If you read comic ten and look at the orgin of the Kal. It says that the Bahrag were CREATED. Does this mean that the Toa Nuva will face the Bahrag's creator after Makuta's defeat in the Mask of Light? Post what you think here.

Well, I think that the story goes that the Bahrag created all the Borhok including the Bohrok Kal. But maybe we'll get to see who created the Bahrag, or whoever their master is.

I have a fun little epic on the Bahrag's creators, but they aren't evil. Link is http://www.bzpower.com/forum/index.php?act...ST&f=25&t=45115 .

I think makuta created them what do you think

Remember that the toa's mission was to defeat makuta, once he is gone the toa's mission will be complete. So if they do defeat makuta, they won't need to be on mata-nui any more. That means no toa.

Then why did they come back to defeat everyone else

I not going to tell my theory about Makuta and the Bahrag but I tell you this the Bahrag and the bohrok where created at the same time see for your self in comic #10.

Ok I believe you

i bet the bahrag where created by something bigger...like the other kid said

The toa came to the island of Mata-nui when the god Mata-nui was put to sleep and the inhabitents attacked. Once they defeat Makuta, which will not be in the near future, I assure you, Mata-nui will most likely awake, and the inhabitents will be safe.

Lets see.............................

Makuta is Nothing............................

He is also darkness.......................

Darkness is Nothing.......................

So is light.....................

There is a source of light and a source of darkness...............................

Mata Nui is Takanuva's source of light............................

So they must face a new evil...................

One who had turned Makuta to the dark side..........................

This might sound like a good start for an Epic, but it is a logical and posible theory.

makuta may have created them

Maybe, there is a father of Mata Nua and Makuta, they are brothers why not have a father?
Evil dad!

The Bahrag were created in the Before time, before Mata-Nui came and before Makuta came. Maybe Mata-Nui is some island that holds so many secrets and powers from some ancient people, and it was protected by a whole lot of things.
So when Mata-Nui went down to spread life, he was just setting up the inhabitants for a big fall, as the island's defences were called on.
Or not. Who knows about Mata-Nui before the Toa came along. Only the writers for Lego.

QUOTE (Chronicler of Ko-Koro @ Feb 28 2003, 09:59 PM)

Lets see............................. Makuta is Nothing............................ He is also darkness....................... Darkness is Nothing....................... So is light..................... There is a source of light and a source of darkness............................... Mata Nui is Takanuva's source of light............................ So they must face a new evil................... One who had turned Makuta to the dark side.......................... This might sound like a good start for an Epic, but it is a logical and posible theory.

Ahem.....No, Makuta turned himself evil. If Makuta is destroyed, then: The Toa will leave; Mata Nui will awken; I will never like Bionicle again. Makuta once was a great spirit of good, but his greed turned him cold and wicked. Quote: An Island, protected by six heroes, threatened by one IMORTAL foe. Un-quote. Imortal! There you go! He can't be killed! Bwahahaha!

The toa's mission to destroy Makuta will never finish. Makuta is a god so he's imortal and that means he can't be killed. The toa can temproarily defeat him or maybe even put him to sleep like Mata Nui but they can't destroy him.

The toa's mission to destroy Makuta will never finish. Makuta is a god so he's imortal and that means he can't be killed. The toa can temproarily defeat him or maybe even put him to sleep like Mata Nui but they can't destroy him.

Makuta is not imortal! if he was then the toa can't complete their mission of annihilating Makuta.

he cant be killed because he is nothing, in other words its a never-ending-story untill it somehow dies by itself like everyother lego product (but its not going to take untill a couple of years for it to die)

he cant die!!! if you watched the clip of Makuta V.S. toa at the end he says ``you cannot destroy me for i am nothing"

so do you get my point

First of all, Makuta is unbeatable. Toa can only weaken him, but not destry him.
Second, the Bahrag's orgin still remain unknown. For me, the person or the things(whatever) must have a evil plan behind the creation, and it's begin to work...

The Bahrag have something to do with the "Before time"
and were actualy created then, and Greg did say it would
be a while before the "Before time" was revealed, so we
will know eventualy.

just becouse makuta is imortal doesn't mean he can't be imprisoned. i think at the end of the bionicle storyline, mata nui awakes, and him and some other spirits imprison makuta in a cage in the heavons! in the mol the toa will teporaraly deafet makuta, just like thay did in the mnolg. we don't know who created the bahrog, but i think we will see it after makuta is defeated in the mol.

These Ideas are all good. But what do you think of my idea? Is it good? Or is it Bad?

Here's my theory, based on lewapunk's idea:


The Toa Nuva temporarily defeat Makuta and disable his powers, then Mata Nui awakes. Mata Nui uses the hidden secrets of the island itself (who knows what that island could be keeping from everyone....) to permanently defeat Makuta and uses his powers to turn Makuta good. Then Mata Nui reveals all the island's secrets to the Toa Nuva and matoran, and from then on the island of Mata Nui will be safe and peaceful (thus marking the end of the BIONICLE line). And the Toa Nuva would journey to other islands and protect the inhabitants of those islands.

I'll bet by the release of the 2nd BIONICLE movie in 2005 there will be MATA NUI sets on shelves in stores. Think about what his mask would look like (I think he'll wear a SOLID silver mask). That would put the price of the set at about US $40. The set would probably consist of 1,000+ pieces and be like 2 feet tall......JUST IMAGINE THAT!!

YToT hopes LEGO releases a MATA NUI set











YToT

i think that Makuta will become good like his brother and reverse the spell and wake up his sleepy brother and the island peace will be restored and BIONICLE will end forever!sOOOOOOb

I bet that the creator of Makuta is the creator of the Rahkish (or however you say it) In the trailer for Mask of Light it shows a monster screaming and laughing and a little backbone creture in a jar that turns into a Rahkish.thats my theory.

QUOTE (Kopaka Avenger @ Mar 1 2003, 10:28 PM)

Makuta is not imortal! if he was then the toa can't complete their mission of annihilating Makuta.

Oh really? Watch the MOL trailer. Or watch the scene by scene thing. Then you will see.

QUOTE (BarrelDragon @ Mar 2 2003, 07:18 PM)

I bet that the creator of Makuta is the creator of the Rahkish (or however you say it) In the trailer for Mask of Light it shows a monster screaming and laughing and a little backbone creture in a jar that turns into a Rahkish.thats my theory.

Look in the scene by scene thing, and it says that the screaming laughing beast IS Makuta.

What makes you think there will be anything after Makuta? I mean, what other bad guy is there that would make a good replacement? He plays such a huge part in the storyline (being Mata Nui's bro, putting him to sleep, etc.) that I don't think they could make another villian as important as him without basically making a whole new plot after Mata Nui has been awakened.

The LEGO company never said Makuta was a god, or Mata Nui for that matter.

Tomiam

This is (for now) my after-MoL theory: the Toa have succeeded in bringing peace to Mata Nui, and leave the island, going to an unknown location. After many years, a new evil arrives from an outside realm, wreaking havoc on the island. At that time, the Toa return, with new and improved bodies and forms, to fight and destroy this evil.
Another possibility is that the Toa grow old on Mata Nui and disappear, and that when evil returns, new Toa arrive.
Schizo Kaita envisions Bionicle going anime style...

He si more spirit than anything else so what destroys a spirit...?
sound acultic eh...

but Maybe The Bahrag are the key to defeating Makuta?

QUOTE (Tomiam @ Mar 3 2003, 10:29 AM)

The LEGO company never said Makuta was a god, or Mata Nui for that matter. Tomiam

I totally agree, that makes me pretty ticked. Cause, I mean, if Makuta can be defeated by mortals, what implication would that make upon real life religon?

Like I said before, Makuta and Mata-nui are the only ones in the picture. There are no other islands, and no other "gods".

Do you have proof that there are more?

QUOTE (Tomiam @ Mar 3 2003, 10:29 AM)

What makes you think there will be anything after Makuta? I mean, what other bad guy is there that would make a good replacement? He plays such a huge part in the storyline (being Mata Nui's bro, putting him to sleep, etc.) that I don't think they could make another villian as important as him without basically making a whole new plot after Mata Nui has been awakened. The LEGO company never said Makuta was a god, or Mata Nui for that matter. Tomiam

Never mind the LEGE company. Makuta IS a god, or at least he is worshipped (not by the Matoran, but by evil beings). And so is Mata Nui.

QUOTE (Lord0fTheRoad @ Mar 3 2003, 01:28 PM)

QUOTE (Tomiam @ Mar 3 2003, 10:29 AM) The LEGO company never said Makuta was a god, or Mata Nui for that matter. Tomiam I totally agree, that makes me pretty ticked. Cause, I mean, if Makuta can be defeated by mortals, what implication would that make upon real life religon? Like I said before, Makuta and Mata-nui are the only ones in the picture. There are no other islands, and no other "gods". Do you have proof that there are more?

Yes: The great beings from Paradise. Also the Toa are worshipped by the Matoran.

Hmmm... Makuta and Mata-Nui are brothers. And both gods. Sounds like Greek Mythology to me.
Anyways, in some mythology books, it has that some "imortals" were defeated by mortals.

Well maybe Makuta's and Mata Nui's older cute sister will come to Mata Nui and teach them both a lesson. Makuta still writes to his sister every month trying to explain that Mata Nui and him are playing nice but Mata Nui just hasn't had time to write. Maybe she'll figure it out come to Mata Nui and take it over while punishing Makuta for being mean and Mata Nui for sleeping in. That's my theory But if that did happen a female god would do havok on the male toa's nerves


Gotta go Makuta broke the Kratta jar again and now we have to go catch them again

I wish I knew. I'll bet it's something really cool though.

Makuta is bad, but he will gone, just I don't know how...

BTW, thinking about new villians is still pointless at the monent, because we still haven't get any idea about the ending at MoL, isn't it?

Don't feel offence, however, imaginations is always good, just I think that it isn't the time to think about future(such as 2004) right now.

Makuta and Mata-Nui are brothers,evil and good...and maybe their father is not either side.

well.... I think that Makuta created them in the first place, because if it wasn't Makuta, who else could it be? not Mata-Nui surely! and also, in the storyline it said something about Matai-Nui falling from the sky, and then Makuta getting jealus about Mata-Nui getting all the respect from the mataron, so he came down, and made Mata-Nui go to sleep.

I'd say Makuta's sister, wich is Mukatu created the Bahrag. Mata-Nui created the Toa/Nuva. I'll let you in on a secret: One of the Rahi, Kane-ra's sister is Makuta's father. One type of scorpion is Makuta's mother. And it'snot Nui-Jaga. If you think you know, PM me. I got all this info from my friend who makes comedies and not a member, Arjun. I canot believe that Makuta's brother created the Bohrok-Kal. He did that 40097 years ago on Mat-Nui. oops, I just told you the 3rd part of Arjun's secret.

Has anyone heard of Digimon, where new "saviors" came every time they were needed? That could be like it.

Maybe theres something that made makuta(after all how'de he get his new power) and the bahrag