I think that the Boxor, Exo, Bohrok, Bohrok Va and maybe the Bahrag are useless to the story. Why did Lego make them when they last only a short time. The Boxor is only an accessery, and it is not vital to the story. The Exo is not neccessery to it either, considering that in the end the Toa defeat the Bahrag armourless, and they only last for a short while until the Toa get fed up with them. The Bohrok and Bohrok Va only exist as something to keep the Toa turned on while the Makuta 'recharges', although Bohrok Nuva might come into this if the hive floods with Protodermis. Bahrag are again useless, only existing to be a substitute enemy for the Toa, but again, part of the Bahrag still survives, in the form of the Toa Nuva.

So what do you think? Useless or Useful? A good idea or a bad one? Tell me!

Well I wouldn't call the Boxor useless. It's desinged to protect the vilages from the Bohrok swarms but that doesn't mean that the Boxor can't defend them from whatever Makuta throws at Mata-nui this time. And as for the Exo-Toa, it says in the exo- toa bio on Lego dot com that the exo-toa may be able to function on its own, which suggests that they will be part of the up coming story line. What do you mean by "part of the Bahrag survives in the form of the Toa Nuva." The Toa Nuva were created by the Toa being exposed to liquid protoderms.

What's even weirder in my opinion is that the Turaga are still in the storyline, yet LEGO discontinued them anyway.  It seems that storyline and set availabilty aren't perfectly matched, so we may still see the 2002 sets in 2003.

Well on MoD I read that the Turaga had limited production runs. Also, as kanohi of indescribable power said, what do mean by"Part of the Bahrag still survives in the Toa Nuva." Were you thinking about the phrase "Will the Toa Nuva's power save Mata Nui... Or destroy it?" The sets which appear to be shortlived will probably stay in the storyline for a little longer, as there are still some Bohrok waiting to be defeated. I don't think the Bahrag will come back into the storyline, although the Exo and Boxor probably will.

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I think that the Boxor, Exo, Bohrok, Bohrok Va and maybe the Bahrag are useless to the story. Why did Lego make them when they last only a short time.

As we found out with the Exo-Toa, the products are developed independantly of the storyline.  The product development team designs stuff and passes it on to the story team, who gets to figure out how it should be made to fit in with everything else we've seen previously.  I know for a fact that the story team was not aware that the Exo-Toa wouldn't work with every Toa, so they wrote six of them into the storyline.  I suspect that this is the reason why the Exo-Toa were written out of the story so fast.

Now, as for the Bahrag, we know they are the equivalent of a Level Boss from a video game.  You wade through the hordes of Bohrok and Bohrok Va, and finally face off against the Bahrag.  Once the good guys walk into a room with the head bad guys, they typically aren't allowed to walk out again until they've beaten them.  Or at least until they seem like they've beaten them...

There's a small possibility that after the Bahrag are defeated they might crawl into the liquid protodermis and become something a WHOLE LOT WORSE. But this is unsupported. The things behind Tahu Nuva are unnamed, unknown, and unsupportedly anything until 2003 when Lego finally gives up the info (or lets whatever it is out of the bag, literally!. Besides, the best part about buying all these sets is the spare parts! If we read the storyline, then didn't get any sets to go with it, we'd get pretty mad, am I right?

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Well, noone's throwing out their Toa Olda, right? The storyline introduces many sets, but that doesn't mean the sets are the main support for the storyline (although the products are there first, as PD says). The main thing about a toy is not necessarily the new parts or the story, it's rather the fun you have with it. If it ain't fun, it ain't a toy.

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As we found out with the Exo-Toa, the products are developed independantly of the storyline.  The product development team designs stuff and passes it on to the story team, who gets to figure out how it should be made to fit in with everything else we've seen previously.  I know for a fact that the story team was not aware that the Exo-Toa wouldn't work with every Toa, so they wrote six of them into the storyline.  I suspect that this is the reason why the Exo-Toa were written out of the story so fast.

I thought that was kind of funny in the seventh comic, how they were able to avoid showing the non-fitting Exo Toa.  It would be really hard to do over multiple issues, though.

I remember seeing an instruction scan from the Exo-Toa (on your site, IIRC) showing Tahu Nuva in the Exo.  What makes you think the Exo-Toa are out of the story, if we've seen evidence for the Toa Nuva using them?  I haven't seen the eigth comic yet, so if the Exos are destroyed in the fight with the Bahrag, don't spoil it for me.

If the storyline writers have no influence on introducing new sets, I doubt they have any say in discontinuing them either.  I'm guessing the Exo-Toa will be around for a while even without being in the story.

Firstly, the thing about the Bahrag is that my theory is simple: Anything that falls into the Protodermis merges.

The Toa Nuva get their core from the Toa.
They get their armour from the Exo.
And they get their agressiveness from the Bahrag/Krana.

It's so simple! They all fall into the Protodermis at one point, but as the Toa were the last beings to enter the Protodermis they were the only ones to emerge.

And Spinosaur, that scan of the Nuva in the Exo is wrong. The Exos get destroyed and besides, the Nuva don't need an Exo. They are just showing you that for playing reasons.

They boxor, exo, and bahrag may not have had the biggest roll in the storyline but they are way awesome sets. Still, it would have been nice if they could have kept them involved for a while longer.

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The Exos get destroyed and besides, the Nuva don't need an Exo

I told you to not post spoilers.  

actually the exo isnt out gregf said it will be in the storyline next year to he said the toa nuva will need more power because the next enamies are powerfull and intelagent they will need the exos power and frankly im really happy they kept it in cause its the coolest big set and idea for more power.

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Well on MoD I read that the Turaga had limited production runs. Also, as kanohi of indescribable power said, what do mean by"Part of the Bahrag still survives in the Toa Nuva." Were you thinking about the phrase "Will the Toa Nuva's power save Mata Nui... Or destroy it?" The sets which appear to be shortlived will probably stay in the storyline for a little longer, as there are still some Bohrok waiting to be defeated. I don't think the Bahrag will come back into the storyline, although the Exo and Boxor probably will.

i believe the exo toa will survive in raptor form and protect each corresponding city. the toa and exo-raptors will lead armys of b. punchers and b. choppers to deafeat the new enemy

heck, the exos might have intelligence and are able to change form at will! then they could fight the new enemy without hindering the elemental forces of the toa

just a thought: maybe,in the future episodes, the nuva lost the battle and found the vahi to go back in time to team up with the olda and deafeat what ever is out there.

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I think that the Boxor, Exo, Bohrok, Bohrok Va and maybe the Bahrag are useless to the story. Why did Lego make them when they last only a short time. The Boxor is only an accessery, and it is not vital to the story. The Exo is not neccessery to it either, considering that in the end the Toa defeat the Bahrag armourless, and they only last for a short while until the Toa get fed up with them. The Bohrok and Bohrok Va only exist as something to keep the Toa turned on while the Makuta 'recharges', although Bohrok Nuva might come into this if the hive floods with Protodermis. Bahrag are again useless, only existing to be a substitute enemy for the Toa, but again, part of the Bahrag still survives, in the form of the Toa Nuva. So what do you think? Useless or Useful? A good idea or a bad one? Tell me!

By your logic,the only sets that would be created would be the Toa,and the masks


And think about it,if they got rid of the Bohrok as toys,then why not the Rahi? i know they lasted longer,but they were still defeated

there is no such thing as a short lived set in bionicle.
the rahi are natural creatures of mata-nui. the bohrok are always finding ways to get more krana. the b. punchers and b. choppers are the new force of defence in all of the villages.

I think the bahrag was enter in the protodermis and transform or in bahrag nuva or the spider (the molten between cahdok and gahdok)

the entire story line revolves around the fact that all the elements in the world of bionicle are constant. nothing is moved away. there is always an alternate importance to everything