well in the BZP slideshow.
youll notice that takua has red hands with red fingertips.
but in the shot of the eye view shot of a person bringing the mask to thier face.
youll notice the figure has gold and silver hands.
and the TOL has a gold and silver color scheme. And youll also notice on the bionicle van it says "the search for the 7th toa" therefore stating that they arent using the mask for a person they are using it to find the person and that person is the TOL.
if you dont know what im saying im telling you that the TOL isnt takua or gali, or any toa , turaga, or matoran. it is a whole differant person.
and if you notice vakama says "trust in the mask let it be your guide" and thats the final key to the puzzle.
the mask is not a source of changing biengs it is the main item that leads one to where the TOL is at.
takua and the others arent looking for the mask they are using the mask to find Takanuva.

Im not so sure about that. I really have no opinion on who the tol is or isn't but the gold hands I think are caused by the light of the tol. Kinda like holding a hand on a red spotlight, your hand would appear to glow red. Takua seems like he is going to put on the mol but pulls it away when tahu comes. This may mean he gives it to someone else. Icebl/\de
Edit: the let it guide you could also mean guide him in how to use its powers, then again I like your idea because then takua will still be a matoran and there will be a tol. Another point in support of takua not being the tol is if takua is the tol, there are three things which probably will happen concerning Mnolg 2 . It must come out before the movie[which would mean there would be an enemy after the kal but before makutas return] or takua changes back, or there is a new hero of Matanui.

yeah good point but when takua brings it to his face his hands are still red.
and why would the mask guide takua if he is the TOL it makes nosense for the tol to go find the tol.

wow! i always thought that takua was the tol but this makes me think! and maybe they're looking for the whale thing or makuta's lair! good theory! DANG 13!

thanks i took me alot of thinking and now my brain hurts.
whats do you mean by 13?

QUOTE (Unbreakable @ Feb 20 2003, 08:00 PM)

well in the BZP slideshow. youll notice that takua has red hands with red fingertips. but in the shot of the eye view shot of a person bringing the mask to thier face. youll notice the figure has gold and silver hands. and the TOL has a gold and silver color scheme. And youll also notice on the bionicle van it says "the search for the 7th toa" therefore stating that they arent using the mask for a person they are using it to find the person and that person is the TOL. if you dont know what im saying im telling you that the TOL isnt takua or gali, or any toa , turaga, or matoran. it is a whole differant person. and if you notice vakama says "trust in the mask let it be your guide" and thats the final key to the puzzle. the mask is not a source of changing biengs it is the main item that leads one to where the TOL is at. takua and the others arent looking for the mask they are using the mask to find Takanuva.

Finally someone notices and actually gets off the Takua is a toa thing.For more proof of this theory remember the big rock at the beginning with the green things coming out something was breaking out from within. And their is going to be a quest but it only looks like Takua accidentaly found the mask which means they are searching for something else

Hey...THAT"S A GOOD THEORY! What if my old theory is correct, and Mata-Nui is the Toa of Light, and Takua uses the mask to find Mata-Nui. It could work!

yeah maybe the mol is used to awake mata-nui.
that brings even more light to this subject.
cause if you notice it says three villagers have to search for the light but when takua found the mask he was the only one around. therefore prooving that they arent searching for the mask they are searching for Takkanuva.

Thanks for the theory, Unbreakable, I was starting to think everyone thought Takua was the Toa of Light. I'm relieved I'm not the only one with a different opinion. I've been trying hard to convince other members of the fact that there is no absolute proof, yet they keep thinking I'm mental. Which is right, but that's not important right now.
I believe the facts you put up are good arguments for your concluding theory, for as far as I can see, there are no holes in it.

I like your trust in the mask theory. You really don't want our Fav. Matorian Takua to be the ToL do you? Lol, JK.
Well, with Vakama's quote... OMG! I BELEAVE YOU! OMG I AGREEEE this is amazing! I always thought Takua was the ToL! Now I'm not so sure! IT WORKED!

QUOTE (Schizo Kaita @ Feb 21 2003, 10:25 AM)

Thanks for the theory, Unbreakable, I was starting to think everyone thought Takua was the Toa of Light. I'm relieved I'm not the only one with a different opinion. I've been trying hard to convince other members of the fact that there is no absolute proof, yet they keep thinking I'm mental. Which is right, but that's not important right now. I believe the facts you put up are good arguments for your concluding theory, for as far as I can see, there are no holes in it.

not here! I knew it was never Takua, why would he bring down the Toa with the Toa Stones only to become a Toa later on? He could just have become the Toa himself (he did have his memory then), and then defeat Makuta, since the ToL is a different level of Toa, he is one step up on the scale of Nuva, he is already Nuva, and for him to be dumped into Protodermis would make him stronger. My theory is since we've all seen the trailer/slideshow, I did not once see Kopaka, and if someone did, I'd like to know FAST, but what if he's the ToL? It would make sense, since a Silver hand holding MoL is presumably the ToL.

I think its takua as in the MNOLG he's said said to be a hero like the toa and......eeerrrrrrrr..........stuff

no he is like the toa in only one way and that is in his heart.
hes the chronicler and the only reason why is cause he is the chosen one to guide the toa.
his existance is only based on his ability to see things before they happen.
he saw the kal before they attacked and he will see the rahkshi before they attack.
thats what hes meant for. hes not meant to be a toa hes meant to be a hero like the toa.
takua will not be the TOL because the mask is guiding him not changing him.

I believe GregF already told us the Toa of Light was a totally new character. Nobody seems to have listened but a select few. Good on you.

no he hasnt even gave us a clue about the toa of light.
he hasnt answered any questions even regarding the TOL.

yes he has people have asked him many times if he will become a toa and he always answers no he is the chronicler.

yeah mabye but i can't find a picture... where is a picture???

Yes, didn't Greg try to clear this up? I thout he said No Matoran are going to go through any transformations exept the one for the 2003 Matoran.

I think Takunuva is a different Toa but when the Toa were exposed to Protodermis it some how effected him. He was somewhere lost and Takua has to find him. When he finds him he presents him with The MoL.

Edit!!!: Something weird I know of is that set of the ToL and The veichle is called Takunuva and Greg cleared up that the veichle is not Takunuva. Many think When Takua transforms into the new Matoran his name turns into Taku. After that he puts on the MoL and his name is Taku Nuva. There is no space thus not meaning he isn't the ToL. My name could be ****nuva and you guys couldn't say I was ******* and turned into **** then **** Nuva.

So far, there really is no conclusive evidince as to who the ToL is, but, your theory is most likely correct!

thanks.
im believing real well in my theory.
cause so far i havent seen anyone able to proove it wrong.
but gregf said no matoran will go through changes even the 2003 ones he never said one will he said none.

Yes!!!!!
Now we are getting somewhere with the theorys on who the Toa of Light is. As a little bit of evidence to support this. I give you one question... Why would lego make a Set that INCLUDES TAKUA??? That is the real fault in all the theorys that Takua is the Toa of Light. Lego would not make a set for someone who is only in the movie as a character for a short time ans they transforms into something else. Unless he would revert back to his origanal form latter in the movie.

hmmmm. maybe you're right.....

All of you guys make great points but you are overlooking the similarities between TakaNuva and TakuaNuva?????

QUOTE (Toa_Assasin @ Feb 22 2003, 06:46 PM)

All of you guys make great points but you are overlooking the similarities between TakaNuva and TakuaNuva?????

That means nothing Only 2 "e" separate Kopaka and Kopeke and yet we know Kopaka is not Kopeke nuva
Matoran are Matoran and Toa are Toa there are no ex-matoran that are toa or
ex-toa that are matoran.

Comet Ball Traitor is right. The name means nothing. If we wanted to, we could say that The Spirt Mata Nui is the island of Mata Nui. Just because of the name. So I say, even if GregF said other wise, that Takanuva is the Whale Creature, not the Toa of Light.

Dont question what GREG says! but his whale thingy is called Ussalnui! and if GREG says that Takua isn't the tol then Takua isn't the tol!

go master of light im glad your behind my theory.
i think we should bring people to my theory to enlighten them on the toa of light not bieng takua.
ohh and the reason they made a takua set was cause hes an important character in the mol.
he found the mask therfore making him special.

That was most likely Vakama or another Turaga examining the marking in the Mask of Light, not putting it on.

if you're talking about where u can see the righting those hands look black to me

nope they are silver and gold
ohh and how can a turaga wear a kanohi of power they are not able to harnes the powers.
and examining it nope i doubt it the crowd in the backround doesnt look as if the person is examining it they look amazed not hey cool.


oh and heres more proof.
as stated before by gregf the matoran and turaga are not powerful enough to endure the abilities of any kanohi of power.
yhe mask of light is a kanohi of power therfore takua cannot use it.

Maybe his fingers are golder and silver because the power of the mask is so great that it start his transformation while it got closer to becoming his mask.

Takua found the mol in a cave. And the turaga represented it outdoors. Then Takua did not put it on, because he gave it to the turaga. So i think he's not the
tol.

CAVE?! he found it by a lava river!

I didn't think this topic would hold any water, but I must admit that unbreakable has a strong point.
Takua is definately not the ToL. I kind of like the theory of Mata Nui being ToL because that would
explain why he's gonna help defeat Makuta. And now Makuta has a true physical form, so why
wouldn't Mata Nui? If that is true though, I wonder how they wake him up?

Great theory, I'm glad somebody with my thoughts EXACXTLY is out there.

Neway, we don't know EXACTLY where little T found/finds the mask, it does kinda look like he found the mask near a lava stream.

im guessing he just saw the rock lying there and he probly thought it would be great to make it into a koli.
just kidding i have no clue where he found but the point is that he found it.
ohh and onua nuva one reason why that doesnt work is why didnt turaga nokamas hands start turning silver and gold when she was holding it?
im glad that alot of you agree with me hopefully im right.

Anyway the turaga where nowhere near a lava river when they represented the mask.

Maybe I don't know

And takua diddent start to turn silver when he STARTED to put it on...

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whats do you mean by 13?

sorry Unbreakable i didn't see ur question. I always say good theory to people and that was the 13th time!

ohh okay.
mcrbrayer14 yup thats even more proof that it wasnt him putting the mask on cause if the holders hands turn silver and gold why didnt takuas and nokamas.

Off topic: Master of Light, I did not mean to insult you, but I can't seem to find where Greg said that Takanuva was the Toa of light. Also where did you find that the whale creature is called Ussal Nui? Because to me it does not have any similarity to an Ussal crab or to Pewku from the movie.

On topic: Also, for those who say that takua is putting on the mask in that screen, I believe that he was just inspecting it and to see if there were any marking that would identify it as something of significance, as we know there are Mata nuian letters in it, but we are unable to translate them due to the curving of the mask, and due to the poor quality of the pictures.

silver25

anyone who wears the Mol will be the Tol

QUOTE (fire @ Feb 23 2003, 07:22 PM)

anyone who wears the Mol will be the Tol

No I'm sorry to be so rude but only the TOL is the TOL if what you say were true then anyone with a KaKama would be pohatu but that is not so. Just because it is a new mask does not mean it does not follow the rules of the other masks it simply has powers which in this case can defeat makuta but just like the rest of the masks they do not transform matoran.

no mask has the soul purpose to transform.
if you notice all masks have one power and that power is all they do if it transformed a bieng than that would be its only power. and how can the mask defeat darkness if its only power is transforming.

QUOTE (silver25 @ Feb 23 2003, 07:20 PM)

Off topic:  Master of Light, I did not mean to insult you, but I can't seem to find where Greg said that Takanuva was the Toa of light.  Also where did you find that the whale creature is called Ussal Nui?  Because to me it does not have any similarity to an Ussal crab or to Pewku from the movie.

Here is where Gregf named the TOL horsy thingy Ussanui

So no one else is posting so that means everyone has now realized that Takua is not The TOL right? or are you still so stubborn that you need more proof cause I'm stating to run out so I sure hope Unbreakable has alot more

well i have alot more but i can release a bit of stuff.
well first off we all know that the MOL guides takua and two others to the toa of light.
but since the mol has that lettering in it. and i got confrimation from gregf that it the scene with the mask comming closer. it is someone examining it.
the mask has a discription of its use inside and the legend.
but as you see if the mask was meant for takua which it woulds have said inside it wouldnt they just tell takua to put it on and not go on the journey.
makes sense to me that he is not the tol.

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off topic: umm are you talking to me cause if you are youve got to go check out what spamming means cause i didnt spam.

on topic: now its time for my next thing. the ussanui that little whale that taka rides. i dont think it just pops up when a person puts the mask on. it has to be hidden along with taka its only right that its hidden as well cause im positive ussanui just doesnt appear when the mask is placed on a persons face.

Yeah, sorry for that, wrong topic.

but what does the ussanui have to do with takua not being the tol, other than takua already has a set?

And he seemed to be pulling the mask to himself pretty fast to just be examing it. And it looked like he jumped when he saw the toa comming to him, or whoever that was, kinda like a kid doing something hees not supposed to do, or unsure of doing, and gets caught by someone else.

Good job you guys, hot topic! Cool.