Jump to content

  • Log in with Facebook Log in with Twitter Log In with Google      Sign In   
  • Create Account

Welcome to BZPower!

Hi there, while we hope you enjoy browsing through the site, there's a lot more you can do if you register. The process is easy and you can use your Google, Facebook, or Twitter account to make it even faster. Some perks of joining include:
  • Create your own topics, participate in existing discussions, and vote in polls
  • Show off your creations, stories, art, music, and movies and play member and staff-run games
  • Enter contests to win free LEGO sets and other prizes, and vote to decide the winners
  • Participate in raffles, including exclusive raffles for new members, and win free LEGO sets
  • Send private messages to other members
  • Organize with other members to attend or send your MOCs to LEGO fan events all over the world
  • Much, much more!
Enjoy your visit!

Posted Image


Click to ToggleParticipate in our raffle!

Hi, Guest. Come take a look and participate in our raffle:

Chima 2014 Big Raffle
Chima 2014 New Member Raffle
Chima 2014 Little Raffle

Photo

MU inhabitant lifespan


  • Please log in to reply
14 replies to this topic

#1 Offline Equinox

Equinox
  • Members
  • Inhabitant

  • 4 posts
  •  

Posted Apr 22 2013 - 07:16 PM

I remember reading somewhere that the lifespan of an average MU inhabitant (I think the source said Matoran) was 100,000 years. Looking into the timeline of Bionicle, hasn't 100,000 years already/almost passed? So right as the Matoran/ MU beings begin a new life, they all drop dead from old age? This would be quite a way for Greg to explain a definite end.   "What happened to our favorite bionicle characters?"       "They all dropped dead." On a similar note, would Beings who were transformed/rebuilt have longer lifespans, like a sort of reset? For example: Toa, Turaga, the Toa Nuva and the Mata Nui Matoran? This brings up another question: Whats the average lifespan of an Agori/Glatorian?


  • 0

#2 Offline Dragonstar7

Dragonstar7
  • Members
  • Emerging Ice Warrior

  • 1,807 posts
  •  

Posted Apr 22 2013 - 09:01 PM

You know, I have a feeling it was discussed here. Don't post, though, it's dead and doing so will revive the topic, and get you into minor trouble. ;)

Edited by Takua Dragonstar7, Apr 22 2013 - 09:01 PM.

  • 0

#3 Offline bonesiii

bonesiii
  • Premier Member
  • Premier Forum Leaders
  • Perpetual Master of Reference

  • 18,182 posts
  •   BZP Leader

Posted Apr 23 2013 - 02:06 AM

No, what you heard was most likely merely the answer that their lifespans must be at least 100,000 years, since Takua is confirmed to be at least that old (and older). If by chance you did hear someone saying it was at most that time, they are incorrect, for the reason you say. We simply do not know what the upper cap on it is.In other words, you have apparently confused a statement of a minimum possibility (for average natural lifespan; of course anyone could die by other means earlier) for a maximum. Or perhaps someone else confused that and you heard them.We do not know whether transformations affect lifespan. Some things like the rapid aging of The Shadowed One by Voporak would shorten lifespans, though. A Mask of Aging could do that too.And similarly we don't know the maximum or average span for Agori/etc.All we know is that all these beings DO have maximums, and that there is an average maximum. With Agori/etc. they probably know it, but with MU beings it's possible that nobody has any idea, even the Great Beings, since the first individual in that group, Takua, is still alive.
  • 0

#4 Offline Katuko

Katuko
  • Premier Member
  • Premier Members
  • Mask of Light Unveiled

  • 5,037 posts
  •  

Posted Apr 23 2013 - 06:09 AM

Metal can be replaced, and MU inhabitants (at least Matoran) can have their tissue decay and then regrow (the Toa Mata post-canisters). People like Lariska have entirely mechanical limbs, so that seem to imply that her tissue did not regenerate quickly - or simply that the removal of the entire arm also removes the base of whatever might have regenerated.I see their lifespan as being limited only by how well they can avoid wear on their bodies. Regular use of replacement parts, tissue healing/regrowth and an avoidance of violent injuries should let them keep going for as long as they can.
  • 0

rahkshi_elite_banner5b.png
Updated February 2014: Added new attacks for Toa of Iron, Plant Life and Psionics!
[ What YOU can do to help develop BIONICLE Fighter! ]
Click here for my: Art | BZP Blog | WordPress Blog


#5 Offline takua123

takua123
  • Members
  • Lightning Voyager

  • 338 posts
  •  

Posted Apr 24 2013 - 11:59 AM

I don't know, but it could be that the lifespan of a MU inhabitant could just be until their destiny is fufiled. Maybe you are able to die once your destiny is complete.


  • 0

                                                 Tu2d6W7.jpg


#6 Offline Technus19

Technus19
  • Members
  • Tohunga

  • 20 posts
  •  

Posted Apr 24 2013 - 01:35 PM

Isnt that the point of Karzahni, to prevent matoran from breaking down and dying, so it can be assumed that they can live pretty long as long as they recive proper repairs, and takua/takanuva never really got hurt as a matoran so he could be considered as a baseline perfect matoran specimen.


  • 0

#7 Offline Dragonstar7

Dragonstar7
  • Members
  • Emerging Ice Warrior

  • 1,807 posts
  •  

Posted Apr 25 2013 - 08:59 PM

I don't know, but it could be that the lifespan of a MU inhabitant could just be until their destiny is fufiled. Maybe you are able to die once your destiny is complete.

Not really because when your destiny is fulfilled as a Toa, you can just choose to be a Turaga anytime. But it is likely, as in Journey's End that is answer to one of the riddles:

What do you seek?(Mata Nui)"I seek unity!"What is your burden?"Duty."What brings you life, and death?"Destiny"

I know it wasn't worded exactly like that, but vey similar. :)

  • 0

#8 Offline slifer3000

slifer3000
  • Members
  • Armored Protector

  • 311 posts
  •  

Posted Apr 29 2013 - 08:47 PM

Well the MU sat on SM for a few thousand years, like, twenty thousand right? And it has been filled with life since near day one. So Takua could be upwards near 110,000. 


  • 0

Want to know how to make a blind Toa cry?

                   

                       Give him a Kanohi Hau.

 

 


#9 Offline bonesiii

bonesiii
  • Premier Member
  • Premier Forum Leaders
  • Perpetual Master of Reference

  • 18,182 posts
  •   BZP Leader

Posted Apr 29 2013 - 08:58 PM

Well the MU sat on SM for a few thousand years, like, twenty thousand right? And it has been filled with life since near day one. So Takua could be upwards near 110,000. 

Where did you get that number from? (Mainly curious for sake of my history retelling.) BS01's timeline only says "100,000+ Years ago", without saying anything about how long the "plus" was, so I have had to avoid the issue, but got the sense it was much shorter than that.

 

As far as the timeline states, all we know is that it cannot have been more than 50,000 years since that's how long before the first number the prototype robot was built.


  • 0

#10 Offline gunconvoy

gunconvoy
  • Members
  • Turaga

  • 75 posts

Posted Apr 29 2013 - 10:53 PM

I always thought they were pretty much immortal, unless killed or broken. Much like machines.


  • 0

485585_528817960493060_1878734144_n.jpg


#11 Offline slifer3000

slifer3000
  • Members
  • Armored Protector

  • 311 posts
  •  

Posted Apr 30 2013 - 06:44 PM

Well the MU sat on SM for a few thousand years, like, twenty thousand right? And it has been filled with life since near day one. So Takua could be upwards near 110,000. 

Where did you get that number from? (Mainly curious for sake of my history retelling.) BS01's timeline only says "100,000+ Years ago", without saying anything about how long the "plus" was, so I have had to avoid the issue, but got the sense it was much shorter than that.

 

As far as the timeline states, all we know is that it cannot have been more than 50,000 years since that's how long before the first number the prototype robot was built.

The GS wasn't built in one day. My guess is it must've taken a few thousand years, probably 20,000. Just a guess though. We know that the Toa Mata are older than 100,000, bc they were in Karda-Nui before their slumber, meaning the GS was not awake. Also, Takua is a perfect example for lifespan of a Matoran, even if he is a Toa. He is at least 100,000+ years old.


  • 0

Want to know how to make a blind Toa cry?

                   

                       Give him a Kanohi Hau.

 

 


#12 Offline Fabulous Sunshine

Fabulous Sunshine
  • Members
  • Mahri Descending

  • 16,099 posts
  •  

Posted May 01 2013 - 04:47 AM

I usually assume they're pretty much functionally immortal until all the wear gets to them.

 

Or they get killed.


  • 0

"It’s not Yggdrasil or Helheim you’re facing, it’s the cold rule that says the world demands sacrifice in exchange of hope. Destroy that rule and change the world."

- D.J. Sagara

 

3DS Friend Code: 4012-5263-3146


#13 Offline Kopekemaster

Kopekemaster
  • Members
  • Exo-Armored Toa

  • 759 posts
  •  

Posted May 01 2013 - 07:21 AM

I usually assume they're pretty much functionally immortal until all the wear gets to them.

 

Or they get killed.

 

Yeah, that's how I thought of it as well. Seeing that no one has just "died". Instead they have been killed. 


  • 0

ezgif-save.gif

My Writing Blog (Updated frequently)

My Bionicle/LEGO Blog (Now, updated frequently[ish] again)

BZPower Chronicles, my BZP comedy.

Species, my dystopian Bionicle story and its respective Review Topic.


#14 Offline Fabulous Sunshine

Fabulous Sunshine
  • Members
  • Mahri Descending

  • 16,099 posts
  •  

Posted May 01 2013 - 07:39 AM

And dying prematurely wouldn't really help keep the robot working efficiently either.


  • 0

"It’s not Yggdrasil or Helheim you’re facing, it’s the cold rule that says the world demands sacrifice in exchange of hope. Destroy that rule and change the world."

- D.J. Sagara

 

3DS Friend Code: 4012-5263-3146


#15 Offline fishers64

fishers64
  • Premier Member
  • Premier Outstanding BZP Citizens
  • Mask of Time Discovered

  • 4,272 posts
  •   Outstanding BZPower Citizen

Posted May 01 2013 - 09:05 AM

And dying prematurely wouldn't really help keep the robot working efficiently either.

Explanation for the Red Star revelation, right there. Which sort of renders this whole discussion...weird.

 

I think the GBs designed the Matoran to "live until we no longer need them." It's kind of like "You will live until you finish our task, then you have permission to die. Oh, and you will probably will die, thanks to us."


Edited by fishers64, May 01 2013 - 09:06 AM.

  • 0




0 user(s) are browsing this forum

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users