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#1 Offline lasqur

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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 12:22 PM

What would happen if these great mask either were near each other or if someone tried to merge them.

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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 12:55 PM

I don't think anything would happen if they came near each other. The process of reforging them into one would probably release their energies just as breaking them would. That would of course really mess things up inside the MU, and possibly be dangerous outside it too. I don't think any one mask could hold the power of all three of them, anyway.
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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 01:04 PM

I would tell you what I think, but it would spoil an epic I'm planning. :P But I think if you did combine them, it would be apocalyptic proportions.EDIT: Kanohi Kaita.

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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 01:11 PM

The Kanohi Chukkanorris, mask of whatever it feels like doing at the moment.
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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 01:27 PM

I've actually never thought about it before. Maybe if the Great Beings were present and helping the process (with the Ignika's permission, of course), then I suspect that the three powers would merge to create something along the lines of a Mask of Reality: Something so powerful that it's destruction could affect the world outside the MU, perhaps... Something that could do anything it wanted... Such power....

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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 02:08 PM

Proximity would not do much. Fusing them, I imagine, would be an incredibly tricky process. Even if it was successful, I doubt the protodermis could handle that much power in such a small size, and it would collapse into a black hole :P
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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 02:51 PM

I think that it is impossible to merge them into a single Kanohi, since they're too much powerful to be sustained by a single mask all together. However, if it is possible, I suppose there would be some monstrous come-back, like a massive pulse of energy.
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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 02:55 PM

I don't think that a mask fusion would be the same as breaking one of them. The Vahi and Ignika are well-defined in the storyline as having special properties, and I don't think the Ignika's consciousness would like to get fused.But if it did happen, I support the Chukkanorris theory.
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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 03:31 PM

But if it did happen, I support the Chukkanorris theory.

That's not going to become a thing now, is it? Oh geez.For the record I support that as well (like what 1st Shadow suggested), but likely with a different name...

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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 03:38 PM

A mask of reallity cool :)Fusing would work, i think but only if the great beings did it or by energised protodermis
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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 03:43 PM

I don't think that a mask fusion would be the same as breaking one of them. The Vahi and Ignika are well-defined in the storyline as having special properties, and I don't think the Ignika's consciousness would like to get fused.But if it did happen, I support the Chukkanorris theory.

Yeah, I think it would depend on the method by which they were fused. Something like the Spear of Fusion might do it safely (not counting the issue of one mask not being able to handle all that power) but melting the masks down to reforge them into one would probably count as breaking them. The Vahi and Mask of Creation don't have minds of their own, so the resulting mask would probably have the mind of the Ignika (and at this point, Mata Nui).But I'm thinking if a Legendary mask power can't be stored in a Noble Mask, no Kanohi could hold all three.

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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 06:16 PM

Yeah, I think it would depend on the method by which they were fused. Something like the Spear of Fusion might do it safely (not counting the issue of one mask not being able to handle all that power) but melting the masks down to reforge them into one would probably count as breaking them. The Vahi and Mask of Creation don't have minds of their own, so the resulting mask would probably have the mind of the Ignika (and at this point, Mata Nui).But I'm thinking if a Legendary mask power can't be stored in a Noble Mask, no Kanohi could hold all three.

Well, you're right, but what if it then transcended Legendary status and became something like, eh, an Omnipotent Mask? I dunno, just throwing it out there. It could probably only be wielded by someone with GB-level mental ability to avoid being overwhelmed by the senses of everything rushing in.

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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 07:00 PM

What makes you think a GB can wear a mask to begin with?
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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 07:04 PM

I didn't say that, and they probably can't. I just meant that the hypothetical wearer would have to be immensely mentally powerful (and maybe physically as well).
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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 07:15 PM

Ah! So, could Mata Nui wear such a mask should it exist?
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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 07:33 PM

That's possible. He is, after all, an extremely complex AI.Maybe Tren Krom could control it if he possessed someone who was wearing it?This is all hypothetical, of course, considering no such mask exists in canon, nor anywhere else that I'm aware of... :lol:
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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 07:39 PM

That's possible. He is, after all, an extremely complex AI.Maybe Tren Krom could control it if he possessed someone who was wearing it?This is all hypothetical, of course, considering no such mask exists in canon, nor anywhere else that I'm aware of... :lol:

Oh, I want to tell you so much but I can't. So I won't :P. But know that I have already thought of a scenario where an even more powerful mask went haywire, but it would, again, spoil an epic I have not yet written. So if TK possessed someone like he did Lewa... depends. Is he as powerful as Mata Nui?

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Posted Nov 22 2012 - 11:55 PM

I'd be more worried about fusing the Mask of Transdimensional Gates, the Mask of Time, and the Mask of Creation to create some sort of infinite-powered mask of travelling anywhere, anytime (Mask of Creation used as a power source): The Kanohi TARDIS.
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Posted Nov 23 2012 - 03:39 PM

A good point has been made. Would such a mask even be considered a Legendary Mask? Or would it have transcended all recognizable titles? I actually don't even think anyone would be able to handle its power. Remember, it took MN a while to master the Ignika, so who's to say that so much power at once wouldn't destroy his mind? If such a mask could exist, it's wearer would essentially become the god of their universe. Like Q from Star Trek, but maybe more powerful. I'm thinking it would have to create a body for itself. With power beyond the Ignika's, this would be a task as easy as breathing, I would think.

Oh, I want to tell you so much but I can't. So I won't :P. But know that I have already thought of a scenario where an even more powerful mask went haywire, but it would, again, spoil an epic I have not yet written.

I'm gonna have to read this epic of yours...

I'd be more worried about fusing the Mask of Transdimensional Gates, the Mask of Time, and the Mask of Creation to create some sort of infinite-powered mask of travelling anywhere, anytime (Mask of Creation used as a power source): The Kanohi TARDIS.

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Posted Nov 23 2012 - 03:50 PM

A good point has been made. Would such a mask even be considered a Legendary Mask? Or would it have transcended all recognizable titles? I actually don't even think anyone would be able to handle its power. Remember, it took MN a while to master the Ignika, so who's to say that so much power at once wouldn't destroy his mind? If such a mask could exist, it's wearer would essentially become the god of their universe. Like Q from Star Trek, but maybe more powerful. I'm thinking it would have to create a body for itself. With power beyond the Ignika's, this would be a task as easy as breathing, I would think.

Oh, I want to tell you so much but I can't. So I won't :P. But know that I have already thought of a scenario where an even more powerful mask went haywire, but it would, again, spoil an epic I have not yet written.

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Posted Nov 23 2012 - 04:12 PM

What if it even went to a point beyond our reality? What if it birthed another universe? Another dimension?@The First Shadow It'll be awhile. A LONG while (I have big plans).

Yeah, I had considered that possibility, too. I have no doubt such a thing could do that. And could such a thing tear a hole into our dimension? I like to think something with that kind of power could do that with ease.(Well, keep me posted on that, in any case. You've already made it sound too interesting.)Posted Image

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Posted Nov 23 2012 - 10:52 PM

I'm thinking it would have to create a body for itself. With power beyond the Ignika's, this would be a task as easy as breathing, I would think.

No... it would just be an omnipotent sentience housed in the mask. It wouldn't need anything else. Kinda like a hooloovoo crossed with Lord English and Majora's Mask.Yes, I do know how strange a combination that is.

I'd be more worried about fusing the Mask of Transdimensional Gates, the Mask of Time, and the Mask of Creation to create some sort of infinite-powered mask of travelling anywhere, anytime (Mask of Creation used as a power source): The Kanohi TARDIS.

Dude. That just made my night! I'm guessing only the Doctor would know how to control its power, though?

Probably a Toa of Time or something, known only as the Doctor, combatting the genocidal Dalek-Kal (which shout EXTERMINATE) and the evil Makuta called the Master...Please nobody write a story about that, it'd be awful.

And could such a thing tear a hole into our dimension? I like to think something with that kind of power could do that with ease.

Now now, we have to keep the fourth wall intact. This is, after all, Bionicle. (Though when I was about nine years old, I think I had a dream that in the Bionicle story, there was contact with humans.)

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Posted Nov 23 2012 - 11:03 PM

If someone actually merged these three masks, the entire (Matoran) universe would be destroyed into a lifeless, timeless uncreative void.In its place would be a being that would have the power to recreate that entire universe from that void.
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Posted Nov 23 2012 - 11:20 PM

I'd be more worried about fusing the Mask of Transdimensional Gates, the Mask of Time, and the Mask of Creation to create some sort of infinite-powered mask of travelling anywhere, anytime (Mask of Creation used as a power source): The Kanohi TARDIS.

Dude. That just made my night! I'm guessing only the Doctor would know how to control its power, though?

Probably a Toa of Time or something, known only as the Doctor, combatting the genocidal Dalek-Kal (which shout EXTERMINATE) and the evil Makuta called the Master...Please nobody write a story about that, it'd be awful.

Challenge Accepted... :sly:(Then again, with my track-record of incomplete stories, this may NEVER happen.)

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Posted Nov 23 2012 - 11:29 PM

If someone actually merged these three masks, the entire (Matoran) universe would be destroyed into a lifeless, timeless uncreative void.In its place would be a being that would have the power to recreate that entire universe from that void.

* cough Big Bang Two cough *

Challenge Accepted... :sly:(Then again, with my track-record of incomplete stories, this may NEVER happen.)

Oh no. I was serious when I said it'd likely turn out poorly. Two epic things tend to lose their epicness when fused. You can try, though.

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Posted Nov 23 2012 - 11:37 PM

I just want to point out my track record:I have two stories I'm "Working on" (and by "working on", I mean "I started it and now I have NO IDEA when I'll continue it"), one being based off of LEGO Island and loosely on the rest of the LEGO Metaverse, and the other... Well... Let's just say it has something to do with anamorphic equines and an insane godlike character voiced by John de Lancie (who also did Q from Star Trek).So yeah... this story may never see the light of day.
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Posted Nov 24 2012 - 03:16 PM

Probably a Toa of Time or something, known only as the Doctor, combatting the genocidal Dalek-Kal (which shout EXTERMINATE) and the evil Makuta called the Master...Please nobody write a story about that, it'd be awful.

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Posted Nov 24 2012 - 07:48 PM

Probably a Toa of Time or something, known only as the Doctor, combatting the genocidal Dalek-Kal (which shout EXTERMINATE) and the evil Makuta called the Master...Please nobody write a story about that, it'd be awful.

Challenge Accepted... :sly:(Then again, with my track-record of incomplete stories, this may NEVER happen.)

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Consider it done, then. Shadow, if you're implying that you'd like to help bring this DW/BIONICLE fic to life, PM me. I may have some ideas up my sleeve...And yes. It WILL be a comedy. :evilgrin:

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Posted Nov 25 2012 - 07:25 AM

Well nothing really would happen if they were all next to each other.Fusing them ... well ...It'd be bad for the MU.
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It would be funny if the Ignika used the Vahi as a guardian :P
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Posted Nov 25 2012 - 09:52 AM

If something did happen it would be awesome and THE most powerful mask in exsistance. But its likely nothing would happen if they just touched
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Posted Nov 25 2012 - 10:36 AM

It would be funny if the Ignika used the Vahi as a guardian :P

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Posted Nov 25 2012 - 12:06 PM

Assuming it didn't destroy the entire Universe, it would probably create a new world or something, given that this world would have Time, Life, and Creation.
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Posted Dec 02 2012 - 12:01 AM

Can I use this idea for a story I am making?


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Posted Dec 02 2012 - 06:22 AM

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Posted Dec 02 2012 - 06:00 PM

Can I use this idea for a story I am making?

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They'd make a light klink.

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Posted Dec 02 2012 - 06:38 PM

Mainly fusing the masks together.


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Posted Dec 02 2012 - 06:42 PM

[font="verdana, geneva, sans-serif;"][color=#808080;]Yeah, I don't see why that wouldn't be fine. It's not like we were the first ones to come up with the idea of fusing powerful Kanohi. Go for it! :)[/color][/font]


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Posted Dec 03 2012 - 07:29 AM

It would make a mask of order, I believe. Creation is a perfect result out of the chaosnof chance, the mask of time controls the order of.reality, and life is consciousness put onto order. But a Mask of Reality sounds good, too.
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[color=#ff0000;]Theoretically (also obviously  it would create the most powerful mask of all time.  A mask of reality.  [/color]

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