutal as ######. Not sure how I feel about the weird half singing, half growling parts, but the rest is amazing. Edited by -Sykura-

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Aside from the fact that their songwriting causes me physical pain, you saying that puts me off even more; I like serious music, hence why listen to metal.And of course I like Cattle Decapitation. I was not aware that they had a new track out. (I have been listening to Global Flatline on a pretty much continues loop since it was released, haha) I should probably see what they have put out now.Also, new Cannibal Corpse -Torture- is fantastic.Edit: Just listened to the new Cattle Decapitation: brutal as ######. Not sure how I feel about the weird half singing, half growling parts, but the rest is amazing.

see i like metal for the totally opposite reason - it's incredibly silly. i'd find it hard to look at the whole black metal scene and not find it hilariousi still have to check out Torture. decibel gave it high praise, and reception seems super positive. i'll listen to it tonighti think that weird singing was on The Harvest Floor too, at least it was on the last track. not too big on it but if they keep it to a minimum i could see myself playing the new album a loti've also been checking out some cool hardcore//metal combos, but not like the metalcore we usually rip on here. i've got into Nails (who are grindcore-y and also reminiscent of powerviolence) as well as Everything Went Black, who are like sludgy hardcore but with a black metal influence as well. they're both awesome

"I don't see you contributing anything dude... just sayin"That's because I kinda' gave up lol. Nobody appeared to be in the least bit interested in the bands I was talking about, and I didn't want to rain on your little metalcore parade (which I despise) so i figured I'd just step out and let you guys have fun.

dude Sykura makes fun of my poop musical tastes all the time, it's no big deal to state your opinion

Anyway I looked into Havok and Kreator today, and wasn't really thrilled with either, though Kreator holds some promise. I may get around to listening to them again some time.

Havok is another one of those thrash-revival bands, right? i've never been too into that scene (toxic holocaust and municipal waste are about it for me) but i'm gonna give them a listen anywayso i know you don't like harsh vocals but i was thinking you should check out the bands skeletonwitch and goatwhore. both play a sort of blackened thrash metal, so you might be able to use them as a gateway into harsher vox if you're willing Edited by Idunnolol
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see i like metal for the totally opposite reason - it's incredibly silly. i'd find it hard to look at the whole black metal scene and not find it hilarious

I feel that black metal depends on how you look at it. I mean, Dead drank his own blood and wanted to look like a corpse -- sure, he was mentally unstable, but by god did he love his art. All the corpsepaint and whatnot about these days is just a continuation of his legacy; trends develop in all forms of music. As for the lyrics, I despise religion and as such I like antitheistic music, but the Satanic propaganda seems a bit silly to me (as I do not believe in the Devil either). I do love the other nihlisitic, misanthropic, national socialist and generally dark lyrics associated with black metal, mainly because I feel the same way about a lot of these things too. Oh, and although I appreciate and understand the thought that goes behind recording your album in the heart of winter in a cave located within a misty Scandinavian forest at midnight whilst the wolves howl with nothing but a tape recorder, it still sounds terrible. Not "raw". Terrible.

i still have to check out Torture. decibel gave it high praise, and reception seems super positive. i'll listen to it tonight

Cannibal Corpse are hit-and-miss for me. Most of their records have some really good songs, but the majority are lacking. I am pretty exacting in standards when it comes to death metal, but even so, this is the first Cannibal Corpse album I would say that is solid throughout. Oh and I much prefer Corpsegrinder over Barnes, whilst we are at it.

i think that weird singing was on The Harvest Floor too, at least it was on the last track. not too big on it but if they keep it to a minimum i could see myself playing the new album a lot

No idea if it was on The Harvest Floor, but I can see it growing on me, even though I am iffy with it at the moment. It kind of reminds me of something Lord Worm would do, actually. (Especially seeing he is the vocalist for a melodic black metal/industrial band now...)

i've also been checking out some cool hardcore//metal combos, but not like the metalcore we usually rip on here. i've got into Nails (who are grindcore-y and also reminiscent of powerviolence) as well as Everything Went Black, who are like sludgy hardcore but with a black metal influence as well. they're both awesome

Funny, my two favourite (and in my opinion best) genres are deathgrind and goregrind. Both of which have a massive hardcore punk influence. So why is metal/deathcore so terrible?

dude Sykura makes fun of my poop musical tastes all the time, it's no big deal to state your opinion

No idea why, but I laughed so ###### hard at this.

so i know you don't like harsh vocals

Sacrilege!

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i just feel like the whole genre (like, all metal) is over-the-top in a good way. super gory album art and stuff along those lines are so crazy and ridiculous that it's almost humorous. but that what i find so lovable about the genre

Cannibal Corpse are hit-and-miss for me. Most of their records have some really good songs, but the majority are lacking. I am pretty exacting in standards when it comes to death metal, but even so, this is the first Cannibal Corpse album I would say that is solid throughout. Oh and I much prefer Corpsegrinder over Barnes, whilst we are at it.

i liked Kill but overall i'm not huge into CC. they're good and i'm seeing them live next month but i don't go crazy over them. i agree that Corpsegrinder > Barnes. his vocals have only got worse over time. six feet under is a joke now. they're awful.

No idea if it was on The Harvest Floor, but I can see it growing on me, even though I am iffy with it at the moment. It kind of reminds me of something Lord Worm would do, actually. (Especially seeing he is the vocalist for a melodic black metal/industrial band now...)

it's there (i decided to listen to it again) but it's not super prominent. what band is Lord Worm in these days, anyway?

Funny, my two favourite (and in my opinion best) genres are deathgrind and goregrind. Both of which have a massive hardcore punk influence. So why is metal/deathcore so terrible?

probably because it's super derivative and the bands all sound the same Edited by Idunnolol
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Skeletonwitch <3I actually considered getting Xin into them a while back, but decided against it cuz of the harsh vox, lul.

they are definitely a great band. i remember when i first listened to them and thought they were stupid and a terrible band. oh how my tastes have changed. blackthrash is easily one of my favorite trends in recent memory. strangely i always love bands with black metal influence but i have never gotten into straight up black metal. i'm hoping blackened hardcore catches on because it's a surprisingly great combo Edited by Idunnolol
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The more violent and disgusting it is, the better it is. Brutal death established that in the nineties. :P

i liked Kill but overall i'm not huge into CC. they're good and i'm seeing them live next month but i don't go crazy over them. i agree that Corpsegrinder > Barnes. his vocals have only got worse over time. six feet under is a joke now. they're awful.

Meh, Barnes was terrible with Cannibal Corpse anyway, if you ask me.

it's there (i decided to listen to it again) but it's not super prominent. what band is Lord Worm in these days, anyway?

Rage Nucléaire. Only got one song out: The Sorrow Children at Mourningside. The rest are unfinshed.

probably because it's super derivative and the bands all sound the same

Hahaha, I meant apart from the obvious.

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The more violent and disgusting it is, the better it is. Brutal death established that in the nineties. :P

true, true. the best covers are the ones that make people not want to speak to you lol

Meh, Barnes was terrible with Cannibal Corpse anyway, if you ask me.

hence why i said "worse" :P

Rage Nucléaire. Only got one song out: The Sorrow Children at Mourningside. The rest are unfinshed.

gotcha. industrial black metal is weird. have i mentioned Dawn of Ashes in this topic before?

I hope you listen to Celeste

i don't actually :/ checking them out soon though, because i've seen the cover for their latest album thrown around but never found out who they wereEDIT: okay this band is amazing thank you for this

Core sucks.Anyway, I'm trying to find more Thrash bands. But a lot of new ones suck. =/

that's just like, your opinion manalso as if i haven't mentioned them a million times in this topic already, municipal waste. also blackened thrash bands like skeletonwitch
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Core sucks.Anyway, I'm trying to find more Thrash bands. But a lot of new ones suck. =/

Indeed, core does suck. I thought we already agreed on that?Thrash? I Like Warbringer, Testament, Slayer, Megadeth, Exodus, Overkill, Death Angel, Kreator, Demolition Hammer, Annihilator, Onslaught, Artillery, Eternal Devastation (death/thrash), Sylosis (death/thrash), Vader (death/thrash), Final Breath (death/thrash)Versus Heaven (power/thrash), Dragonlord (symphonic black/thrash) and Trivium (thrash/metalcore).

true, true. the best covers are the ones that make people not want to speak to you lol

Oh the conversations I have had, haha. I always make them listen to the music, and get the lyrics up so that they know what they are saying. Their reactions are priceless.

hence why i said "worse" :P

Oh I see. Well played.

gotcha. industrial black metal is weird. have i mentioned Dawn of Ashes in this topic before?

Yeah, it is pretty messed up. But I am betting that Lord Worm will be able to produce something good. And I do not believe that you have.

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Thrash? I Like Warbringer, Testament, Slayer, Megadeth, Exodus, Overkill, Death Angel, Kreator, Sylosis (death/thrash),

Those are all the same I listen to. I nee to hear Sylosis' second album though. Conclusion of an Age was pretty brutal and awesome, but I feel if I have it a relisten my thoughts of it would be lower. Edited by Tenebrae Invictus

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"dude Sykura makes fun of my poop musical tastes all the time, it's no big deal to state your opinion"yeah but there's not much point 'cause every band you said (almost) I'd be all "it sucks. they suck. Hate them all". So it's better to just not say anything. :P I respect most bands even if I don't like them at all, though. Except Slipknot.Anyway I'll check out Skeletonwitch, though I really doubt I'll like them. And to be honest I don't mind harsh vocals, as long as they're offset with melodic ones as well. I just can't handle entire songs/albums/discographies of growling and screeching. I need more clean vocals metal, but it seems so hard to find. Though I could follow up on Helloween... =/Anyway, to go with the thrash thing, I like Megadeth, Death Angel, Metallica, Overkill, Gamma Bomb, and I quite enjoy Slayer, Testament, and Anthrax but hate equally as much of their stuff.

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"dude Sykura makes fun of my poop musical tastes all the time, it's no big deal to state your opinion"yeah but there's not much point 'cause every band you said (almost) I'd be all "it sucks. they suck. Hate them all". So it's better to just not say anything. :P I respect most bands even if I don't like them at all, though. Except Slipknot.

that is literally what he does xD also why single out Slipknot? they're more respectable then some bands imo (Limp Bizkit for example)
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"dude Sykura makes fun of my poop musical tastes all the time, it's no big deal to state your opinion"yeah but there's not much point 'cause every band you said (almost) I'd be all "it sucks. they suck. Hate them all". So it's better to just not say anything. :P I respect most bands even if I don't like them at all, though. Except Slipknot.

that is literally what he does xD also why single out Slipknot? they're more respectable then some bands imo (Limp Bizkit for example)
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I do love the other nihlisitic, misanthropic, national socialist lyrics...because I feel the same way about a lot of these things too.

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"dude Sykura makes fun of my poop musical tastes all the time, it's no big deal to state your opinion"yeah but there's not much point 'cause every band you said (almost) I'd be all "it sucks. they suck. Hate them all". So it's better to just not say anything. :P I respect most bands even if I don't like them at all, though. Except Slipknot.

that is literally what he does xD also why single out Slipknot? they're more respectable then some bands imo (Limp Bizkit for example)
Yes, Idunnolol has an appalling taste in music, (in my opinion) and I let it be known. I see no problems with that. Oh and I disagree with your Slipknot comment; they are one of my favourite bands and I consider them to be metal. Deal. Aren't opinions fun? :P@Tenebrae Invictus: I think the only improvement to be done on Conclusion of an Age is the addition of more clean vocals, but that is just me.

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@Tenebrae Invictus: I think the only improvement to be done on Conclusion of an Age is the addition of more clean vocals, but that is just me.

Eh, I didn't mind the vocals for the most part, but the hXC-ness of the album made me feel like it was awesome, but lacked any good replay value or a single track to pick out. Then again, I listened to Conclusion around 2 in the morning.

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I do love the other nihlisitic, misanthropic, national socialist lyrics...because I feel the same way about a lot of these things too.

...I SEE.ಠ_ಠ
Yes, that is correct. Do some research and tell me it is wrong. By all means, PM me to talk about it if you are that interested.
sup bros, let's keep the politics out of here, aight?also do you actually like Slipknot? if cool if you do but i find that hard to believe haha
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I do love the other nihlisitic, misanthropic, national socialist lyrics...because I feel the same way about a lot of these things too.

...I SEE.ಠ_ಠ
Yes, that is correct. Do some research and tell me it is wrong. By all means, PM me to talk about it if you are that interested.
sup bros, let's keep the politics out of here, aight?also do you actually like Slipknot? if cool if you do but i find that hard to believe haha
Hence why I said to PM me. :PAnd yes, I absolutely love Slipknot. (It is okay, I know it is weird) They were the first band with harsh vocals that I liked; without them I probably would not be into half the death I am into now. Oh and I stand by my claim that Corey Taylor has one of the best clean singing voices of all time.

Eh, I didn't mind the vocals for the most part, but the hXC-ness of the album made me feel like it was awesome, but lacked any good replay value or a single track to pick out. Then again, I listened to Conclusion around 2 in the morning.

hxc? I am not sure what this means. Yeah I get what you are saying. Listen to it again at a more godly hour and you might change your mind, haha. Edited by -Sykura-

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Hence why I said to PM me. :PAnd yes, I absolutely love Slipknot. (It is okay, I know it is weird) They were the first band with harsh vocals that I liked; without them I probably would not be into half the death I am into now. Oh and I stand by my claim that Corey Taylor has one of the best clean singing voices of all time.

gotcha.and that is cool, i mean we all have bands like that. System Of A Down was my gateway band so they hold a place in my heart even though my tastes have shifted majorly.

hxc? I am not sure what this means. Yeah I get what you are saying. Listen to it again at a more godly hour and you might change your mind, haha.

hxc is an abbreviation for hardcore. i really liked edge of the earth by them, should i check out the first album?

So I got a $10 Amazon gift card. Should I get Gothic by Paradise Lost, or one of the three Katatonia albums I'm missing?

depends. what katatonia albums do you not have? Edited by Idunnolol
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gotcha.and that is cool, i mean we all have bands like that. System Of A Down was my gateway band so they hold a place in my heart even though my tastes have shifted majorly.

Yeah, I know. I know Slipknot are relatively mainstream and all that, but all the same they seem more metal-orientated than the rest of the nu metal/core disasters out there. But then again it is hypocritical of me to say that seeing as I hate on deathcore all the time. Which brings me to your next comment: It is a shame that your tastes have not shifted for the better. :P

hxc is an abbreviation for hardcore. i really liked edge of the earth by them, should i check out the first album?

Oh I see. Well, I would not call melodic death/thrash "hardcore" as such. Unless you are referring to hardcore as in punk, in which case I am completely clueless, haha. Edited by -Sykura-

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hxc is an abbreviation for hardcore. i really liked edge of the earth by them, should i check out the first album?

Oh I see. Well, I would not call melodic death/thrash "hardcore" as such. Unless you are referring to hardcore as in punk, in which case I am completely clueless, haha.
When I use hardcore, I don't mean it as a style, just that it's... intense.... something along those lines.

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