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Feb 6 2007, 09:54 PM
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![]() Flying Force! ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2313 Joined: 8-July 03 Member No.: 11480
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Alright, it's always been a little voice at the back of my head here, but I think it's time I really offered up some info on properly photographing LEGO. So first, let's ask WHY I decided to post this, what's wrong with your photography now?
So my first bit of advice before I give a long winded article: Step back, and turn off the flash. Section 1.0: Setup and Lighting First thing first, where are you taking your pictures? If it's in a basement, or near a glowing computer screen - pay particular attention. Look for a room in your house, with big windows that catch the sun at any given point in the day. This is were you'll be taking the pictures, and take them when the sun is going into the room. Section 2.0: The Camera Most people worry if their camera is good enough to take high quality pictures, and let me say: it probably is, in the hands of a capable photographer. Anything with 3 megapixels or more of resolution is great. Remember, your camera probably has a cornucopia(lots) of settings hidden it it - so read through the instruction booklet, and more importantly: play around with it! You (or your parents) probably paid good money for it, so get the most out of it. Avoid webcams and cameraphones, in my own opinion I think they're only good for video chat and capturing evidence in a crime; they probably have a very small resolution, under that 3 megapixels said above and also don't have all the functions a real camera does. Section 3.0: Post-Editing By this I mean cropping, resizing, and even more depending on the software you are using. Not all of us have the luxury of owning Photoshop, but it isn't the only thing out there. Gimp, and Irfanview are free so consider your options. Section 4.0: Conclusion So what does a good photograph amount to? It's much easier to look at, makes your model look better, and represents your hard worked details much better. Consider the following two photos: I hope this guide will help someone. If you have any questions, or tips, please post them! This post has been edited by Red Baron: Mar 9 2007, 05:59 PM -------------------- [.Space] [.Space Stories] [.Space Map] [Masoko Tanga] ![]() [Proud winner of LGD #3 and #4, Space and Sea] [I wish I was a Spaceman, the fastest guy alive] [I'd fly you round the universe in Fireball XL-5] |
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Feb 6 2007, 10:34 PM
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Mata Nuian Protector Defeated ![]() Group: Blog Assistants Posts: 3351 Joined: 14-May 06 Member No.: 41278
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Funny, I was just thinking about a topic like this. Anywho, cameras always take the same size picture (in pixils) so what I do is open new photos in MS Paint and scale the image down by a certain percent (that I use for all photos) before cropping it, that way I can be sure my images are are never too big.
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Feb 7 2007, 08:06 AM
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![]() Descending into Protodermis ![]() Group: New Members Posts: 900 Joined: 12-January 07 Member No.: 50786
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That's really helpful! Thanks!!
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Mar 8 2007, 08:05 AM
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Seeker ![]() Group: Banned Members Posts: 253 Joined: 17-January 07 Member No.: 51102
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Kinda helpful!
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Mar 8 2007, 10:20 PM
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![]() Senior Q&A Guru ![]() Group: Global Moderators Posts: 8255 Joined: 6-December 02 Member No.: 3028
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This is an excellent guide that I think would benefit everyone. I've pinned it as it will make a great reference.
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Mar 8 2007, 11:04 PM
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![]() Descending into Protodermis ![]() Group: New Members Posts: 1059 Joined: 14-January 07 Member No.: 50933
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Thats great advice! I'll definetly use it!
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Mar 9 2007, 01:40 AM
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![]() ![]() Pahrak-Kal Attacks! Group: Premier Members Posts: 2679 Joined: 8-June 03 Member No.: 10204
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I knew I shouldn't have used my phone. >.<
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Mar 9 2007, 01:30 PM
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![]() Descending into Protodermis Group: Premier Members Posts: 1046 Joined: 14-March 03 Member No.: 6314
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Nice job on this, RB. I like the reflector idea; I'll have to try that sometime.
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Mar 9 2007, 05:36 PM
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![]() Flying Force! ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2313 Joined: 8-July 03 Member No.: 11480
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Thanks for the pinning Than! Now I'll have to go through and fix some grammar.
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Mar 13 2007, 10:24 PM
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This is an excelent guide. I dare say that it's exactly what I was looking for. Question: does this approach work with solid black MOCs?
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Mar 15 2007, 08:10 AM
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![]() Flying Force! ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2313 Joined: 8-July 03 Member No.: 11480
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Solid black is a challenge. Two things to try here:
1] Get really good lighting and over expose or 2] Use a dark coloured (grey or black preferably) backdrop, this will create more contrast between the dark tones, and not just between white and black. -------------------- [.Space] [.Space Stories] [.Space Map] [Masoko Tanga] ![]() [Proud winner of LGD #3 and #4, Space and Sea] [I wish I was a Spaceman, the fastest guy alive] [I'd fly you round the universe in Fireball XL-5] |
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Mar 17 2007, 10:37 AM
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Stone Champion Defeated ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2749 Joined: 30-March 05 Member No.: 30961
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I'd suggest adding to it by saying to keep out of your shadow when photographing.
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Mar 24 2007, 06:14 AM
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Could I make a recommendation? Take your photograph in a reasonably dark room; if you have sunlight and the flash at the same time, it can blur the pics.
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Mar 24 2007, 04:36 PM
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![]() Flying Force! ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2313 Joined: 8-July 03 Member No.: 11480
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QUOTE(Kongu Inika @ Mar 24 2007, 06:14 AM) [snapback]4305869[/snapback] Could I make a recommendation? Take your photograph in a reasonably dark room; if you have sunlight and the flash at the same time, it can blur the pics. ~Kongu Inika I'm not quite sure what you mean, the whole point of this tutorial is so that you won't have to use the flash at all, how will taking your pictures in a dark room help? -------------------- [.Space] [.Space Stories] [.Space Map] [Masoko Tanga] ![]() [Proud winner of LGD #3 and #4, Space and Sea] [I wish I was a Spaceman, the fastest guy alive] [I'd fly you round the universe in Fireball XL-5] |
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Mar 26 2007, 06:19 AM
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Mar 27 2007, 01:00 PM
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![]() Scavenger Va ![]() Group: Members Posts: 650 Joined: 25-February 07 Member No.: 53221
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Thanxs for the tips.
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Mar 30 2007, 07:09 AM
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Stone Champion Defeated ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2749 Joined: 30-March 05 Member No.: 30961
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Indeed. they're perfect for....um..photographing LEGO Models!
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Apr 10 2007, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(Machine758 @ Mar 26 2007, 07:19 AM) [snapback]4309805[/snapback] I wouldn't say it's similar, for one thing the fact being that your pictures in that topic also look like they could do with the advice here. Most of them use flash and/or are blurry. Looks like a handy guide here. 'Course my dad has an incredibly expensive camera and knows a lot about photography but there are a few things here and there concerning small things like Lego models that I never really considered, like the white posterboard to reflect light. Even when I use my dad's giant floodlight (come to think of it, especially when) I get huge shadows. I tried it and it seemed to reduce it a bit, but not quite as much as I liked. Doesn't really help considering the inconvenient arrangement of lights in my room... ... and both my white posterboards now have something drawn on them. Anything that might reduce the shadows a bit more? -------------------- [img]http://www.majhost.com/gallery/zero0zero/Stuff/banner/52pck_ban4.gif[/img] Yes, I plan to advertise this until my account rots, seeing as it's basically my best work that I've ever posted here. |
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Apr 11 2007, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE(Than: Matoran of Anger @ Mar 8 2007, 07:20 PM) [snapback]4274315[/snapback] This is an excellent guide that I think would benefit everyone. I've pinned it as it will make a great reference. Might it not benefit more people if it were moved or copied to the BBC forum? Arpy -------------------- |
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Apr 11 2007, 02:33 AM
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QUOTE(Red Baron) [snapback]4201745[/snapback] Take lots of pictures! This is especially good advice, as even the most professional photographer is bound to get some photos that are bad or that the person just doesn't like. Of course, I sometimes take way too many pictures I don't like. QUOTE(Red Baron) [snapback]4276068[/snapback] Now I'll have to go through and fix some grammar. You better. *Gives menacing look* QUOTE(Red Baron) [snapback]4287937[/snapback] Solid black is a challenge. Two things to try here: Hmm, I never thought of using a dark backdrop for black MOC/set. I'll have to give that a try.1] Get really good lighting and over expose or 2] Use a dark coloured (grey or black preferably) backdrop, this will create more contrast between the dark tones, and not just between white and black. QUOTE(Lyger) [snapback]4348930[/snapback] Looks like a handy guide here. 'Course my dad has an incredibly expensive camera and knows a lot about photography but there are a few things here and there concerning small things like Lego models that I never really considered, like the white posterboard to reflect light. Indeed, I usually try to use something light-colored (if I can find it) to deflect the flash from whatever I was taking a picture of. Unfortunately, I don't always find the objects or space I'm looking for to take the pictures I'd like.Mixing outdoor background and indoor object doesn't really work either; sadly, some people try this for some reason. (I guess it's to try to give a certain kind of setting to the MOC.) That first picture gives a sense of crashing. ©1984-2007 Toaraga EAM -------------------- COT Official Topics | Trade References | COT RPG Guidelines | Truth | A Naming Day Carol | Stars Review The trouble with the status quo is that it keeps changing. "College dropout, Shego: they let me in; I let myself out." -Dr. Drakken No great feat was ever accomplished by those who gave into fear or caved under pressure. Earthquakes in many places. || Busy with life |
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Apr 11 2007, 06:27 AM
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Here's a tip: Make sure that most of the lighting is coming from just to your left, and take the picture from the front left corner of the creation. This way the more of the object is shown and it is well lit. An alternative is to do this on your right hand side rather than your left, but for some reason it is not as pleasing to the eye.
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Apr 11 2007, 07:30 PM
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![]() Flying Force! ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2313 Joined: 8-July 03 Member No.: 11480
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QUOTE(Lyger @ Apr 10 2007, 04:09 PM) [snapback]4348930[/snapback] ... and both my white posterboards now have something drawn on them. Anything that might reduce the shadows a bit more? Well, anything white will do - bedsheets, towels, etc. But in lieu of anything, wait for an overcast day and go outside. I mean, the suggestions in this guide have you using natural lighting anyways - inside is just a more controllable environment. Backdrop is still preferable for ease of viewing later, but it's no longer needed to provide ample lighting. A great number of pictures taken outdoors will be very sharp and clear. Overcast will provide the diffusion of light needed to get rid of most shadows. Direct sunlight may be a bit too strong, and will give you shadows. -------------------- [.Space] [.Space Stories] [.Space Map] [Masoko Tanga] ![]() [Proud winner of LGD #3 and #4, Space and Sea] [I wish I was a Spaceman, the fastest guy alive] [I'd fly you round the universe in Fireball XL-5] |
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Apr 16 2007, 10:03 AM
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![]() Master of Anger Rampant ![]() Group: Banned Members Posts: 5742 Joined: 29-May 04 Member No.: 23494
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QUOTE(Arpy @ Apr 11 2007, 03:09 AM) [snapback]4349971[/snapback] QUOTE(Than: Matoran of Anger @ Mar 8 2007, 07:20 PM) [snapback]4274315[/snapback] This is an excellent guide that I think would benefit everyone. I've pinned it as it will make a great reference. Might it not benefit more people if it were moved or copied to the BBC forum? Arpy Oh yeah. Some of those BBC 42 pics make my eyes water, because so many are small MoCs taken close-up... Overcast, light diffusion, got it. I'll get a smoke machine for my room. (haha, kidding... but I still want a smoke machine) -------------------- [img]http://www.majhost.com/gallery/zero0zero/Stuff/banner/52pck_ban4.gif[/img] Yes, I plan to advertise this until my account rots, seeing as it's basically my best work that I've ever posted here. |
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May 23 2007, 06:28 PM
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![]() ![]() Gahlok-Kal Crushed Group: Premier Outstanding BZP Citizens Posts: 4636 Joined: 26-January 03 Member No.: 4694
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QUOTE Next, a Backdrop. One thing to avoid is a cluttered background, it distracts the eye from the model itself. So go get a piece of White Poster Board, Bristol Board, or at the very least a white bed sheet. Find a chair or something with a right angle (a table against a wall would also work), something with ambient lighting from your window - avoid having direct light from your window (i.e.: if you can see shadows of the slats that run through your window, move out of that patch of light) across your setup as this will result in some washed-out areas of the photograph as your camera compensates for the difference in lighting. So as I said, look for ambient lighting. Drape your backdrop along that right angle, making sure it's secure - it should curve down from the vertical surface onto the horizontal one, but make sure you have enough flat space to place things. Flat space: unless you are already placing the Backdrop on a hard flat surface, you may want to put one under the backdrop, so that your models will have a stable flat surface to rest. Actually, I'd suggest you spray paint your backdrop from a distance so that it looks less flat. Like here. -------------------- QUOTE An we just keep an eye out fer Krahiki, then? Just walk down the middle o the ridge like it was an aisle in a merchants shop, until we see the Krahiki we want? -My epic |
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May 24 2007, 10:40 PM
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![]() Mask of Time Discovered ![]() Group: Outstanding BZPower Citizens Posts: 4147 Joined: 10-February 07 Member No.: 52368
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Wait, about the CameraPhone bit... I have one, but it has 3.2 megapixels, focus and image stabilizer. Will that still be OK?
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Jun 1 2007, 07:37 PM
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![]() Master of Anger Rampant ![]() Group: Banned Members Posts: 5742 Joined: 29-May 04 Member No.: 23494
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QUOTE(Wrinkledlion X @ May 23 2007, 07:28 PM) [snapback]4456454[/snapback] QUOTE Next, a Backdrop. One thing to avoid is a cluttered background, it distracts the eye from the model itself. So go get a piece of White Poster Board, Bristol Board, or at the very least a white bed sheet. Find a chair or something with a right angle (a table against a wall would also work), something with ambient lighting from your window - avoid having direct light from your window (i.e.: if you can see shadows of the slats that run through your window, move out of that patch of light) across your setup as this will result in some washed-out areas of the photograph as your camera compensates for the difference in lighting. So as I said, look for ambient lighting. Drape your backdrop along that right angle, making sure it's secure - it should curve down from the vertical surface onto the horizontal one, but make sure you have enough flat space to place things. Flat space: unless you are already placing the Backdrop on a hard flat surface, you may want to put one under the backdrop, so that your models will have a stable flat surface to rest. Actually, I'd suggest you spray paint your backdrop from a distance so that it looks less flat. Like here. Depends on the effect your going for. Either way, your background should never overpower your model. I prefer flat. Because then, well, the model's the only thing there. ...and it's easier to cut out on Photoshop. ^^; -------------------- [img]http://www.majhost.com/gallery/zero0zero/Stuff/banner/52pck_ban4.gif[/img] Yes, I plan to advertise this until my account rots, seeing as it's basically my best work that I've ever posted here. |
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Jun 15 2007, 08:09 AM
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Inhabitant ![]() Group: New Members Posts: 13 Joined: 12-June 07 Member No.: 58561
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im making a lego starwars movie any tips
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Jun 27 2007, 05:07 PM
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Dear Red Baron,
I have an issue with the back-drop rule. I have an MOC so large that the thing will not even fit behind it. What can I do to make a backdrop? Thanks. --- -------------------- BrickShelf | Maj | MOCPage "So, humans need fantasies to make life bearable?" "NO. HUMANS NEED FANTASIES TO BE HUMAN." |
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Jun 30 2007, 02:23 AM
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![]() ![]() Mask of Time Discovered Group: Premier Forum Assistants Posts: 4043 Joined: 9-January 02 Member No.: 513
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Given that RB hasn't visisted here in over a month, I think I can safely answer this for him. My advice would be to get a bigger backdrop, such as a white sheet. If you can't do that, then find a place with a light-colored wall, a light carpet or floor, and no reflective surfaces.
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Jul 10 2007, 05:51 PM
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Toa ![]() Group: Members Posts: 176 Joined: 19-March 06 Member No.: 39963
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Just found this topic a few seconds ago, and I'm already going to add this to my online favorites; it's an invaluable resource.
About a week ago I used some tips like these which many of our members may already have the resources for:
Thanks for the tip about using poster-board; I couldn't think of anything useful enough, and will try to use that more often. *saves to favorites* Edit: I must recommend the freeware Paint.net as a viable alternative to Photoshop, alongside the GIMP or Ifranview. It's just like MS Paint, so the interface is very familiar, yet it has many of the tools the other two mentioned programs already have. I use it frequently...the learning curve isn't that large. Also, many BZP members probably have Microsoft Office installed. Versions 2003 and above (at the very least, 2003) come with a handy little app called "Microsoft Office Picture Manager," accessed at Start >> Programs >> Microsoft Office >> Microsoft Office Tools >> Microsoft Office Picture Manager. Here you can do minor tweaking, like brightness/contrast, as well as an invaluable resizing tool for "considerate" Brickshelf viewing. This post has been edited by Proud Texan: Jul 10 2007, 06:03 PM -------------------- |
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Jul 10 2007, 08:16 PM
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![]() Flying Force! ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2313 Joined: 8-July 03 Member No.: 11480
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Thanks Arp. Figured I'd check in here.
Bedsheets work well as large backdrops - if you don't have white then just go for a light neutral colour. Worst comes to worse, just make sure where ever you're taking photos has a uniform background - try the middle of the floor, instead of where the floor meets the wall. This means that in any photos where that floor/wall line appears, it'll be nicely out of focus. And thank's proud texan. Yes, a 'must' is to take pictures from an many angles as possible - and the 3/4 shot (slightly from the front and side, a bit above) is a staple! Taking full frontals is good for mechs and the like, but losses significance for other things, still include them however. -------------------- [.Space] [.Space Stories] [.Space Map] [Masoko Tanga] ![]() [Proud winner of LGD #3 and #4, Space and Sea] [I wish I was a Spaceman, the fastest guy alive] [I'd fly you round the universe in Fireball XL-5] |
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Sep 8 2007, 05:20 PM
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Kohrak-Kal Attacks! ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2856 Joined: 25-June 03 Member No.: 10998
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Can you take good pictures on a speckled generally-whitish gray carpet?
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Oct 9 2007, 12:50 PM
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![]() ![]() Mask of Time Discovered Group: Premier Outstanding BZP Citizens Posts: 4262 Joined: 12-May 07 Member No.: 57014
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Great advice, I'm sure many people wll find this useful.
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Nov 24 2007, 09:22 AM
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Nice guide, Red Baron! Very helpful.
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Dec 4 2007, 06:29 PM
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Thanks for creating this. My pictures are horrible. Also, you can't edit images during BBC contests.
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Dec 31 2007, 04:36 PM
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Makuta Conquered! ![]() Group: Members Posts: 559 Joined: 27-June 07 Member No.: 59367
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Thanks. I can give the reflectors and natural lights a try.
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Feb 5 2008, 01:00 AM
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Thanks to this guide I now know why my pictures turned out horrible even though I couldn't find any thing wrong with them.
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Feb 21 2008, 07:16 PM
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In the case of prolonged bad weather or other conditions that cause less sunlight to come through than desired, I like to use a high power true-white lamp (found at craft/hobby stores, but quite pricey), or a halogen flashlight, and position it parallel to the camera so the light reflects mostly into the lens and so that there's no weird glare from camera flash (which both makes the picture way too bright AND drains the battery) and white/light blue/etc. parts don't get any yellow tint from the flash or dim light.
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Mar 30 2008, 09:30 AM
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![]() Mata Nuian Protector Nuva ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1754 Joined: 6-December 06 Member No.: 48807
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This is helpful thanks I will make sure
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Apr 22 2008, 02:03 AM
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Toa ![]() Group: Members Posts: 122 Joined: 5-July 07 Member No.: 59757
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I am going to make a movie too but it is not on star wars. It is still lego but this time, it is bionicle...Hope you will be able to see it online when I post it...or will I
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