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ExoToa the Bad
[ First off I want to clarify this is not a topic saying : well Takua has to be the TOL because ,because , because
I wanted to put all the real evidence together and update it when nessesary. So This is (Hopfully) not a dupe topic and second im not stealing ideas im just putiing them together(And if any on knows or is the people who posted some of this evidence PM me and ill be happy to include you in the credits) so with that all behind here it goes

I have been reasearching BZP ,Bionicle.com and other sites and heres what I came up with

1. Greg F. said that " A Matoran gets its name changed in a ceremony after a hroic deed hence the name Huwkii,Jaller and so forth.
Taka as in Takanuva is eriely close to Takua mabe the name Taka is a name change from Takua

2.
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A hero will be chosen
well because its a bad idea to my thinking that a toa will transfrom into the toa of light.
it has to be a Matoran ,and since there is no Matoran that plays Heroic role as big is Takua (Except mabe Jala) it does say somthing

3. some proof that a Toa will not become the TOL is this
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can the islanders use the Mask of Light to triumph over darkness and put an end to Makuta's rule?
this was from the the advertisment on the buzz. Since the Toa are not really islanders (Or villagers) because the come from the hevens it means that no Toa will become the TOL

4. Who was the only Matoran to see the makuta vs Toa battle TAKUA! that means somthing

5.Transfromation from one charater to a more powerfull onr is massivly popular eg.
Toa nuva ,Exo Toa, Transformors ,Digimon (ugh),Pokemon(ugh),DBZ,Gundam etc so we have to say that the TOL is not a prexcistant entity

6. Takua has never been involed fully with the other villages and doesn't really live in one ( Even though Takoro is his official one)
so that is perfect fort the toa with an element that hasn't been in the story line so far.

7.
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Okay, first off, I NEVER said that Takua was the Seventh Toa -- please do not misquote me. Who and what the seventh Toa might be is a movie plot point, and as everyone knows, I am not answering questions on the movie yet.
Do you really think he said Takua wasn't the TOL (Seventh Toa) if you do you must have suffered a bad brain injury (Like I did this afternoon) My Analasis (Misspelled) is that he said something like "I never said he was the TOL but he could be" Greg doesn't answer movie plot qeustions so if that was substantial Answer he would be fired (Or worse! bored.gif )
See this is like when you say to your parents I want a ExoToa for chrismas so a big Box Arrives and you say "Thats my exo! Thats my exo!" And your parents say "I never said it was a Exotoa, Mabe its socks." but when you open it it is the exo.See when the say that there stalling you and building the suspention.

8 (Thanks to BioScape03 for this ) Whelp. Some of you might remember my topic about a Toa transforming into the ToL. After collecting weeks worth of evidence, and 10 pages replies, GregF came in a told me up. So it's definately true that no Toa turns into the ToL. You can add it to your list that GregF said it himself. Infact, I'm gonna quote him:
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No, thank you for playing. There is a Seventh Toa appearing in the movie .. he is not an old Toa changed. He is a new Toa. The reason a name has not been announced for the Mask of Light yet is a) the Legal dept. still has to clear the name through all its trademark checks and it is too early to release the name anyway.


UPDATE! 9
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I never said Takua was or was not the Toa of Light .. what I have said is that Gali is not the Toa of Light (she's the Toa of water), and that the Seventh Toa is not Mata Nui. I can't discuss who or what the Toa of Light is or is not, because I would lose my BIONICLE story team secret decoder ring
ok this was from Greg F And it brings up the Takua is the TOL topic YES!






i will update this with more later


ET
Albel Nox
These are great theories, ExoToa! And how you've collected all this evidence. Geez, you should be a Lawyer biggrin.gif
I personally Believe that Takua has the potential to be the TOL, but like you said earlier, this isn't a topic of wether he should or shouldn't be. I'm just commenting to say how good your theory is, and that you've go evidence to prove your statements. cool.gif
HauNuva
As Slash said, you should be a lawyer! This is a great collection of theories. I think you're probably right, there's not much one can say against your argument.
Kanohi of Indescribable Power
Wow, you've got a good argument there. Some of the people who made these topics post one fact and that's all but this good. Frankly, I don't like the idea of anyone becoming the Toa of light. I think that the mask of light should simply summon another Toa from where ever the first Toa came from.
Makuta Master
QUOTE (ExoToa @ Feb 15 2003, 02:47 AM)
1. Greg F. said that " A Matoran gets its name changed in a ceremony after a hroic deed hence the name Huwkii,Jaller and so forth.

He said that? Can you give me a link to this? Did I miss that somehow?

Those are all good theories, Exo. You are using the S&T for what it's meant for. Good job. But you are leaving out one important piece of info.

The Defense would like to present this as evidence. GregF said that Takua was not the ToL. Also, it has been reported on BZPNews that the Takanuva is actually the name of the ToL's ride. So, if Greg has said this, why should we believe otherwise? He's up there getting all this info. It's an honor that he shares what he can with us. So why should we try to prove him wrong?

The Defense rests, your honor.
Lord Makuta
That is one groovin, stoovin, movin Theory, ExoToa! Although I do have some thoughts.
In the MNOLG, you Are Takua.
Huriko Larelath
QUOTE (Makuta Master @ Feb 15 2003, 07:11 AM)
QUOTE (ExoToa @ Feb 15 2003, 02:47 AM)
1. Greg F. said that " A Matoran gets its name changed in a ceremony after a hroic deed  hence the name Huwkii,Jaller and so forth.

He said that? Can you give me a link to this? Did I miss that somehow?

Those are all good theories, Exo. You are using the S&T for what it's meant for. Good job. But you are leaving out one important piece of info.

The Defense would like to present this as evidence. GregF said that Takua was not the ToL. Also, it has been reported on BZPNews that the Takanuva is actually the name of the ToL's ride. So, if Greg has said this, why should we believe otherwise? He's up there getting all this info. It's an honor that he shares what he can with us. So why should we try to prove him wrong?

The Defense rests, your honor.

I have counter-evidence for that.

A direct quote from GregF.

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Takanuva is not the vehicle.

Greg


Takanuva isn't the vehicle, so there. happy.gif

Takua isn't the ToL, because he gets his name changed before he becomes the ToL. So the character si the ToL, but Takua isn't, 'cause he gets his name changed. If you follow me.........

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burningFlameSword
Woa, take this to a supreme court, your honer, but Greg says Takua is not the ToL...Darn...Is there any objections to the evedence? Is there any whitnesses?
ZDigiToaIM
Those are some really good arguments, but most of that stuff is known by now. I agree that Takua HAS to be the ToL, it just makes the most sense!

Those are great things to back it up, though!
burningFlameSword
So what does the jury think? biggrin.gif If Greg was here...
I think it could be Hahli or Takua, or both... wacko.gif
Algernon
so I am the toa of light? laugh.gif good theories. I hope takua turns into a toa! takanuva here I come!
Lord Makuta
Here you come? I will crush and cripple you before you even say,
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Hey, Mod. Please close this topic.
sly.gif
Aragorn the Great
laugh.gif LOL
Kopaka Avenger
I personally agree with what you said. But only time will tell the truth.
ExoToa the Bad
thanks for the feed back everyone!

ive never thought about beeing a lawer hmmmmmm
unsure.gif

update is up
Mischief Mecha
Whelp. Some of you might remember my topic about a Toa transforming into the ToL. After collecting weeks worth of evidence, and 10 pages replies, GregF came in a told me up. So it's definately true that no Toa turns into the ToL. You can add it to your list that GregF said it himself. Infact, I'm gonna quote him:

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No, thank you for playing. There is a Seventh Toa appearing in the movie .. he is not an old Toa changed. He is a new Toa. The reason a name has not been announced for the Mask of Light yet is a) the Legal dept. still has to clear the name through all its trademark checks and it is too early to release the name anyway.


So anyways, get this topic on the Hot Topics list, wait for GregF to see it, and let him come support you, or prove you wrong. Then we'll have to come up with more theories! tongue.gif [Sorry if that for some reason sounded rude, cuz it wasn't meant that way]

and BTW, thanx for actually putting up evidence. I rarely see that. People always just type the theory in two and a half sentences, and never back it up! BZP needs more great minds like you! Keep it up!!

#BS03
ExoToa the Bad
Thanx

Well that encourages all of you to post as much info and help in here so this can become ahot topic!

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LOL

legomyego21 please don't one word post.

Edit: Update is up
ExoToa the Bad
Sorry for the DP but YES! good concrete proof that greg didn't say that he wasn't the TOL

Go to the first post!
Matu
im confused wacko.gif
Toa Of Osiris
Wow, good thoery . That's reallly good theory!
Timekeeper
sorry for just butting in but i have a theory that can in someways support bioscape03 and exotoa's theory.




an additional power to the molis transformation.you may transform between whoever you are an the tol.but only the first person to wear the mol gains this ability.takua is seen having th mol close to his face so lets assume he puts it on.he will not know his gift until his friends are in danger or something of the sort and the poweres activate.this explains it so there is no useless characters
p.s.great theory.hope this helps!


-tl
Comet Ball Traitor
This is a good theory but I think you are wrong. Lego is giving out way to many clips of Takua with the MOL for it to be true. They would never give out all that evidence of who the TOL is so early. So basicaly they're setting you up to believe this so the movie is a suprise and I think Gregf in on this with them. cool.gif

Don't you love conspiracies rolleyes.gif
ExoToa the Bad
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This is a good theory but I think you are wrong. Lego is giving out way to many clips of Takua with the MOL for it to be true. They would never give out all that evidence of who the TOL is so early. So basicaly they're setting you up to believe this so the movie is a suprise and I think Gregf in on this with them. 

Ofcourse lego didn't intend for smart people (like me biggrin.gif ) To figure these things out. I belive the Triler was intended fot young veiwers in the SK2 movie. That way the trailer would be so fast that it would be hard to recognize any thing exept Vakama, and the Toa (Makuta's true form wasn't visible) I bet it to the Admin a play backs (Just like me) to get the slide show together

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sorry for just butting in but i have a theory that can in someways support bioscape03 and exotoa's theory.an additional power to the molis transformation.you may transform between whoever you are an the tol.but only the first person to wear the mol gains this ability.takua is seen having th mol close to his face so lets assume he puts it on.he will not know his gift until his friends are in danger or something of the sort and the poweres activate.this explains it so there is no useless characters
p.s.great theory.hope this helps


Actually i prefer to be named ET or ExoToa (With the capital letters and all)

Anyway Great theory Ill put it up in the top in alittle while

Comet Ball Traitor
QUOTE (ExoToa @ Feb 22 2003, 10:08 AM)
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This is a good theory but I think you are wrong. Lego is giving out way to many clips of Takua with the MOL for it to be true. They would never give out all that evidence of who the TOL is so early. So basicaly they're setting you up to believe this so the movie is a suprise and I think Gregf in on this with them. 

Ofcourse lego didn't intend for smart people (like me biggrin.gif ) To figure these things out. I belive the Triler was intended fot young veiwers in the SK2 movie. That way the trailer would be so fast that it would be hard to recognize any thing exept Vakama, and the Toa (Makuta's true form wasn't visible) I bet it to the Admin a play backs (Just like me) to get the slide show together


Smart blink.gif half of the trailer is Takua with the Mask of Light and since Gregf is holding on to info so carefully I don't think Lego going to release the TOL in one trailer rolleyes.gif they are definantly leading you on a wild goose chase laugh.gif
burningFlameSword
Now, knowing LEGO, it'll be a duck chase instead, but is there a point in the topic, didn't Greg say Takua wasn't the ToL? wacko.gif
ExoToa the Bad
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didn't Greg say Takua wasn't the ToL?


No Go up to #9 on my list of proof (First post)
King Luvak
I don't think so.

Greg said No Matoran will rise to a Toa. He said the only Transformation is the Jala to Jallar and the other guys. People think that Takua will get his name changed to Taka then when he turns into the ToL his name is Taka Nuva. That Nuva dosen't have to mean Nuvalization. My name could be Bobby and you could say he got his name changed to Bobnuva. That doesn't mean Nuva.

Tahu- Tahu Nuva
Kopaka-Kopaka Nuva
Pohatu-Pohatu Nuva
Takanuva-Takanuva Nuva.

I saw a Lego set called Takanuva and it included the Veichle and ToL and Greg stated that Takanuva is not the veichle.
Mulligan Toa
You would be a good lawyer! I can see it now."ExoToa. The best lawyer in the world!" laugh.gif That's a great therie!
Comet Ball Traitor
QUOTE (ExoToa @ Feb 15 2003, 01:47 AM)
UPDATE! 9
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I never said Takua was or was not the Toa of Light .. what I have said is that Gali is not the Toa of Light (she's the Toa of water), and that the Seventh Toa is not Mata Nui. I can't discuss who or what the Toa of Light is or is not, because I would lose my BIONICLE story team secret decoder ring
ok this was from Greg F And it brings up the Takua is the TOL topic YES!






i will update this with more later


ET

He said nothing of the sort he said he won't tell who or what the TOL was because in the post before someone had falsely said that he had said that the TOL was Takua and he wanted to clear this up by saying he never said that. Funny why would he deny that unless he was protecting himself from looking like he lied if Takua wasn't the TOL. huh.gif
Yaanu
For more evidence on the case, and even more confusion, search "Official Greg Topic" w/o quotes.
Nuvadude
yep this is all the info we need to prove takua is the tol, and i think he is but somehow i dont think it will be him.

doesnt make sense does it?
Sidorak The Hunter
Well, that is proof, and all we need to know is who is the 7th toa (or toa nuva). (duh)
Nataku Nuva
ok first CBT i agree, i mean who wouldn't love to WORK on bionicle<i know i'd love to>. so yea if i accidentally screwed up <NOT SAYING HE DID OR ANYTHING> i'd try to cover my own hide.

On Topic: alrighty heres some info for u. Taka Nuva is the name of the Tol<7th Toa>. his ride is called <found after checking out Gregs batch of answers topics> Ussalnui<spelling?>. there u go.

Erico_nuva
Those are The best arguements i've seen!
Its only logical, Takua IS The toa of light!
Mabye once The Tol is revealed there will
be a new village!
Ninjo
Topic revival -- closed.

-NM
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