in the first news about the rahksi cd`s it said that: a krataa that was dipped into protodermis become a rahksi and that there where lots of krataa everywhere. i did think about this then it hit me when the rahksi are defeted by the toa then makuta just can take and some more krataa and do the whoule prosses again and again until the toa will become defeted!!!!!!!!
this is serious
post your meenigs

I thought that, too, but GregF said Makuta thought 6 were enough.

yeah but after the 6 are defeted makuta can just make six new ones

Remember what happened to the Krana? The Matoran did that so the Bohrok wouldn't attack again. They will probably do the same thing to the Kraata, if I'm right, don't you think?

FH

... Considering thre Toa of Light will be facing Makuta as the Toa Nuva face the Rahkshi, Makuta won't have time to make more.

QUOTE (bio-java @ May 2 2003, 06:05 AM)

in the first news about the rahksi cd`s it said that: a krataa that was dipped into protodermis become a rahksi and that there where lots of krataa everywhere. i did think about this then it hit me when the rahksi are defeted by the toa then makuta just can take and some more krataa and do the whoule prosses again and again until the toa will become defeted!!!!!!!! this is serious post your meenigs

I think he really only does have six. Because each one of the six Kraata for each Rahkshi is a different evolution of that specific Kraata. So the six Kraata say for, Turahk, are really just one Kraata at different life stages. So, if you think about it, there are really only six that we ever hear about. By the way, I am baing this theory on info from GregF, so I'm not just making it all up


Tomiam

1) Makuta was overwhelmed with the power, he decided to stop at six
2) The Kraata have to go through evolution before being "dipped" in proto
3) Can you imagine the energy it would take to expell six creatures from your person?
4) The Toa (Nuva) are always in trouble

Hmm.... I like this theory! I think that someone smart, and brave, and loyal to BZP should PM GregF about this!
EDIT: Er, I guess that means I have to PM him, eh?

After the ToL is finished with Makuta I don't think he'd be up to dipping things in protodermis, let alone moving!

It's not that bad a theory, but not that good either. Remember how we were told that Makuta made the kraata from his own essence? Well, I am willing to bet that it takes a LOT of life energy to make the kraata, and at 6 Makuta had to stop or risk destroying himself, leaving just enough energy to destroy the whole Mata-Nuian populace in general.

Greg F said Makuta is reluctant to use the Rahkshi

no i think the toa's will defeit the the rahkshi and then in like six minutes after they go fight makuta he wont have the time to make new rahkshi

but i thought makuta pulled more than six kraata out of his body, but yet there are only six rakhshi.

QUOTE (jl122 @ May 4 2003, 01:30 PM)

but i thought makuta pulled more than six kraata out of his body, but yet there are only six rakhshi.

That's because one Kraata becomes the Rahkshi, and an identical one controls that Rahkshi. GregF said so. (Not trying to be mean)

Hmm... bio-java has a point here. There do seem to be more kraata than Rahkshi, as I believe Greg has said the Turaga have been hunting kraata for a while. But Makuta only made 6 Rahkshi--perhaps he thought that would be enough to defeat the Toa. Presumably the good guys will try to defeat not only the Rahkshi, but also Makuta himself, so that he won't be able to make more.

QUOTE (GaliGee @ May 4 2003, 01:47 PM)

Presumably the good guys will try to defeat not only the Rahkshi, but also Makuta himself, so that he won't be able to make more.

Well you're being a bit pessimistic today aren't you j/k

Yes I'm sure this is possible but I think that the liquid protodenis in the tubes has since hardened because of exposure to the air so unless makuta finds more proto there will only be 6 rahkshi

makuta thought that six were enough. so he didnt make anymore.
and as a result of that he could not create them again. so they're are only six kraata in existance.

QUOTE (Eisen Dragoon @ May 4 2003, 01:56 PM)

makuta thought that six were enough. so he didnt make anymore. and as a result of that he could not create them again. so they're are only six kraata in existance.

Then why are there 36 types of Kraata? If there are that many, why didn't Makuta make an army of them. If he's so big and bad, he wouldn't a settled for just thinking 6 is good enough. He's supposed to be a big bad evil genius. Explain that.

i just thought of something, if there will be a 7th rahkshi(because of taka nuva) appearing. if that's true, then how will makuta make a counterpart to the ToL? i mean, how can darkness make dark light? ok.i'm not going anywhere with this,am i?

I pm'd gregf on the subject and come back with the sultion after I get his pm back but I'n the meantime.
I think that makuta had come over the rahkshi after exspirmenting for a while, since he had to make six differnt kraata that ment alot of work so he stoped at six, he was overwelmed by the power of the rahkshi and did'nt make any more because he thought they where more then enough to defete the toa.

QUOTE (bio-java @ May 2 2003, 07:18 AM)

yeah but after the 6 are defeted makuta can just make six new ones

why would makuta keep trying if they kept failing??i think makuta would be smart enough to move on and think of something btter and stronger

Remember, the Kraata come from Makuta himself. Maybe if he takes too much from himself, and makes too many Kraata and Rahkshi, he may become weak and be overthrown.

Good point TakaNuva Vahi Master.

Most likely, Makuta could not expend enough power to create more Rakhsi, at least not immediately. And perhaps each existing Rakshi taps his power- since each uses a force of destruction, and he is the master of destruction, they may drain him whenever they use their power. Just an idea.

QUOTE (TakaNuva Vahi Master @ May 4 2003, 02:47 PM)

Remember, the Kraata come from Makuta himself. Maybe if he takes too much from himself, and makes too many Kraata and Rahkshi, he may become weak and be overthrown.

That is a good point!
Makuta is probably just using the Rahkshi as a last result. You see, he wants to rule the island, not destroy it! He most likely made the 6 Rahkshi because:
1) He hopes they can find the Tol before Takua does
2) He also is getting sick of the Toa Nuva, and will use the Rahkshi to get them out of the way
3) He thinks maybe the Rahkshi will make the Matoran very fearful, and they will surrender to him. But, alas, "...so many years in darkness must have made Makuta blind.".
When he does get defeated, of course he can't make more! (duh)

QUOTE (Neo-Toa @ May 4 2003, 08:17 PM)

QUOTE (Eisen Dragoon @ May 4 2003, 01:56 PM) makuta thought that six were enough. so he didnt make anymore. and as a result of that he could not create them again. so they're are only six kraata in existance. Then why are there 36 types of Kraata? If there are that many, why didn't Makuta make an army of them. If he's so big and bad, he wouldn't a settled for just thinking 6 is good enough. He's supposed to be a big bad evil genius. Explain that.

Ill show you the reason why im known as the juggernaut of BZP.
There isnt 36 kraata we just have to collect 36 in order to imagine the process of kraata evolution.
Makuta isnt very smart if he was why didnt he make thousands of kal incase the first six were defeated. Why didnt he give the rahi brains. Why didnt he make the bohrok actual living bodies. Cause he belives it will acmplish his desires. He chose six rahkshi cause he believed six was enough. Why did makuta show up as a matoran cause he thought he could beat them by useing words. There are six rahkshi cause six is enough. he believes the toa are easily fooled and easily beaten. he only sees them as weaker biengs and he thinks that what ever he thinks up is the remidy for his evil. And he has relidied on the kraata before and they accomplished what he set out for. so he believed that the kraata will do the sameonly this time they will be stronger.
that enough for ya.
i believe ive said my two cents.

Unbreakable
"making your heart stop"
and hopefully i did.

i dont think makuta will use kratta on the matoran and lewa. i think its gonna be infected masks.



on bionicle.com it shows that lewa nuva has an infected mask!

Yes, he could, possibly... if he is free to do so. Of course, that would assume he defeats the Toa of Light in the movie, too, otherwise I don't think he will be running around making kraata.

Greg

For one: Makuta didn't create the Rahi or the Bohrok. He infected the Rahi, which were already there,and awoke the Bohrok, which were already there.

I believe there are dozens of kratta on Mata Nui. I don't know why he only made six. I don't like how he always underestimates his foes. It would make sense to create an army of Rahkshi, but then maybe they could overthrow him! Like 12 Bohrok Kal coul overthrow the Bahrag. And the Kal almost won. And from the Rahkshi CD, we know they are always victorious. Although it's obvious that the Toa will win, it's also obvious that the Toa will have to struggle.

Plus, after the Toa figure out the secret to defeating the Rahkshi, they will be able to do the same thing again if Makuta makes more. Like a disease. It is a disaster when a people catch it for the first time, but then their immune systems know what to do if they get the disease again.

The smart thing for Makuta to do, would be to make dozens of Rahkshi in the first place.

Or he could reinfect the Rahi. I've heard he doesn't want to bother with the Rahi because they failed him, but again he is not thinking straight. Say there is a town built sturdily and on a strong foundation. If a small earthquake (Rahi) or tremor hits it there will be no damage. Now lets say that town was hit by a huge earthquake (Rahkshi); and the town's structure survived, only barely. We know that the Toa are just good enough to defeat the Rahkshi. But then a small tremor hits. The town's structure, hanging on by a strand, collapses in full force. The Toa must use all of their strength to defeat the Rahkshi but if there were Rahi in play to, the Toa wouldn't stand a chance (even though Rahi are easy to beat).

So it isn't worth Makuta's while to make more Rahkshi if the Toa know how to defeat them. The smart hting would have been to make many, but then the storyline would end abruptly and there wouldn't be a movie.

Movie plot with many Rahkshi: Thousands of Rahkshi emerge; Makuta is new ruler of Mata Nui; the end.

There's my opinion!

I just thought of another reason there won't be a hundred Rahkshi:
Has anyone ever considered that the Toa Nuva might NOT defeat the already created Rahkshi in the Mask of Light?

but if all the rahksi is defeted and if he survives the tol i think he would make 6 rahksi nuva or kal or whatever

QUOTE (bio-java @ May 2 2003, 07:18 AM)

yeah but after the 6 are defeted makuta can just make six new ones

Yup, I was gonna start a topic, also, you're correct, unless Matoran can invent Bug Spray! J/K

I dunno, they should kill the source, or drain the proto-dermis.

QUOTE (Lord Lupus @ May 2 2003, 07:49 AM)

... Considering thre Toa of Light will be facing Makuta as the Toa Nuva face the Rahkshi, Makuta won't have time to make more.

yeah, a mid-battle bath wouldn't work too well.
and then there's the fact that kraata are most likely dissabled after makuta's defeat.