The Big Picture, Mata Nui? The Matoran universe? Options

[Planetperson]

You might remember a theory I posted last year concerning the physical form of Mata Nui. The topic can be read here. To summarize, the thought was that Mata Nui’s body is in fact the Matoran universe itself, and that the workings of the universe were characteristically similar to the processes of a human body. The Matoran are like the cells of a body – individually small, dispensable, but collectively vital to the well-being of the whole – they make up the whole, allow it to function. Metru Nui is like Mata Nui’s brain – one might compare the resident Matoran to brain cells. The chute system that webs through the city? It’s like a network of neurons. The Great Archives beneath the surface of the city? Representative of Mata Nui’s memory.

When the Matoran stop working, Mata Nui’s brain shuts down, and he goes into a coma. Metru Nui’s power plant in the Coliseum siphons off extra power to other lands that depend on the energy. The brain controls the body. When the brain is out of commission, the rest of the body gets sick. It happened during the Great Disruption and again after the Great Cataclysm.

The island of Mata Nui is like Mata Nui’s face. It’s the head of Mata Nui, sunk into the ocean. This is why Metru Nui and all other Matoran lands are underground – they need to be inside Mata Nui’s body.

The Universe Core is like Mata Nui’s heart. It feeds energy to the whole universe, like the heart is responsible for pumping blood and its oxygen to all parts of the body. When Mata Nui died in 2007, Matoro saw Karda Nui’s glow fade as he approached it, as if his heartbeat were giving out. When Mata Nui was brought back to life, the glow was restored.

I was very self-assured of my idea when I posted it. It explains everything – why Matoran lands are in underground cavities, why Matoran working in Metru Nui has anything to do with the Great Spirit being healthy, even various symbols that have appeared throughout the saga. I am still sure of my theory now.

I return with a more reinforced version of my theory, complete with pictures, some of clues you may have missed, hints that have been around even since 2001, and explanations for some of the major facets of the BIONICLE. I draw from key storyline points, promotional material, and the ever-intriguing tidbits from the OGDT. (Unfortunately, I don’t have the patience to provide quotes from the OGDT, only to assure you that I remember reading them.)

The History of Mata Nui/the Matoran Universe:
The Facts Explained

• Over 100,000 years ago, the Great Beings came upon a planet covered with a vast, rolling ocean. On it they resolved to create a new world. In their wisdom, they decided that the ultimate power in their new universe should belong to a Great Spirit.
• A Great Spirit whose body is the universe itself establishes a quintessential order of things. The Great Spirit cannot neglect his duty to keep the universe in order just as any self-preserving being would not want harm to come to one’s own body. In turn, the inhabitants must dutifully labor away in order to sustain the being that makes their existence possible.
  
  
• The very first thing the Great Beings created before anything else was a Matoran.
• A single Matoran. A single cell. Much like people start out. Interestingly (and I don’t think this was really intended to bear significance), the first Matoran would have been one of Light. You could say Av-Matoran are a multi-colored variety of cell, kinda like stem cells.
  
  
• Over time, the Great Beings constructed the geographic foundations of the new world. They made all land, sea, and living beings out of protodermis instead of substances familiar to us on earth like the water of the ocean in which the Great Beings created their universe.
• The Great Beings made the entire world – the rocks, the water, the living things – out of its own substance, protodermis, making the flesh of the universe distinct from its natural surroundings. Keep in mind dermis means “skin.” Back in 2001, the story team was still uncertain about a name between biodermis and protodermis and settled on the latter – it seems that the “dermis” root was the important one.
  
  
• The Great Beings made the island of Mata Nui barren and intended for it always to stay that way. They created the Bohrok to ensure this.
• Understandable protocol to keep the face of Mata Nui clear.
  
  
• The Great Spirit Mata Nui existed in form for some time before he came to life 100,000 years ago, which, incidentally, was the same time as the Great Beings founded Metru Nui.
• The Great Beings form Mata Nui’s body, then they turn his brain on.
  
  
• Beneath Mount Valmai near the village Voya Nui on the southern continent, which incidentally is the land directly above Karda Nui, the Great Beings hid the Mask of Life in case it was ever needed to save the life of the Great Spirit.
• Karda Nui is Mata Nui’s heart. Keep in mind that in the real world the story team chose the name Karda because it was based on the Greek root cardia, meaning “heart.” The Mask of Life is like a defibrillator in case his life force dwindles.
  
  
• The Great Beings founded Metru Nui as the northernmost island in the world.
• Metru Nui is so far north because it is in the head of Mata Nui.
  
  
• The power generated by Metru Nui’s power plant in the Coliseum is siphoned off to other parts of the world, and other lands have come to depend on Metru Nui’s productivity greatly.
• The brain has domain over the body.
  
  
• Metru Nui, in turn, is fed energy produced in Karda Nui. Karda Nui also provides energy to the rest of the universe as well.
• The brain may be the head of the body, but the heart powers it.
  
  
• Mata Nui is responsible for using his power to maintain essential forces in his universe such as heat, light, gravity, air, and other things the inhabitants need to survive.
• If the universe his body, he would be the prime being responsible for these things. Body heat is familiar to us. But gravity? I talk about that later…
  
  
• 80,000 years ago, the Barraki tried to defeat Mata Nui and seize power in the universe. Their plan was to conquer every corner of the world, key locations being Metru Nui and the southern continent (the area over Karda Nui). The Brotherhood of Makuta stopped them.
• The Barraki would not have known what they were doing, supposedly, but their attack would have taken control of the brain and the heart, the only parts that were kept taboo from their rigid control, and thus posed a serious threat to the whole body.
  
  
• 79,500 years ago, civil war broke out in Metru Nui. For 400 years, the Matoran weren’t doing their jobs, and Mata Nui became sick. The Makuta put an end to the war 79,100 years ago. This was the Great Disruption. Just afterward, Jovan and company had to use the Mask of Life to bring Mata Nui back to full health.
• An example of the effects of staggered brain function.
  
  
• 1,300 years ago, Teridax began the attack on Mata Nui, using a specially-crafted virus to bring him down. Although no one knew where Mata Nui’s physical form was, Teridax successfully infected Mata Nui by unleashing the virus to sweep the whole universe. At this time, the Visorak started ravaging various lands of the Matoran universe. Mata Nui noticed the attack only when it was too late. When Mata Nui started dying in recent storyline, it became apparent that the Makuta’s attack had been on the more powerful side.
• Teridax’s virus was so powerful because it didn’t just hit Mata Nui’s body, it hit his entire body. The Visorak, incidentally, were ravaging lands in his body, not good for his health.
  
  
• 1,000 years ago, Makuta successfully put all of the Matoran of Metru Nui into stasis pods. Immediately afterward, Mata Nui finally succumbed to the Makuta’s attack.
• During the Great Disruption, Matoran were still active in the city, if geared toward kicking each other’s Kanohi. It still did a number on his physical state, however. When Teridax sealed away the Matoran, they weren’t active at all. That time, Mata Nui’s brain activity shut down, and he went comatose.
  
  
• The Great Cataclysm affected the entirety of the Matoran universe, causing quakes everywhere. I believe it has been said that presently Mata Nui is in a different position from where he is normally.
• Okay, this idea is new: Let’s suppose Mata Nui/the universe, at his normal state, stands upright, on his feet, in the ocean. It is known that Mata Nui is virtually omnipotent in his own universe and that one of his duties is to maintain gravity. If he stands upright, he can still make gravity work downward with his power. Now, suppose that when Mata Nui was attacked, the attack caused him to fall. Makuta timed the fall with his giant sundial. The Great Cataclysm was the event of Mata Nui's hitting the ground, rattling his whole body and the universe inside it.
  
  
• If Mata Nui were ever to be awakened again, certain things caused by the Great Cataclysm would need to be undone. The Matoran would need to repopulate Metru Nui and resume work, Voya Nui would need to be restored to its original location, and all of the Toa Nuva’s tasks from Gali Nuva’s Blog would need to be fulfilled as well, including using the Staff of Artakha to repair all of the damage done by the Cataclysm.
• It’s all about getting Mata Nui’s brain back in order, repairing Mata Nui’s body to full health, and, finally, jump-starting his heart. That last act, according to the Ignika story arc’s tagline, is Ignition.
  
  
• Recently, the Matoran repopulated Metru Nui. It was soon discovered that Mata Nui was dying. The The stars above Metru Nui dimmed, and cracks formed at the base of the Coliseum. The Toa embarked on a quest for the Mask of Life to save Mata Nui. Jaller had a vision that if Mata Nui were to die, the universe would become dark and would flood. The universe would survive for only three days after his death, then all life would perish. The effect would only take place within the domed universe; outside, like on the surface of Mata Nui, one would be safe.
• Outside Mata Nui’s body, the effects of his death do not apply. Should Mata Nui die, all equilibrium in his body present while he was alive would go to chaos.
  
  
• Mata Nui did die. Matoro quickly took the Mask of Life to Karda Nui. When he dropped down into the realm, he noticed that its brilliant glow dimmed as the moments passed after Mata Nui’s death. Matoro activated the mask’s power, sacrificed himself, and resuscitated Mata Nui. Thereafter, Mata Nui started dreaming, which he had not been doing before. Around the same time, Voya Nui was returned as the Staff of Artakha restored all damage caused by the Great Cataclysm. The Toa Nuva’s final mission to awaken Mata Nui is now underway.
• After his death, Mata Nui’s life-force, or “heartbeat,” started to wane. With the Matoran “cells” and chute “neurons” back in Mata Nui’s brain, he started having thoughts again.

NEW INFO: Just recently, it was revealed at Greg’s library appearance in Willimantic (see ~~Zarkan~~’s topic) that Mata Nui’s physical form is much closer to 100,000 feet than ten feet in height. When I first read somewhere else that it was said that Mata Nui is about 100,000 feet, I was dismayed, since 100,000 feet is under 20 miles, not even close to the length of the surface of the island Mata Nui. But then, to my relief, Mata Nui got bigger. It was confirmed in the OGDT that Mata Nui is actually closer to 700,000 feet. Why 700,000, and not 800,000 or 900,000? Consider this: Mata Nui is seven times the size of Metru Nui. Not exactly sure if it’s even significant, though. Mata Nui seems to be getting very huge indeed. Good support for this idea.

UPDATE: Since the posting of this topic, several members have pointed out some new details that further support the notion that Mata Nui is the Matoran universe. I'll include these points below -- thanks goes to the posters!

• There is some pattern/arrangement to the lands of the Matoran universe.
• Freeze reminded me of this fact. And the pattern is -- Mata Nui's body. Shaped like Ignika man?
  
  
• Ihu and Mangai are terms that were conceived in 2001, when the Bionicle story team was still basing names on the Maori language. As Konrad first pointed out in this topic, a Maori translating website reveals that Ihu means "nose" and Mangai means "mouth."
• Mount Ihu is the tallest point on Mata Nui, much like a nose is the most protruding part of a person's face. The Mangai volcano is south of that, much like the mouth would go below the nose. Some members have drawn a striking similarity between the rock face representing Mata Nui from the old sandpit animations and the island of Mata Nui itself, as Zeddy pointed out. Ihu and Mangai appear to form a nose and a mouth when this is done.
  
  
• Tren Krom, a scarlet, all-organic entity, sustained the universe before Mata Nui came to life.
• Toa of Kenn came up with a new thought: Tren Krom is like a placenta to Mata Nui. Just as a mother's placenta sustains a fetus before birth, Tren Krom sustained Mata Nui's body before his coming to life. Perhaps Greg Farshtey chose to create this character for the sake of this parallel?
  
  
• In MNOLG, Onu-Matoran miners encountered a layer of earth deep in the mines that none of their tools could even scratch. It was said that the layer's substance had more in common with an Ussal shell.
• V. K. Seeker of Legends pointed this out. This might be a consistent detail, it might not, but this somehow organic layer might be the true face of Mata Nui. If Mata Nui wears a mask (I hear that it was said he does), the island of Mata Nui's surface would be the covering on his face.
  
  UPDATE Aug 12:
• Greg has stated that getting to Mata Nui is easy as 10 on a 1-10 scale. He is just as easy to get to from the island Mata Nui as Voya Nui. Knowing that one has found him, however, is the hard part.
• No one in the Matoran world knows the location or appearance of the Great Spirit or how to access him. But if their world itself is Mata Nui, the Great Spirit would constantly be right under their masks, with his people oblivious to his presence all the while. That's the trick -- knowing Mata Nui is physically all around you, all the time. Mata Nui and Voya Nui are of Mata Nui's form, even if Voya Nui was detached, so it would make sense Mata Nui is just as easy to get to from both places.
  
  UPDATE Aug 26:
• The Makuta are "spreading darkness" in Karda Nui, mounting a great assault on that place.
• -Wrinkledlion X- points out in this topic that, being that Karda Nui is essentially Mata Nui's heart, the Makuta may be planning to spread darkness in it, in a sense "shadow-leeching" Mata Nui and turning him evil.
  
  UPDATE Sep 6:
• In the story "The Kingdom," Turaga Takanuva mentions that the island of Mata Nui is on the verge of collapse.
• Member turagapohatunuva points out that this effect of Mata Nui's death resembles the "rotting" of a body. It should make sense that following Mata Nui's death, his physical form would decay.

Other Evidence

The old logos used to have a split of the island of Mata Nui and the enemy’s face. See the new parallel?




Ah, yes, the mysterious figure based on the Vitruvian man. Perhaps it's representative of Mata Nui's original stance? It’s been around for a while, you know. Ever since MNOLG (on the telescope) and the old Toa CD (at the Amaja-Nui). In the Toa Mata CD, clicking on the man starts a narrated animation of the legend of Mata Nui as told with stones (like in MNOLG). The man, supposedly Mata Nui himself, is the legend, is the universe, is the story.






The MNOLG and Toa CD animations of the legend of Mata Nui both have the same sequence of events. Makuta’s shadow spreads, Mata Nui falls over, the stones (Matoran) get jumbled, Mata Nui (for some reason) sinks into the sand so that his face remains above the surface. In the Toa CD, the stones gather on his face, like the Matoran of Metru Nui migrated to the island of Mata Nui.

UPDATE:

In the movie Legends of Metru Nui, at the moment when the Great Cataclysm occurs, the twin suns "close" as if they were eyes. The positions of the twin suns on Mata Nui have always been identified as Naho Bay and a frozen lake in Ko-Wahi. A common misconception used to be that the Mangai volcano was one of the suns, but that was corrected. Why was that important? Because Ko-Wahi and Ga-Wahi are both in the north of Mata Nui and oppose each other latitudinally. In other words, they are where eyes would be if Mata Nui were a face.

That’s All

Thanks for reading. I highly doubt every detail of the theory as presented here is accurate, if any of it is accurate at all. But for my part, I subscribe to this idea.

PS: I PMed bonesiii -- he okayed me to post this topic separately from the official topics.

This post has been edited by Planetperson: Sep 6 2008, 01:22 PM

very well thought-out, i think you nailed it! Edit: GregF said that if MN awoke, they'd make a set of him or something... How do you make a set of the universe?

This post has been edited by Hihkan:ChosenOneofLight: Jul 14 2008, 11:02 PM

[Toa Korkoa: Toa ...]

Pretty incredible. I think this is very plausible.

[V.K. Seeker of L...]

The only thing here is the 700,000 feet kinda proves nothing... considering that the Island of Mata Nui itself is around 1.6 million feet long.

I like the idea... it's my personal theory as well, but THAT piece of evidence really proves nothing. Unless all of my/Google's math is wrong.

-VK-

[*z*]

Very plausible theory.. there was a similar one posted by Axinian, which said that Mata Nui was the UC, but that was disproved.

He could very well be the Matoran Universe.

And anyway, could you provide the quote which proves Mata Nui is 700 000 feet long/high?

EDIT: Oh, and you might also want to add that Mata Nui is as easy to reach from Metru Nui as from Voya Nui.. which could probably mean that (probably) he's the Matoran Universe.

This post has been edited by Zeddy: Jul 14 2008, 11:36 PM

Great theory! It certainly seems feasible.

[Kohena: Great Wa...]

[applause]

I had been meaning to make a theory similar to this, but the wording in this one is far better, and the comparisons between parts of the universe and parts of the body were very good. Something you should add, though - Greg confirmed that Mata Nui is physically stronger than the Great Beings. Since the Great Beings just seem to be regular-sized bipeds [seeing as they walked down the Ignika's staircase normally], it would make sense that a giant with an island for a face would be stronger than them, right?

And anyway, could you provide the quote which proves Mata Nui is 700 000 feet long/high?

Here, so I'm betting it's valid.

[The Master Chief]

Interesting. At first I thought Metru Nui and Karda Nui were each two parts of his "heart". Very plausible theory.

[MahriNorik]

Finally, we have enough proof to pinpoint Mata Nui's location!

Greg already cofirmed that the planet/universe isn't Mata Nui's body. The quote can be found in the Official Mata Nui's Status Topic. I'll go see if I can find it.

Edit:

3) Same thing with Mata Nui's physical person. You've said things like, he's not the entire Matoran universe/planet. He's not Mata Nui (the island). He's not in Metru Nui (the island). If you can recall what you've said that he isn't from commonly wrong theories, that'd also be great.
3) All I have ever said that I recall is that he is not the planet, and he does have a physical body

So, this is disproven. Although, I do agree somewhat that the "Stickman" figure has something to do with it. I had a similar theory a while ago.

This post has been edited by Einstein-x: Jul 15 2008, 09:43 AM

[Dimentio]

That quote just says he isn't the planet, not the Universe. I think this plan makes sense I even have more evidence proving it:

Here, you see, that the ocean around Mata Nui is shallower to the south. His neck, perhaps?
Here in ET's picture, you can see the island of Mata Nui,which I think is a face, the Mangia Volcano looks like a mouth, Mt. Ihu looks like a nose, but think about where the sun holes are. There is one under Lake Naho, and one under a glacier in Ko-Wahi. Therefore, they could be right where his eyes are. (Note: Metru Nui is the only dome with them.)
So, I think your theory holds water.

EDIT: I found an online Translator, and you guys know how Bionicle used to use Maori terms for things right? Well Ihu is Maori for Nose and Mangai for Mouth.

This post has been edited by Konrad: Jul 15 2008, 10:20 PM

[V.K. Seeker of L...]

About Mata Nui's height... is it AROUND 700,000 feet? Or could he potentially be several times bigger than that?

-VK-

The actual thing I said is "closer to 700,000 feet than 100,000 feet" - which could mean 701,000 feet or it could mean 40 million feet.

Considering if he's the universe, he'd have be... well, around 40 million feet tall... that helps this theory a bit.

-VK-

[*z*]

You could also add the similarities between the mouth of the Mata Nui stone and Mangai as seen here.


EDIT: Oh, and see this:

Mata Nui has a physical form, which book author Greg Farshtey has said is hard to find, but when you know you found it, you will have. His form is in a character we have not yet seen. In fact, the size of Mata Nui is over 700,000 feet tall.

And I we've seen the Matoran Universe, so...

This post has been edited by Zeddy: Jul 15 2008, 10:38 AM

Great theory. It makes sense and it's logical. When I saw the figure in the Ignika, I thought that maybe Mata Nui was holding the Matoran Universe on his shoulders.

It's plausible and maybe I'll nominate it for a Key to Nongu award.

~MX

Konrad, the Matoran Universe is part of the planet, technically, as it refers only to the Domes. So, if he isn't the planet, he's logically not the Universe.

This post has been edited by Einstein-x: Jul 15 2008, 04:50 PM

[Toa of Kenn]

I think Greg understood "holding up" as "sustaining" and not as virtually holding the Matoran universe in his hands.

And Mata Nui can of course sustain the Matoran universe, because he keeps his own body alive, and don't we all keep our body alive though don't actively care about what happens inside of us (as long as nothing goes wrong with us!)?

YOU Planetperson deserve a Key to Nongu award, not only does it make sense, but you did it with making the longest post ever.

I think Greg understood "holding up" as "sustaining" and not as virtually holding the Matoran universe in his hands.

And Mata Nui can of course sustain the Matoran universe, because he keeps his own body alive, and don't we all keep our body alive though don't actively care about what happens inside of us (as long as nothing goes wrong with us!)?

But what about dropping the universe bit?

[MahriNorik]

I think Greg understood "holding up" as "sustaining" and not as virtually holding the Matoran universe in his hands.

And Mata Nui can of course sustain the Matoran universe, because he keeps his own body alive, and don't we all keep our body alive though don't actively care about what happens inside of us (as long as nothing goes wrong with us!)?

But what about dropping the universe bit?

The Great Cataclysm was more of a rumbling that lasted for a few seconds than a huge fall. Wouldn't a fall make a big splash on the water that everyone can see? And Greg only said I would say so. Mata Nui technically is holding up the Universe as it is his body in this theory.

Another thing that's kinda fallen away because Greg knew nothing about it - the organic rock that the Onu-Matoran miners couldn't drill through in MNOLG. The one that "had more in common with an Ussal shell". If the island of Mata Nui was Mata Nui's mask (remember, it's said he DOES wear a mask), then eventually, miners would reach his face... which would logically have higher organic contents that the soil within his mask.

I could have sworn Greg said that he doesn't wear a mask, and that the "organic rock" was non-canon.

[Planetperson]

Time for an update! Thank you, posters, for your ideas, discussion, info, and support. See the first post for a few updates based on members' suggestions. If I forgot anyone's ideas, tell me. I realize this theory isn't exactly mine alone.

[Adventurer]

I also believe places like Naho meant something else to do with the face, though I have since forgotten.

[tomdroidser]

Wasn't Mount Ihu named after a Ko-Matoran by the name of Ihu?

-Tomdroidser

[Adventurer]

Wasn't Mount Ihu named after a Ko-Matoran by the name of Ihu?

-Tomdroidser

In the story, yes, but the actual name is a Maori word for nose.

This is, an excellent, very well thought out theory. The idea of Mata Nui being a "body" is very plausible.

But, you forgot one thing:

Tren Krom

Wasn't Tren Krom assigned to run the Matoran Universe before Mata Nui? Then that would mean that there is no "body", because Tren Krom was in the Matoran Universe before Mata Nui, thus, Mata Nui was not there in Tren Krom's time, meaning, that he couldn't be the "body".

Pretty sure this disproves it.

EDIT: Seems Toa of Kenn beat me to it, but I think that the Matoran Universe was already completed in Tren Krom's time. How "the universe is different" would most likely refer to all the damage that took place.

This post has been edited by -Zip_Er-: Jul 21 2008, 04:08 PM

[Planetperson]

Tren Krom does fit into this big math equation. We know Mata Nui existed in form before he came to life. We also know Tren Krom was supporting the universe while it was being constructed, then was banished when Mata Nui woke up for the first time. To me, there doesn't seem to be any contradiction. Tren Krom was "pumping" Mata Nui's heart while his body was still incomplete, and that's how he was supporting the world. Simple, I think.

[Bionicle Guru]

It...all makes....such perfect sense.

It makes even more sense when you consider the biggest clue of them all. You were on the right track when you considered the origins of the words "protodermis", "Mangai", and "Ihu," and how they related to body parts. But you forgot the clincher! The big one! The one clue that everybody knew about since the first time they opened a Lego brochure in late 2000 that advertised this mysterious, cool Technic theme coming out in 2001.

Since 2001, we have been following this story. A story of six heroes...one destiny. Of how they and their allies, past and present, have worked to preserve, save, and awaken the Great Spirit Mata Nui and his chosen people, the Matoran. And while he has been asleep or dying for the most part of these 8 years, this long story is really all about him! If it weren't for the Mata Nui character's life being threatened, there would be no story! No point.

In short, it could not be a BIOlogical chroNICLE. A legend weaved around and within the fate of one, biological character.

THIS is why it is called "the legend of the BIONICLE."

[tomdroidser]

How about Daxia?

-Tomdroidser

[Dimentio]

I can see that, Mata-Nui exists for the inhabitants, so some places wouldn't be like organs, they would just be places where people can live, like Daxia and Odina.

[tomdroidser]

Where would the volcanoes fit in with Mata Nui?

-Tomdroidser

This is probably the most plausible theory I've come across, and everything does seem to make sense and fit together. I bet this took you forever..

@whoever said that Greg said that we'd never seen anything like Mata Nui, it's true that we've seen the inside of the universe, but we've never seen the outside, and most bodies look far different on the outside than on the inside..

But what about Makuta being Mata Nui's brother? Usually the brother of a universe wouldn't live inside it, aye?

This post has been edited by Ferhago the Zealot: Aug 4 2008, 06:38 PM

more things

in OGD it was stated by greg Mata Nui is now closer to 1,000,000 feet than 700,000 feet

also i don't remember where but somewhere it was stated that mata nui only cares about large scale items and that is also related to to mata nui being the universe.
for example
two matoran get in a fight the vahki stop them. just like cells stopping a few bad cells
the matoran civil war is like the flu or cold but really bad. mata nui is dieing cause he's sick and toa jovan gives him his medicine(or steroids) the mask of life

[Dimentio]

This is probably the most plausible theory I've come across, and everything does seem to make sense and fit together. I bet this took you forever..

@whoever said that Greg said that we'd never seen anything like Mata Nui, it's true that we've seen the inside of the universe, but we've never seen the outside, and most bodies look far different on the outside than on the inside..

But what about Makuta being Mata Nui's brother? Usually the brother of a universe wouldn't live inside it, aye?

Well, Teridax idn't really MN's brother, it's just metaphorical.

[Gordon Freeman]

It's all becoming clear to me now. I always though Mata Nui was the Matoran universe itself, but I could never get all the facts straight. You, Planetperson, have pieced the puzzle together brilliantly! Bravo!

Anyways, you might want to include that snippet from BIONICLE: Mask of Light, where Jaller asks Mata Nui about his destiny, and a small bioquake occurs, with Jaller responding "Well, I guess I asked." Not sure if that scene has any significance or not, it could've just been Takua and Pewku arriving, but you never know.

[Zaktan of the Sh...]

Gordy, that last one is probably there to show it is his heart, because I don't think he'll survive when the energy storms come.

~Air Spirit

[Zaktan of the Sh...]

But, a question: If Mata-Nui really is the Matoran universe, then how come he has to focus of createing heat, gravity, etc, and we don't have to focus on much to keep our bodies functiong?

1) When was it said that he had to focus on it?

2) He could control them actively as several powers and he could also control them through his natural bodily functions.

When Greg said he was to busy doing his job to look into the individual lives of the inhabitants of the universe he was protecting.

That doesn't mean that that is the only thing he does. He may have been focusing on other things. Taking care of the universe is a big job.

@ the face thing - I could get some more loactions of Mata Mui which mean face parts in Maori if you want. I should still have a few translations and quotes from when this idea was last popular.

Sure! Thanks Adventurer.

~Air Spirit

[Dimentio]

I'm pretty sure that in Maori the word Mata means face.

[The Venom Symbio...]

Well, I think the people in the Universe would find it suspicious if there are trying to sail to part of the Universe, then Mata Nui moved his arm and the boat would crash. It just doesn't seem like a good idea for the GBs to try.

Mata-Nui controls the gravity inside.In a way we do too. When we move our arm the blood doesn't start rushing in the wrong direction, only does that if we're completely upside down.

[Dimentio]

I know that MN creates gravity with in himself, but it would be odd if one minute I was going south, then MN moved his arm and all of a sudden I'm going north.