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#5761 Offline The Nold

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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 08:56 PM

We'll,, yeah I think you might be. :/

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Psionics was banned waaaay before Dasaka existed.

Relatively speaking, I'm pretty new. I only joined sometime last spring/summer, if memory serves.

Regardless, I now feel reeeeeeeeeeeeeally stupid. :/

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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 09:11 PM

It's perfectly normal not to make a connection between such things.

 

Paying attention to the profile rules is so last story arc.

 

Dasaka pretty much fill in that empty Psionic slot for characters. I doubt they were planned from the very beginning.


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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 09:17 PM

That's it, we need to stop this or I swear sarcasm needs to become an actual sport for this topic.


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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 09:18 PM

One important thing to note is that Menti, at best, only control one or two (in rare cases three) aspects of their "element", whereas a Toa has power over every aspect of theirs. Of course, given just how versatile Psionics is, it's not a serious issue, but it's something to take note of.


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#5765 Offline The Nold

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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 09:38 PM

Which reminds me, it mentions somewhere that some ancient legends wielded all four disciplines. Perhaps these were true Toa of Psionics, which gradually devolved to the Dasaka we see today.

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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 09:42 PM

I don't think it was exactly that. Just the Heroes of Old were demigod-like in power, enough to warrant being legends.


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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 10:08 PM

Which reminds me, it mentions somewhere that some ancient legends wielded all four disciplines. Perhaps these were true Toa of Psionics, which gradually devolved to the Dasaka we see today.

:a: :k: :i:

Do I see a dasaka-maru happening?


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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 10:13 PM

Those combined would be as powerful, if not more than the Mata Nuiian Maru.


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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 10:25 PM

I also have a question.. Well more so have to ask opinion..
 
I and a group of characters have been in the Po-Koro headquarters since december 19th 2013.. We have contacted lloyd yet he has yet to respond so what would you guys do in that scenario? I mean i believe nearly two months of waiting is a bit much especially when we are waiting on just one person.

  

Waiting two months is nothing.  Send him another PM.  I'll see what I can do.  Lloyd's just been super busy.

  

And it's only been a month and two weeks.
 
And Nold, if by anyone you mean 'everyone but me', then yes.

We're stuck in prison, we can't really advance to the next stage of our plan unless we escape, which is less than ideal.

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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 10:25 PM

 

Which reminds me, it mentions somewhere that some ancient legends wielded all four disciplines. Perhaps these were true Toa of Psionics, which gradually devolved to the Dasaka we see today.

:a: :k: :i:

Do I see a dasaka-maru happening?

 

 

That would be interesting, but Destiny would have to have a role in that, and that's something the Dasaka don't hold to the same importance as the Matoran.


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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 10:47 PM

HFBEIGVWKVBEUVGDYSBFYXB!!!!!!!!!!!
I just realized something! "Toa," in the Matoran language, literally means "Hero." The Dasaka speak the same language as the Matoran. Thus, "Heroes of Old"...

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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 10:48 PM

Where have you been for the past three months.

 

In some Po-Wahi prison?


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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 11:05 PM

Where have you been for the past three months.
 
In some Po-Wahi prison?


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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 11:11 PM

Yup, some of us have been offline for a while.
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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 11:12 PM

I swear I love reading this topic just for the laughs.  Now, can we get more on topic please?

 

Any more ideas on the Vault riddle?


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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 11:26 PM

I'm starting to think Makuta is trying to troll us, as in the players, with the riddle, and it is the thing that is dividing the island. The riddle, I mean.
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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 11:29 PM

Well, the first half of the riddle seems to blatantly point to Kentoku, but I'm not sure about the latter half of it. Though if it is about the Dasaka, whoever wrote it must have known about them...

There could be something more to it, but it could be a troll all the same.

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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 11:45 PM

I highly doubt Nuju Metru and the rest of staff would use a major plot point to troll players.  Now, I could of course be wrong, but generally speaking if something is such a key plot element as the riddle...


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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 11:52 PM

It's not a troll.

 

It could be.

 

But it's not.

 

Probably.


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Posted Feb 02 2014 - 11:53 PM

The actual troll about it all is that the riddle doesn't even matter. It and the abettor are actually just fluff. You know what's in the vault?

A lifetime supply of twinkies.


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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 01:52 AM

Hmm.. very interesting post in the kini-nui topic Nuju metru.. Very interesting indeed. How come I have a feeling one of those voices are suppose to be makuta's?


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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 01:53 AM

It's been made fairly explicit in the earlier posts of the same nature that he made. Maybe that's why.

 

I'm still leaning towards the idea that one of the two is Zuto Nui, though.


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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 04:23 AM

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This post shows just how ruthless and somehow perfect he can be. He's a beautiful villain (to me) and I'm happy to say he's mine. <333


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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 06:25 AM

Ishi's in a tough spot. What will the intrepid informant do?
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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 08:05 AM



I highly doubt Nuju Metru and the rest of staff would use a major plot point to troll players.  Now, I could of course be wrong, but generally speaking if something is such a key plot element as the riddle...

 

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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 08:42 AM

Your mask has never made a mistake.

 

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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 09:26 AM

More Ferron stuff:

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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 10:08 AM

 

Your mask has never made a mistake.

 

Axxon?

 

 

Nah, it's probably a reference to the island of Mata Nui being Mata Nui's face.

 

Yes, I know BZPRPG doesn't follow the canon, but I'm still willing to bet the robot thing hasn't been changed.


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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 10:09 AM

The actual troll about it all is that the riddle doesn't even matter. It and the abettor are actually just fluff. You know what's in the vault?

A lifetime supply of twinkies.

I need that.


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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 10:11 AM

A mask.

 

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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 10:13 AM

Masks cover faces. The analogy works, imho.


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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 10:15 AM

It's the mask that can send things into the Legend, duh.

 

So, the question is... what's the 'replacement' for Makuta? The replacement that's said to be 'shirking' its role at the moment, but about which, the mask was not ('never') wrong, meaning that the replacement will soon be actively carrying out its role as expected?

 

Dasaka? Ambages? the Piraka? or something else?


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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 10:22 AM

Definitely not Ambages, for reasons plot and real world. The notable one being that he existed long before Makuta fell, the second being that he's a Staff PC.

Dasaka could be, but I still don't like the idea that an entire, centuries old civilization was conjured on a whim. Sorta invalidates their whole aesthetic.

What I find notable is that the second voice says "your mask". If we assume that he's talking about the Hiripiki, then the question is once again raised of who he is speaking to. It could be Mata Nui, as he gave the mask to Stannis, or it could be interpreted as implying that it's someone else.

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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 10:26 AM

I've always been under the impression that the 'two-voices-conversing' posts are Mata Nui and Makuta... but I guess I could be wrong.


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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 11:10 AM

I've always been under the impression that the 'two-voices-conversing' posts are Mata Nui and Makuta... but I guess I could be wrong.

 

The fact that this following sequence was said:

 


My flickering thumb has just found his claw.

Correct; I do not intend for him to open the true safe. That comes later.

 

Convinces me of it even more.

 

Flickering thumb and claw? Echelon and Antidermis (After all, leftie says "The calamity you bottled, regardless of its volume, cannot open windows."). Too bad it won't be him who opens the safe.

 

Dasaka could be, but I still don't like the idea that an entire, centuries old civilization was conjured on a whim. Sorta invalidates their whole aesthetic.

For all we know their centuries of history could've been something that played out in the Legend. 


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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 11:14 AM

Well, it would depend on just how the legend works. If it's essentially a parallel universe, then the Dasaka could have existed there for a long time and were brought over without them noticing.

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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 11:17 AM

Or the Dasaka were created with their history - none of it really happened, but they think it did.


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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 11:38 AM

Or the Dasaka were created with their history - none of it really happened, but they think it did.


This is exactly what I fear and what I would hate.

If it played out in the Legend, that's fine. But it all depends on what the Legend is. If it's an alternate world, or multiple alternate worlds, it could very well have happened, and they just changed locale. But if the Legend is fiction and merely creates what comes out at will, that's a far more distasteful possibility.

I won't like it if they came from the Legend either way; I think it cheapens their existence for them to be the result of a newbie Toa playing around with his mask. I just find the former possibility a bit more palatable.

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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 12:02 PM

Or the Dasaka were created with their history - none of it really happened, but they think it did.

I was thinking that they where pulled form a different universe.


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Posted Feb 03 2014 - 12:11 PM

The Dasaka existed in the current universe all along.

(Probably.)

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