Mixtar Acid Toa
Aug 3 2008, 11:54 PM
If a Toa goes against the Toa code, they aren't a Toa anymore right? (I am never-ever saying Toa that many times again.) So then, if there are Toa who broke the code, where would they go? Or something like that... And also, what if there are bad elements, like my own, (Acid), Smoke, Fear, Hunger, or any of the Rahkshi powers? Or, for the matter, negative versions of the elements? Because, if there are more than just six elements, then couldn't there be a chance that new elements could be bad? Just a random thought though.
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Rookie
Aug 4 2008, 03:01 AM
If a Toa went bad, he would either join the Dark Hunters and wander the world like Lesovikk did. I doubt there would be a Toa of Acid or Toa of Hunger.
Bunda bunda bunda bunda
Aug 4 2008, 03:30 AM
Acid is not an element, and Smoke is the product of Fire... and anyway, Shadow could do pretty much the same things as Smoke.
On the dark elements... that wouldn't reall make sense. Why would anyone create a dark group of Matoran? I dunno, they might, but...
Yeah.
But there does seem to be some kind of Shadow-mirror thing, as seen in the ending of Tale of the Toa.
BtB
Taka-kun
Aug 4 2008, 06:45 AM
When a Toa goes bad, their element don't change (see Nidhiki) and the only element that is considered evil is Shadow. Yeah, Hunger, Fear and Acid is not good either, but Greg has said that Acid is not a Toa element. I'm not sure Fear and Hunger are elements.
Zeddy
Aug 4 2008, 07:08 AM
If a Toa went against the Toa Code, he won't stop being a Toa.
And Fear and Hunger are Makuta Powers, along with Shadow, not real elements. So there can be no such Toa.
Also, you might be better of PMing Greg with some of these questions.
Airoski
Aug 4 2008, 08:28 AM
If the Toa did that he would wander, like Lesovikk, or join the DH.
qwertyuiopasdfghjkl
Aug 4 2008, 09:21 AM
I'm guessing that they would still count as Toa, but they may not see themselves as Toa, like Lesovikk. Also, all those "elements" are simply powers, like acid or vacuum.
Hayden866
~Hihkan
Aug 4 2008, 09:29 AM
there is no evil element, toa represent the goodness, and light. THey have positive, go-lucky powers. I've killed Geno on numerous occasions, and I'm still a toa
zhalath
Aug 4 2008, 11:03 AM
The element of shadow is evil, so a Toa of Shadow would be evil.
I don't think there is a such thing as a "fallen Toa", or at least there's no loss of powers, paladin-style.
~Zhalath
Ferhago
Aug 4 2008, 12:24 PM
Toa is a species, so a bad Toa wouldn't stop being one..
But besides shadow, I doubt if there are any 'bad' elements. All the Rahkshi powers aren't, because there are Toa of Lightning, and there are Rahkshi that can do lightning..
Kopakajp
Aug 10 2008, 01:56 PM
There could be a "bad" Toa if a shadow matoran got a toa stone, right?
Riisiing Moon
Aug 10 2008, 08:45 PM
If a Toa killed, he would probably be banished or something, but only depending on who and why he killed. Let's say Tahu kills Teridax. That's bad, but more than understandable. Let's say Tahu accidentally kills a Matoran. That's just bad. Everyone would get angry at him, but not enough to banish him or anything. Let's say Tahu just plain kills a Matoran. That's bad. Tahu gets thrown off the team. As for the second part of the topic, I don't think there are any 'bad' elements, other than shadow. But only because an element has to have a physical form to be a real element. I wouldn't consider fear or hunger elements, since they're only in the mind and don't actually exist in reality and in the physical world.
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