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All theorizing on the Bohrok Kal will now go in this thread. All others will be closed.
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Welll, conting about the bohork kal pic in the insturctions, I think when it says"The power lies beneeth" it could be talking about the kal, not the protodermis, not makutu, not cadok and gadok(sp?). But then I guess it is wrong to say "When you wake one, you wake them all" isn't it? 
Just a note guys. The Bahrag are still trying to get out of their
protodermis prison, and have not escaped.
protodermis prison, and have not escaped.
my theroy is that the borok were makutas secert take over matinui weapon(not back up plan) and that when the barag(which i belive are two borok that secretly found a way two live without krana and became stronger and tricked the six borok kal who i think were the boroks leaders before the toa deafeated makuta and lived in secrcey)into a long long hibernation which ended shortly after the toa sealed away the barag (who had worked with makuta to trick them)and they now seek revenge but the toa think they are evil and try to deafeat them so they simply battle the toa so they can have there revenge.
Okay, I've just noticed all other Kal topics are being closed. My apologies, Kaiapu. I'll continue here.
As I said in a different (unofficial) topic, I believe that the Bohrok Kal came first: they tried to create creatures in their image, but without succes: the Bohrok had elemental powers, yes, but no life force. This forced them into a partnership with the Bahrag, who created the Krana, giving the Bohrok life.
Unfortunately, the Bahrag planned on taking power over the Bohrok by means of the Krana, and locked the Kal in protodermite cages.
The Bahrag were, however, confronted with Makuta, who did away with the Bahrag, putting them into a deep sleep like he had done with Mata Nui. The Bohrok he sealed in pods, planning on using them when the Toa had been defeated, to destroy the island of his brother.
He hadn't planned on being defeated, and he could not gain power over the Bohrok as they were unleashed. The Bahrag were awakened by the sudden activity of their brethren, and assumed power over the Krana, and thus over the Bohrok.
Just my theory, though I think it makes sense this way.
As I said in a different (unofficial) topic, I believe that the Bohrok Kal came first: they tried to create creatures in their image, but without succes: the Bohrok had elemental powers, yes, but no life force. This forced them into a partnership with the Bahrag, who created the Krana, giving the Bohrok life.
Unfortunately, the Bahrag planned on taking power over the Bohrok by means of the Krana, and locked the Kal in protodermite cages.
The Bahrag were, however, confronted with Makuta, who did away with the Bahrag, putting them into a deep sleep like he had done with Mata Nui. The Bohrok he sealed in pods, planning on using them when the Toa had been defeated, to destroy the island of his brother.
He hadn't planned on being defeated, and he could not gain power over the Bohrok as they were unleashed. The Bahrag were awakened by the sudden activity of their brethren, and assumed power over the Krana, and thus over the Bohrok.
Just my theory, though I think it makes sense this way.
My theory, as I too said in an "unofficial" topic, is that at the beginning of time the bohrok kal existed and they wanted to clone themselves (for some reason unknown to me) and created the Bahrag 
. Except then it went out of control and the bohrok were created. The bohrok kal put all of them into a deep sleep and some of the sleep stuff rubbed into the bohrok kal and they were asleep the whole time but the earthquake that was created after the toa nuva were and that awakened the bohrok kal and thats where the story starts.
. Except then it went out of control and the bohrok were created. The bohrok kal put all of them into a deep sleep and some of the sleep stuff rubbed into the bohrok kal and they were asleep the whole time but the earthquake that was created after the toa nuva were and that awakened the bohrok kal and thats where the story starts.
First im going to say...
GregF :
So the Kal mos likely have nothing to do with protodermis...
now i think that the bohrok kal could POSSIBLY be good guys
i mean look at what he said:
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well this just makes me suspicious that scince the nuva seem to have group problems they might split upand become very independend... and evil... and the kal were the heros of the island before the toa and the makuta banished them to... whereever they are.......
and now they have awakned and know of the threat that is the toa.
make any sence ?
GregF :
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| They are not "Bohrok Nuva." Bohrok Nuva would be Bohrok who were exposed to something -- probably protodermis -- and mutated. The Bohrok-Kal have always existed, but they were not a part of the swarm's attack this year. |
So the Kal mos likely have nothing to do with protodermis...
now i think that the bohrok kal could POSSIBLY be good guys
i mean look at what he said:
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| and the first foe to actually defeat Toa or Toa Nuva. |
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| They are not here to destroy the island. |
well this just makes me suspicious that scince the nuva seem to have group problems they might split upand become very independend... and evil... and the kal were the heros of the island before the toa and the makuta banished them to... whereever they are.......
and now they have awakned and know of the threat that is the toa.
make any sence ?
|V|atoro that make sence very much sence!But Kaiapu I though Bionicle Rex said that there wasn't to be an Oficial Topic?Anyway I have no theopry I don't wan't to be called a loser like always
Here's my topic about Bohrok Kal and the Nuva symbols, don't know if you'll close it or not.
I think the Kal awaken as soon as the Bahrag are trapped. The Bahrag were holding them back until the Bohrok were finished on their mission, because GregF said the Kal are on a totally different mission.
SK, I like your theory! I hope LEGO explains all and soon.
I think the Kal awaken as soon as the Bahrag are trapped. The Bahrag were holding them back until the Bohrok were finished on their mission, because GregF said the Kal are on a totally different mission.
SK, I like your theory! I hope LEGO explains all and soon.
The Bohrok are getting "Thin and stretched, like butter over too much toast" so I doubt they will make this a major story. The Kal are probably just special edition Bohrok with their own mini story. If they reuse the Bohrok for the whole 2003 line, I'm forming an angry mob and going to Billund. 
What do you think the elements of the Bohrok Kal are? I think Pahrak Kal's power will be Acid and Tahnok Kal's power will be Carbon Dioxide. Acid can melt stone, and CO2 can wipe out Fire.
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| What do you think the elements of the Bohrok Kal are? I think Pahrak Kal's power will be Acid and Tahnok Kal's power will be Carbon Dioxide. Acid can melt stone, and CO2 can wipe out Fire. |
Acid is already the 'normal' Lehvak's power. I don't see why they would switch it. And isn't CO2 the result of fire? It will only extinguish it when all oxygen has been burnt, or am I wrong? I'm not much of chemist.
CO2 is given off by fire, when it burns a carbonic substance but CO2 can put fire out, by smothering. CO2 pockets have exploded in the earth and killed entire villages by forcing out O2, since C02 is heavier. Anyway, someone said that some of the Kal powers were sound and gravity, so stuff like that. Sounds to me like super hero powers. AquaMan and SpaceGhost stuff... Hannah-Barbara rehash in form of Lego? This could get grisly.
I have one question, why KAL, why are they called "BOHROK KAL", WHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHY... 
I think it means "old" or "original".
I think it means "old" or "original".
Well, I'm sure we'll find out WHY they're called Kal, but I think it's fine. And about the meaning, you said old- that makes sense since the Kal have been around for a long time.
I like the LotR quote. They won't take up all the 2003 line, in fact by July it should be over. Greg says that the new-new enemies will be in July. Can't wait.
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| The Bohrok are getting "Thin and stretched, like butter over too much toast" so I doubt they will make this a major story. The Kal are probably just special edition Bohrok with their own mini story. If they reuse the Bohrok for the whole 2003 line, I'm forming an angry mob and going to Billund. |
I like the LotR quote. They won't take up all the 2003 line, in fact by July it should be over. Greg says that the new-new enemies will be in July. Can't wait.
Anyone know Magyar or Czech? It seems "Borok" and "Kal" both mean something in those languages. In the closed topic, someone suggested Kal might mean sludge...
I found a pair of English-Hungarian online dictionaries
http://dict.sztaki.hu/english-hungarian
http://www.freedict.com/onldict/hun.html
and from the second one it seems "bor" has something to do with wine :-) Maybe the connection is that the Bohrok were kept in jars :-)
I also found an online Czech-English dictionary...
http://www.slovnik.cz/bin/ecd
and among some very unpleasant denotations, there is one that might be relevant: dregs, or lees, the sediment that one finds at the bottom of the wine bottle.
I wonder if the name "Bohrok-Kal" is thus a hybrid, meaning "bottom of the barrel"...
I found a pair of English-Hungarian online dictionaries
http://dict.sztaki.hu/english-hungarian
http://www.freedict.com/onldict/hun.html
and from the second one it seems "bor" has something to do with wine :-) Maybe the connection is that the Bohrok were kept in jars :-)
I also found an online Czech-English dictionary...
http://www.slovnik.cz/bin/ecd
and among some very unpleasant denotations, there is one that might be relevant: dregs, or lees, the sediment that one finds at the bottom of the wine bottle.
I wonder if the name "Bohrok-Kal" is thus a hybrid, meaning "bottom of the barrel"...
I doubt Lego would give such a powerful enemy such a degrading name: (SK impersonates cheesy talkshow host) "These are the strongest Bohrok the Toa will ever face... Presenting: the lowest of the lowest, the Bohrok Kal!"
The barrel thing sounds interesting, though, since the Bohrok were in pods.
Using the Czech translator you provided, I came across 'borec', which means athlete, champion.
The barrel thing sounds interesting, though, since the Bohrok were in pods.
Using the Czech translator you provided, I came across 'borec', which means athlete, champion.
i wonder what there abbilities are
| Quote (lumkins @ Oct. 30 2002, 11:54) |
| i wonder what there abbilities are |
Some powers we know of, are gravity and sound, so you'll have to look in that direction. I'm gessing gravity is for Lehvak Kal, because it's anti-levitation, so as to beat Lewa. Sound would be Tahnok Kal's powers in my book, because it's the only attack that can get through a Hau.
Hey, this actually makes sense. I think.
Hey, guys, lots of people have been asking about the Bohrok-Kal powers.. and while I hate giving stuff away, I have made it kind of a tradition to give you guys some info at the end of the week (so you can chew on it all weekend ..)
So here are the two powers I gave you, with their Bohrok-Kal .. and two more powers...
Kohrak-Kal -- Sound
Nuhvok-Kal -- Gravity
Gahlok-Kal -- Magnetism
Tahnok-Kal -- Electricity
Greg
So here are the two powers I gave you, with their Bohrok-Kal .. and two more powers...
Kohrak-Kal -- Sound
Nuhvok-Kal -- Gravity
Gahlok-Kal -- Magnetism
Tahnok-Kal -- Electricity
Greg
YESSSSSSS! Those are awesome powers! Think of the potential here! I can't wait to see them in action! But what's the justification for who has which ability! Maybe there is none! That doesn't matter! (I don't like to use so many !!!!!!!!, but the way I feel right now, it was the only way.)
quote 'YESSSSSSS! Those are awesome powers!'
wot about the outher 2?
don't they get there powers from Krana (brains)?
wot about the outher 2?
don't they get there powers from Krana (brains)?
Bio Man,
The Bohrok-Kal, like the Bohrok, get some powers from their krana -- like the radar sense, tunneling ability, etc. that the Bohrok got. But their elemental powers -- in the case of the original Bohrok, fire, ice, water, acid, earth, and stone -- are not tied to the krana, but to the type of Bohrok it is.
So a Tahnok could have any krana under his faceplate, and still have fire powers. Same with the Bohrok-Kal... it doesn't matter which krana-kal they have, their elemental powers stay the same.
Greg
The Bohrok-Kal, like the Bohrok, get some powers from their krana -- like the radar sense, tunneling ability, etc. that the Bohrok got. But their elemental powers -- in the case of the original Bohrok, fire, ice, water, acid, earth, and stone -- are not tied to the krana, but to the type of Bohrok it is.
So a Tahnok could have any krana under his faceplate, and still have fire powers. Same with the Bohrok-Kal... it doesn't matter which krana-kal they have, their elemental powers stay the same.
Greg
| Quote (zordy271 @ Oct. 28 2002, 11:20) |
| my theroy is that the borok were makutas secert take over matinui weapon(not back up plan) and that when the barag(which i belive are two borok that secretly found a way two live without krana and became stronger and tricked the six borok kal who i think were the boroks leaders before the toa deafeated makuta and lived in secrcey)into a long long hibernation which ended shortly after the toa sealed away the barag (who had worked with makuta to trick them)and they now seek revenge but the toa think they are evil and try to deafeat them so they simply battle the toa so they can have there revenge. |
The Bahrag created the Krana and then they created a machine to transport them,the Bohrok,they are mechanical.
The Bohrok-Kal is another thing.
Probably they are ancient Bohrok or Bohrok(the machines) who evolved into something more biological.
Makuta has nothing to do with the Bohrok nor the Bahrag nor the Krana
| Quote (GregF]it doesn't matter which krana-kal they have @ their elemental powers stay the same[/quote) | ||||||||||
Do you mean that there will be more than one kind of Krana-Kal The Bohrok-Kal are unique but you just said that there are more than one species of Krana-Kal,so why do the Bohrok need more Krana-Kal? And why can't you tell us all the 6 "new" powers
Thanks now its all clear
 BUT the other 2! quote: Kohrak-Kal -- Sound Nuhvok-Kal -- Gravity Gahlok-Kal -- Magnetism Tahnok-Kal -- Electricity Pahrak-kal-- ? Lehvak-kal-- ? wot about the Va- new power as well?
This is what I think, in the before time the bohrok kal lived happily than the bahrag came and turned them evil but the island would soon be poulated with matoran so the bahrag cloned the bohrok kal and fitted them with the krana theyed created and put them all into a deep sleep only to awaken when it was time to take back the island.
Thanks Greg! That's awesome info!
There won't be Bohrok Va Kal, if I'm not mistaken. No new sidekicks for a while yet.
hey greg said to me in a pm that there would be 48 krana again but hes not sure about the shapes or colour etc
yeah what about pahrak kal and lehvak kal's powers
I think I have figured it out... the Bohrok Kal are just the missing link. they must have a society like the Matoran. Here is the rank list if my theory is true:
Bahrag (2) / Mata Nui & Makuta | Bohrok Kal (6) / Toa | Bohrok (Countless) / Turaga | Bohrok Va (Countless) / Matoran
I think I have it. Before the Bahrag were trapped, they said this was meant to happen. The Toa were meant to become "Nuva". But why would the Bahrag give the Toa all of this power, some may ask. Well, by opening the Protodermis tunnels, a powerful enemy was released. An enemy that lives and swims in the Protodermis, the Bohrok Kal! The Bahrag knew that by opening the tunnels of the protodermis, they would release the only foe to beat the Toa Nuva!
What do ya think...?
Those new powers sound amazing!! I wonder what the two others are...............Well, looks like well have to wait.
Okay, I know why the Bohrok-Kal have these powers
Kohrak-Kal: A loud sound can start AVALANCHES! Nuhvok-Kal: Gravity can LIFT Onua out of his caves underground and into the sunlight which can damage his eyes. Tahnok-Kal: Lightning can star severe FIRES which can do damage. Gahlok-Kal: Magnitisim can create severe underwater CURRENTS. Kind of like the Burmuda Triangle -Jamahki
A question. Are Bohrok-Kal related with the original Bohrok. And what are the another two Kals power, Greg?
this is just a guess, but maybe the
Lehvak-Kal's power is... poison, which can pollute AIR which lewa needs, and Pahrak-Kal is... maybe pahrak-kal has the sound and not kohrak-kal. sound can be used, if loud enough, to break ANY hard material, even STONE! or diamonds.
Wow!(And again)Wow! You must be kidding. But you still better than me, because you have a good imagination(and I don't have...).
wait, if pahrak-kal has sound, kohrak-kal must have, um, vibrating feet to aid in causing avalanches! yes, constant movement!
Can you explain in more detail? I am not quite understand what are you talking about.
I think that he means that the Kohrak Kal would vibrate and that would cause avelanches. But I think it would be the other way aroung, because GregF said that the Kohrak Kal has the power of sound, so maybe the Pahrak Kal would vibrates.
I think these are the powers of the other two:
Lehvak-Kal:Plant or poison Pahrak-Kal:Metal or diamond which can break rocks Metal i think would be a good choice for lego, because if Pohatu kicked metal, it wold no come apart at all. -Jamahki
Those seem like great powers for 'em, but if I may: these are not scientific/physical powers, like the ones given: gravity, sound, magnetism, electricity. The other two will probably be along those lines. I'd go with: Lehvak Kal: deflection or refraction and Pahrak Kal: acceleration, density or collision. Those are my ideas for now, I might come up with something better at a later time.
theres something wierd here the toa, toa nuva, and borok have elemental powers such as fire, ice ect. but the borok-kal have forces of nature not elements
Well Thats kinda expected LN they are more powerfull and in order for them to stand a chance with a nuva they need powers that counteract the nuvas powers.
This is sweet!!
 The new powers are alot better than the Toa's or the Bohrok's powers. I knew Lego would come through with something fantastic like this. I am definitly going to buy the Bohrok Kal now.I think that the new powers might be Lehvak Kal: Poison, Toxin, motion to the motionless, total invisibility(none of the Predator stuff), telekenetic (Jedi). Pahrak Kal: motion to the motionless I coudn't think of anything else for Pahrak Kal after sitting there for 10 minutes. what I mean for motion to the motionless is that Lehvak Kal would touch a vine or anything and the vine would come sentient and and do Lehvak Kal's biding.(like strangle Lewa ) I think that that would be really cool espcially for Pahrak Kal.  
what i was wondering was why do the hand shield look like the normal bohroks elements if their elements are different?
-Apothys
That's what I want to know. Why does Tahnok-Kal have flames on the claws?
Ah, good question (nothing gets past you guys
 )... part of the reason that some of the elements look the same is that these Bohrok-Kal were once like the Bohrok you know... and then they were "elevated" above the rest of the swarm, made elite, and granted new powers. So parts of them still look the same and connect them to the swarms they came from, other parts have mutated to show that they are Kal...Greg
Thanks for clearing that up, Greg. Makes some sense.
Good explaination, GregF. But how about Bohrok-Nuva? Will they appear in the next chapter?
Interesting, the Bohrok-Kal are an elite team of Bohrok. I can think of three reason why they didn't fight with the rest of the Bohrok:
Also, Comic 9 began to confuse me when it came to the power of the Kal. When the Kal are in the cave, Tahnok-Kal looks to shot plasma to etch out "KAL" in the wall. I suppose this could have been electricity/lightning-like plasma, but it didn't really look like a bolt. Also, when Kohrak goes after Kopaka's symbol, he deters Matoro by making him heavier. I guess Nuhvok-Kal could be with Kohrak, but it looked like he was alone. Can't wait to see what happens next.
Maybe the Exo will play a part in defeating the Kal...
Greg said the Exo's coming back early 2003, maybe the Exo have a secret power or something.. This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
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