I know that this is long, but it is very important to me and everyone I have spoken with about it. Please read it and reply posting feedback, negative or positive. If you like the idea, then go here.

I started this topic as an idea I had after seeing so many member’s replies to the new sets and after speaking to my friends about the upcoming storyline. It seems as though what a lot of people want are NEW MATORAN. So I had this set idea:

DESIGN
One set is made for each village. The sets are called “Ko-Matoran,” “Le-Matoran,” “Ga-Matoran,” etc. Each set comes with the pieces to make three Matoran. For instance, take the “Ta-Matoran” set. It comes with pieces to make a set of red, orange, and yellow bodies as well as red, orange, and yellow feet. Also three masks (I will explain these later on). For anyone who does not know how to do combinations, this set can make 3 x 3 x 3 = 27 different Matoran, but only three at one time. Here are the different sets and colors they would include for feet, bodies, and masks.

Ko-Matoran
White (Kopaka mask color)
Light gray (Nuju mask color)
Sand blue (Matoro mask color)

Ga-Matoran
Bright blue (Gali mask color)
Medium blue (Nokama mask color)
Dark blue (Hahli feet color)

Le-Matoran
Green (Lewa mask color)
Light green (Matau mask color)
Teal (Kongu mask color)

Po-Matoran
Brown (Pohatu mask color)
Tan (Onewa mask color)
Burnt orange (Hewkii mask color)

Ta-Matoran
Red (Tahu mask color)
Orange (Vakama mask color)
Yellow (Jaller mask color)

Onu-Matoran
Black (Onua mask color)
Dark gray (Whenua mask color)
Purple (Onepu mask color)

COLLECTIBLE
Each set would come with three masks. The Ta-Matoran set described above would come with one random red Noble mask, one random orange Great mask, and one random yellow mask of any design. This would make it possible to achieve collections of complete red, orange, and yellow masks. Many have been clamoring for Matoran Mask Packs, but I personally thought they would never catch on. But they would be right at home here.

CREATIVITY
With this set, many different Matoran – all of them, in fact – would be possible to make. Haven’t all of us always wanted to make our own Tamaru, Kotu, or new style Onepu and Kongu? These sets would make it possible. I have already stated that 27 Matoran can be made from each set. Imagine if you have all six villages. That is 27 x 27 x 27 x 27 x 27 x 27 Matoran possible. It comes out to 387,420,489 Matoran. And then, just imagine, you add some additional masks from your own collection. 387,420,489 x 5 = … You get the idea. Billions of Matoran are possible. This set caters to all.
MOCers – Lots of new colored parts including hip joints, Bohrok arms, Matoran feet, and masks. Many new pieces at a cheap price.
Storyline-followers – I know that a lot of people really want to have real official Matoran in their games. And now that the MNOLG2 is up, this point becomes extremely relevant, with almost 100 real named Matoran to make.
Players – Extreme playability is offered with these sets. In addition to creating and mixing their own personal characters, the versatile pieces and colors in the sets would surely lead to many great creations.
Collectors – These sets would offer 144 new Kanohi to collect. (12+6+6 in each set, six sets). Because they would be so hard to get, there would be a roaring trade for them in the marketplaces. Masks like lime green Miru, orange Kakama, and yellow Matatu would be traded.

PROFIT FOR LEGO
Face it – Lego is losing money. These sets would be an excellent way to get back money. Each normal Matoran costs $3.99. These sets would have three Matoran and cost $14.99. They would also not include Kolhii Staffs, so Lego would save on that too. The extra money in each set would cover the cost of making old pieces in new colors. I am sure that fans would be eager to pay $3.00 more if they got lots of new colors. As a bonus, each set would come with instructions with a Matoran Kaita. Many kids would buy multiples of the set for MOCs or villages, or to collect and trade more of the masks. The key to this is NEW MASKS – we kids are intelligent. We know when a mask is recycled, and know that generally more different ones is better.

We have all seen the 2004 Matoran. And we want Lego to know that dazzling us with odd new pieces is not the answer. Many of us have not gotten the 2003 Matoran yet, and now have to worry about new ones. These sets are the answer. New masks and colors for us, less new molds and more money for Lego.

Help yourself and help Lego. Vote HERE to show support. CONTACT Lego to tell them what you want - explain the importance of Matoran. It is important that they get feedback and know what we want. We need to help Lego help us, so that they can help themselves.

This post has been edited by Gukko: Nov 27 2003, 08:51 PM

That is a really good (And long) idea! I would love for Lego to make those! Those would be the coolest sets ever!

Thanks - I thought I would get this response! It is entirely possible for Lego to do this, and I think it would make them a lot of money to boot! Did you remember to vote in the poll topic?

Yes, but there has been alot of talk about matoran packs or kits for a long, long time. But there has been few people have made such detailed explaination on the topic.
Yes but you should realize that some people want the kohlii sticks with their matoran altought I don't quite like them, but whats a 2003 matoran without kohlii sticks? But then the amount stated in the tiltle is how many combinations you can make and not how many combinations at a time.
I would like to see this instead of the standard mask packs and matoran. But I would prefer the two color 2004 matoran masks to the 2003 one color masks.

Ahhhh, a petition, of sorts. I support your theory all the way, Gukko. I'm just wonderig if it's alright to post such a thing here... seems doable, so let's go with it. I'm not sure Lego would be too ken on entire Matoran SETS like that, but let's face it, we need more parts to make more custom Matoran. I've heard a lot of ideas on doing so, such as "make your own Matoran" setups in stores and such, but at their core, all these ideas mean the same thing, and therefore, they're all valid. You've got the support of me, and all my buddies at the Onu-Koro Reasearch and Development boxor Corps. (which is really just a small handful of customized Matoran figures).

There are 12 masks that a lot of collectors would NOT want to see in these sets. The misprints. They went to a lot of trouble and expense to get them.
Other than that, I like the idea. I'd like to have a new-style Tamaru and Nuparu, and I'd like to be able to make some of the Matoran from the two Online Games.

- ToP

I dunno, some Expanded Universe Matoran would be nice...

just think how many Scohu lovers we'd get by the end of the sale!

Also, destroy 2004's design, and we'd be fine... so would this be 2003?

overall, I'd buy many Boxes's so I can MOC a new image: Scohu Mastra vs Agent Scohu and Matoran!

edit: oops, now I'm getting this...

so I edited the post

This post has been edited by Swert109 Mastra: Nov 10 2003, 12:31 AM

Good idea, I'd be behind you all the way! I only have *two* lonely matorans but I asked all my friends at school(primary school, luckily) and they're all giving me their MCtorans but in OZ we might not get 2003 matorans. But really really good idea there Gukko

I'd rather have the new Metru Nui matoran

That's a great idea! Think of all the possibility's.

1. Mix and match any Matoran you want!
2. Collect the Kanohi in an easy way!
3. Make Matoran from the MNOLG2, etc!
4. Finally get the chance to make Tamaru, Onepu, etc!

I think it's a great idea! And I would buy alot of those sets! So I voted in you Poll for "Over the 6 sets". In my opinion, this is the best idea ever! Not including butter!

XLM
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I'd hate to disagree with the crowd but i don't like the idea.

Remember the master builder set? We had alot of fun when we found out you can only build one modle at a time. Even worse if it's matoran they keep the same shape! You'll be pulling apart a matoran only to build another one with a different colour and mask.

Without standardised masks who is to say that you'll get a light green rau to build a tamaru? If that was your only aim then you just waisted $15!

well that's just my point of view.

ps: 387,420,489 matoran would cost $90 if they are to sell for $15 each

This post has been edited by dangerous: Nov 10 2003, 06:08 AM

Yeah, I've heard of the mataron set idea before but are you tralking about newtypew m,ataron, mctoran or 2004 mataron. It seems like your talking about mertu mataron and they really are lacking. I don't care for them too much.

Sorry about the confusion everyone. This is 2003 Matoran I'm talking about.

Yes, I know that the misprints would anger many people. But Lego did it with Hafu and the Bionicle clock. Why shouldn't they do it again?

And to dangerous, I still think that the Master Builder set is one of the best. And this set would be able to make 3 Matoran at a time, not one.

And also the $60.00 is a typo. I know it's supposed to be $90.00.

that is a good idea. however, the stuff you wrote is incredibly long. lego should do that.

I think it's a great idea.

The reason it is so long is because I want to have a real idea! Not something like

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oh you no lego shoud make matrn packs it wud be good right? do you think yes or no?

I want something that will be taken seriously. These sets are entirely possible and I know it's impossible, but I would want a Lego employee to see this and think "Hey, maybe that kid's onto something." I wanted my idea to be well thought-out, not a sloppy statement. That is why it is so long, to everyone who has already mentioned that.

i like the idea except for random masks because then they are just non exsintent matoran if they made it they should have ones that are used in the storyline

I personally haven't gotten the 2003 Matoran and am not planning on it. The 2003 Matoran play no particular role in the story and therefore make no sense to buy. For that reason I personally wouldn't be interested. I actually am looking forward to the 2004 Matoran because not only do they play a crucial role in the story line, but they also are quite cool. Honestly there's not much denying that the 2003 Matoran don't do much, and without a story for them, what's the point?

Some sorta master builder thing...

Yes, I would love that

-Rah

QUOTE (twilite @ Nov 10 2003, 10:17 PM)

The 2003 Matoran play no particular role in the story and therefore make no sense to buy. I actually am looking forward to the 2004 Matoran because not only do they play a crucial role in the story line, but they also are quite cool. Honestly there's not much denying that the 2003 Matoran don't do much, and without a story for them, what's the point?

You're forgetting two very important things: (1) MNOLG2, and (2) '04 Matoran = past, '03 Matoran = future. We are not done with '03 Matoran.

Gukko, I totally agree with this idea. Oh, how I've wished I had certain colored pieces to work with! Still, I think $15 is a bit too pricey for 3 Matoran. It should be $12 tops. And the mask idea...eh, don't you think that would be a bit...annoying? Not being able to collect all the masks without paying a minimum of $540? Hmm...that's a tough one.

Other than a couple small things I think should be changed, I love the idea!

That sounds cool except for the masks. Lego would probably not like the idea of having to make a whole new mask colors. I like the idea- but... I doubt they would do that. But otherwise, I think Lego should do something like that. But, it might be too expensive anyway. Great Idea.

That is a really good idea, Gukko! I have always wanted to make my own custom Matoran. But...$60.00? Did I read that right? If it were true, I would buy them all. But I don't think Lego would bother making so many different masks and parts.

<I~S>

Actually, you did your math wrong. It would be 27 x 6 = 162. With six masks each, it would come out to 162 x 6 = 972. Still alot of matoran, but not nearly as much.

Actually, doomman50, that is the equation to see how many different matoran you can make AS LONG AS they are in their village colours. (as in only black, only green, only...) 27 to the power of 6 is the proper way to go about it as it includes the fact that you can mix up the colours (black with blue and green etc) One good thing for being friends with the god of Maths!

I'd pay $100 for some set like this! It would be soo cool to be able to make all possible matoran!

nice idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!

id love to have villages and new masks and new coloured pieces and... whoah that would just be awesome


you should talk to lego about this

That is such a good idea! Finally, the Le-matoran could face my Macku and Hahli! And everyone would end up getting their own different matoran than other people. Every box would be different! But actually I think 2 kolhii sticks and 1 ball should come with every set. I might buy the Le-Koro one if it ever came out!

Wow, lots of replies. . . I thought that the "many masks" idea was good because the value would rise. Because these sets would make the misprints more common, there should still be rare ones. And the reason they cost $15.00 and not $12.00 is because Lego would have to work with peices in new colors and the extra money would hep cover those costs. But I guess it does seem right to add Kolhii Staffs to the sets.

I hope you're all voting in the poll! I'm trying to get as accurate a view as possible, because I'm going to email Lego the results of their popularity. That is also why I made the original idea so large.

Hopefully, one person can make a difference.

QUOTE (doomman50 @ Nov 11 2003, 12:18 AM)

Actually, you did your math wrong. It would be 27 x 6 = 162. With six masks each, it would come out to 162 x 6 = 972. Still alot of matoran, but not nearly as much.

Actually, it is 27x27x27x27x27x27, because you could combine the sets to make it more interesting, as in Nuri (a Ta-Matoran in MNOLGII) or Tamaru's case, as they have colors from other Koros.

<I~S>

that would be kool and if lego maid them i would by them all

I support you all da way!!!

I think, though, that they should come with primary color great mask, secondary color noble mask, and terchery color great mask(Bright blue Kaukau, medium blue Rau, dark blue Kaukau). For more masks you would buy Matoran mask packs that came sorthed by village(Ga-Matoran mask pack, Le-Matoran mask pack, etc.), that came with one random primary , secondary, and terchery color mask, either great or noble.

By the way, the Matoran kit masks wouldn't be random(The great masks would match their respective Toa, and the noble masks the Turaga(i.e. Yellow Hau, Orange Huna)

What a fabulous idea you have, Gukko!

Hey that is really smart! That is a great idea.

That is a great idea. I love mask collecting, I would collect every single one! I hope this happens!

Have any of you actually emailed Lego about this? I think if they got this many responses they would consider this idea. If everyone who posted before emailed Lego, it would really make a difference. I'm going to email Lego even if nobody else does, but it would be nice if I wasn't alone.

LEGO NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT THE FANS WANT!

I really like the idea. The thought of dozens of new masks, while somewhat overwhelming, is great, and I loved the '03 Matoran. They're one of my favorite sets, and I've wanted to make both custom and MNOLG2 ones for awhile, and this set would help.
I'm going to e-mail LEGO right away!

This post has been edited by unduli: Nov 11 2003, 07:31 PM

Oooooooooh YEAH! I adore this idea! Can you imagine (okay, yes you can) they humongous, endless possibilities this would unleash? It would be superfluous! Every single Matoran combination would now be possible, plus there would be a ton of collectibles! Come on, Lego! It's a good idea!!!

One thing I forgot to say - I think that the masks that are originally misprints should not be available in the set - meaning that the green (Lewa color) masks would only be available as Rau, Mahiki, Huna and Komau, etc.

That sounds like A good Idea,And I would buy a couple packs.

I dont like the Random mask thing.But I would probably just buy some masks from BST and use those...

Kopa

Wow! That's a great theory! How long did it take you to think that up?

MT-

I think Lego should hire you, Gukko.
Excellent idea, although I wouldn't buy more than 6, I would definitely by the six different sets.

QUOTE (Alaskanuva @ Nov 12 2003, 05:01 AM)

I think Lego should hire you, Gukko.

That is my fondest dream and life's goal. Maybe, someday. I would love to work for Lego but the only thing I can do now is practice my modest building skills.

EDIT: Modest? Never mind. I just saw the Toa Metru. I could design better than those!

This post has been edited by Gukko: Nov 12 2003, 08:00 PM