It seems you and I must be talking around something, because you seem to think that by making points like this you're somehow disagreeing with me, but you're really just saying the point I've been making, with a different emphasis.Again, lemme say it again the way I said it several times already now, so that it's crystal clear this is agreement, okay?Using the bold changes that they did (that were applied to changing from Bionicle to HF -- from ending Bionicle and starting HF) would have been a waste if done in Bionicle. This is why it was wise to save them for doing something new.Got it? :)I've gone into detail already as to why it would be a waste, so hopefully you haven't missed that (about how it still would have been less effective because it wouldn't feel as new, etc.) This is agreement. Yeah?[/Edit]
Making a new theme is different than just making a new year for an existing theme.
It feels like that to you because of how your tastes make you weigh value. It would feel that way if you were to say it. I say it because with my tastes, it helps me appreciate Hero Factory.Also, don't miss that I said it in response to someone who was apparently expressing a negative reaction towards HF's style. If, with entertainment, someone is having a bad reaction, then a suggestion to change their perspective might help them. :)But if it doesn't help you, that's fine -- in such a case, it's basically "not for you", as they say. ^_^Why?Because anything that is done in entertainment is both a positive and a negative, depending on who views it, since we have different tastes. This is the answer to the question, how can something be a flaw and a good thing at the same time. Do you see what I'm saying? It's good to people who have one perspective, bad to others. So I think it's wise to try to find a perspective that helps enjoy entertainment, for your tastes.Yeah? ^^,
I still feel saying Hero Factory is essentially BIONICLE "renamed" when they were developed independent of one another really feels like it's undervaluing the work that went into making Hero Factory
No offense intended, rather, hopefully a possible insight that might help, since you said you were already having this negative reaction to things people have been saying. And I haven't seen anyone else having such a strong emotional reaction as you have. Chances are that's no coincidence. ^_^Also, psychology is always in everything we all say -- there's an absolute for you. We can misunderstand which psychology is at play, and if I did that's fine; it's just something that you can consider, and only you can; it's your brain. But psychology is always in the discussion, and IMO it would be unhealthy to blind ourselves to that.
As for the psychobabble, the whole twin thing didn't even occur to me until I was making that post, I just used it to reinforce the comparison. If there is some kind of connection there, it is 100% subconscious. I would appreciate if you didn't try to read psychology into this discussion at all in the future, because I find that kind of suggestion somewhat insulting, even if it wasn't meant as an insult.
I think you're overthinking this one, Aanchir. Just relax and think about it. And I don't know what to make of this half-renamed idea. You were the one who said things like that, not me; I don't know what that means. Anyhow, I already conceded your rewording in your previous post was better than mine, so why continue arguing over it? The horse is dead, lol. :PThat is to say, your rewording is better in your tastes. In mine I like the idea of seeing HF as sort of a renaming (but not totally). We don't have to agree on this because it's a preference thing. :)Edit: You know what, though -- I'm missing the biggest point I should be making here about this whole "essentially renamed" thing. Which is that, you actually seemed to have taken it as an insult towards Hero Factory. I didn't quite catch that before -- it seemed like you were somehow taking it personally, which I couldn't understand. But it's a compliment! I love Bionicle! I'm quite possibly the biggest Bionicle fan in the world, man. For me to say something is so good it is essentially Bionicle renamed is about the biggest praise I can think of. That's why it just does not compute for me that this could be taken negatively.Does that help clarify things? :)Also, it may help to add that many of the differences I like too, and think they actually are improvements over Bionicle. But anywho...
How does the word essentially make "X is essentially Y renamed" not an absolute? Sure, that's what the word is intended for, but it doesn't work in that context, because as I explained something can't be half-renamed from something else.
Edited by bonesiii, Apr 05 2012 - 12:00 AM.