In the MNOLG episode "Kopaka battles Muaka," when Matoro sees the figure that is Kopaka in the snowstorm, he "zooms in" to try and get a better look.

Now, how would this work if Matoro wasn't using his Akaku? If the Akaku wasn't involved, you'd have to try and convince me that Matoro could just do this naturally, and that'd take some very good arguments.

I hope this helps clear up the issue of "Do Matorans' masks have power?" Please post your thoughts.

actually, i think i heard in a topic somewehere that the matoran built technology into their masks. i dont remember where the topic was,though, sorry.

Moving to Theories...

it's not a mask power.

and, it's a bad idea to start highly debated topics like this.it'll most likly get spamed and closed.

one man, you dont have to say that. this might be a good topic.

as or the queston, i dont know, but i think the matoran can use there masks.

Technology would be my geuss. I mean, why make it solely ceremonial when it could be useful as well?

So thats the reason why taipu can carry very heavy things.
And maybe hafu can sculpt in the dark.
But maku cant turn invisible.
Or can she?

Hmmm, quite the mystery, especially after Gregf said that the masks don't have powers...

Maybe the zoom feature is the result of the binocular things on the mask and not a power, cause the akaku has X-Ray vision not zoom vision.

i beg to differ. in bionicle comics #6,on the front/inside cover i saw Kopaka holding a Xa krana after defeating a Kohrak .big deal,right? oh but no, he was looking at it thruegh his Akaku mask with a BEAM coming from the middle lens on his mask.
and with Matoro,i think he was using the x-ray vision when he saw Kopaka.it was snowing hard then,and Matoro x-rayed Kopaka thru the snow from a shadow,to a dark figure,to the ice toa himself. three figures, three lenses on the Akaku mask.that's all i know.....for now.prase the KALlecter,thus the KALlecter knows all.

The Powerpack CD said that they don't use them. I think the MNOLG said that the Kanohi worn by Tohunga were merely symbols, kinda honoring the Toa. Maybe that was the Powerpack...

The Akaku has X-ray vision, right? Matoro isn't using X-Ray vision, he's just zooming in very carefully. Maybe a feature of the Akaku is Binocular vision.

But that theory could be scrapped if Kopaka never used that. I'll go with the technology idea. That seems to work best.

MM

Thats probably the only thing the Akaku Matoran Version can do. Zoom in and Out. They dont have the powers of the toa like sheilding or X-Ray vision because they wouldn't need the toa if they did. The Matoran probably dont use their powers that much because they dont need to.

I heard somewhere that the matoran's akaku have a zoom-in lense in them.

QUOTE (the KALlecter @ May 6 2003, 12:10 AM)

i beg to differ. in bionicle comics #6,on the front/inside cover i saw Kopaka holding a Xa krana after defeating a Kohrak .big deal,right? oh but no, he was looking at it thruegh his Akaku mask with a BEAM coming from the middle lens on his mask. and with Matoro,i think he was using the x-ray vision when he saw Kopaka.it was snowing hard then,and Matoro x-rayed Kopaka thru the snow from a shadow,to a dark figure,to the ice toa himself. three figures, three lenses on the Akaku mask.that's all i know.....for now.prase the KALlecter,thus the KALlecter knows all.

that beam might not mean he's zooming in, he might be scanning it tom see if there is anything insaide it

i go with the mechanical thing, the akakanu does not zoom it, it's x-rayvision, and besaides, the matoran are great at builiding stuff, look at the cable car in ta-koro, the boats in ga-koro, the excavation sites in onu-koro, the boxor, i'm sure that if they could make those they could make a meachanical mask

Right...

First off, the Matoran cannot use mask powers, 'cos their masks are purely for ceremonial purposes.

Secondly, most Matoran seem to have masks which, if they HAD powers, would be powers akin to their own talents, IE Jala is the protector of Ta-Koro, hence the Hau. Maku is sneaky, hence the Huna.

The only time a Matoran can use a Mask is when they have an Akaku, becaise they've learned to incorporate technology into it.
The Akaku's powers are, as was previously said, similar to X-Ray vision, heat vision, and possibly more.

Of course, all Akakus, powerless or not,, have a Zoom feature.

Hope that helps,
Lord Lupus

Well I think in ko koro the matorne learn to use a little of there mask power very carefully, after all gregf said that they have something special but that will not be told untill 2004.

Why would a ceremonial mask have powers unusable?
Trust me, it's technology - What you're referring to is why the Matoran become slow and sluggish with no mask.

i dunno i think the masks give them some power but not as much as toa like huki has the mask of speed he can run fast but not super speed man like pohatu and onepu is stronger than most matoran but not super strong like onua thanx for reading

Yeah, that's my theory too. Matoro doesn't have X-Ray vision, but he can zoom in on things using his mask.

i think the matoran truin to get the mask's powers work but i dont think it's possible couse if a turaga cant use a great mask how can a matoran use it?

Lord Lupus hit it right on the spot. They just have technology. If they had powers than they would be able to defeat Makuta in an instant. With all of those masks! The power is just to overwhelming and they can't handle it. And yes this theory about the Muaka video has been said countless times.

I personally think that the Matoran masks have some power, but nowhere near as much as the Great or Noble masks.
In the battle against the Rahi at the Kini-Nui temple (in the MNOLG), when the Matoran lose their masks, they're out of the fight.

That's symbolism, ToP - Otherwise, how would you know when they've run out of energy?

How do we know they have that advanced technology. I mean, walk through the island, do you see anything else that advanced? No. This may never be figured out I have no idea what really happens, but i do see a good debate from this

in the MNOLG, one of the turaga said that the tohunga have forgotten themselves. maybe they also forgot how to use their masks, too. GregF said( thats an overused phrase... ) that the reason for the matorans mask will be revealed. so just sit back and wait.

That's not really a power all he had what a binocular type lense on his mask. If they could use their masks they could almost be as powerful as the toa.

Mata Nuiian man...

ok, let's see... the Akaku's power is X-Ray vision... Matoro used a zoom feature... it's a technology mask... if the Huna worked, think Maku'd be spotted goin to Po-Koro?

it could be possible but i doubt it.only the masks of power can do that

Ugg, this is a MAJOR dupe. That info has been put forth multiple times already.

MY theory is that they have limited powers.

AKA:
Akaku: Zoom feature
Hau: Good at defence
Miru: Good at jumping/landing on feet
Kakama: Unusually fast
Kaukau: Good swimmer, can hold breath long
Pakari: Slightly stronger, higher endurance

Huna: Good at sneaking up on people


Of course, these are theories. Most masks are selected to go with Matorian for the sake of visual effects, not mask power.

The akaku is not zooming. It is simply x-ray vision. Matoro must have something in his mask... that or really good binocu-vision!!!

Ok... I'll shut up now.

~Minun

It's not a power. those bumps on the Akaku are actually
magnifying lenses.

There really isn't proof that that was Matoro zooming - it may just have been the "camera" in the mnolg zooming. Technology? Not impossible, but I kinda doubt it, don't know why. As for the akaku beam pic, I'll bet that that was just artistci license.

Nice theroy i Have to say that technology built in is also good too but I want to see the article about it

Well the Matoran masks don't have powers but the Akaku can be used as a 'Veiw master'.

Yes, I think that Matoro did use his mask power, but it could have been just showing the viewer what Matoro had seen. Maybe he just saw a shadow or a far-off figure and the "camera" zoomed in to show the viewer.

Either way, in my opinion, he used his mask.

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Maybe he just saw a shadow or a far-off figure and the "camera" zoomed in to show the viewer.

That's probobly it as far as I'm concerned. Anyway this might make for a good poll. Because of all the debating. I can see it now "Do you think matoron can use their masks or not"

Have faith in GregF! I dont think they have powers, but Greg said that there's something special in store for them. Just be patient.

O.K.
It seems there is some confusion here.
The Matoram's masks ARE for ceremonial purposes.
The mask that a Matoran obtains fits their personality.
EXAMPLE: Jala PROTECTS Ta-Koro, hence he has a Hau.
Not all Matoran fit their masks though.
Hafu has the mask of Night-Vision, but he doesn't have the power of night vision.
He just wouldn't be Hafu without the mask.
"Another Hafu Original!!" *sorry*
The example that was used at the start of this topic was just the animators.
Matoro CAN'T use his mask to zoom in.
AND, even if he did, it was the makers of the game who probrably did that "JUST BECAUSE".
Kopaka CAN'T laser something with his mask.
It was just to make it look cool.
I personally like the picture.
As I said earlier, the Matoran's masks are ceremonial.
When they "evolve", I don't know.
The 2004 thing will happen when they are no longer Mctorans.

Sincerely,

I think they either have 1 limited mask power or 2 all Matoran have features like zoomlens eyes.

Wierd...never noticed it but maybe he was using some built in tec stuff as other people
-Hottoco

QUOTE (CrazydudeX @ May 6 2003, 11:06 PM)

hey Nuju used his mask to lift Kopaka out of the canyon

He's a Turaga- The Turaga can use their Noble Masks, but it's not as strong as when a Toa uses them.

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and, it's a bad idea to start highly debated topics like this.it'll most likly get spamed and closed.

Well, it's a "highly debated" topic as you have specified, evidence from the amount of posts in this thread thus far, and so far the only "spammer" in this thread is you with your off-topic comments. Keep that in mind.

If you want to point out some violation, do it, but not ONLY do it.

Anyway, I think it was just a special case with Matoro. Zooming on in Kopaka wasn't a "power" of the mask, it was just technology. There's a big contradiction of the Akaku being a mask of "Power." Look at the lenses and gears and such in it. It looks like something that was built using technology, not magic.

Now, look at the other masks. The Pakari isn't equiped with steriod pumps or something that could be used technologically to make the user stronger. It just... does, and that's through magic.

So does the Miru, Hau, and Kakama, there is nothing "built in" to those masks, they just grant the user those MAGICAL powers.

Now, the Akaku. Look at the thing. There' s no magic in it. Maybe when the user wills the mask to function, there's magic, and when the mask disappears and reforms into another mask there' s magic. but there is no magic in the function of the mask. When you willit, it moves gears which in turn moves lenses in place so you can see far. Technology.

The Kaukau, maybe it's magic because I don;t see an oxygen tank. But then there are those two pipe things... Maybe the filter air out of the water? But then again, that would be technology.

My point is, the Kanohi Masks of power are infused with magic powers that can't be duplicated by the Matoran because they were designed by Mata Nui, and I don't think the Matoran have as much power as Mata Nui. The Akaku, on the other hand, functions as a piece of technology, not magic, and thus can be duplicated by the Matoran, in case of Matoro's mask.

The Akaku's probably a fusion of magic and technology, technological in function, but magically enhanced enough so that it can interact with the other Kanohi like I stated above.

Therefore, the reason you saw Matoro use his mask "power" is because it isn't a "power" at all, it's a piece of technology. Nothing is changed in the user (like the Pakari making you stronger) just the mask whirrs and buzzes around so it's like looking through a telescope or microscope or x-ray viewer, whatever the case may be. You don't rejoice you have magical "powers" when you look through a telescope, do you? Of course not. That's because it's not magic, it's technology.

It can be debated whether the Akaku is a Mask of "Power" at all, because it's a Mask of Technology.

So what am I saying? I'm saying that it's only a special case with the Akaku, that its function is technology-based, so that's why the Matoran were able to duplicate its design and give it to Matoro to use as a piece of technology. It was a special case. That's why you don't see Huki jetting across the desert with Pohatu or Kongu flying with Lewa: they can't.

They don't have and can't duplicate the MAGIC, only the TECHNOLOGY, which in this case it what the Akaku is, and is therefore why a Matoran can use it. It's not magic, but technology.

What about Hahli? And Maku? And Huki? Do they use THEIR masks?

No. Maku can't turn invisible. Have you SEEN her go invisible? Nope. I haven't either.

Huki can't jet across the desert, like I said. He's quick, but not Kakama quick.

Hahli, maybe, because the Kaukau looks technological in function too, but it must be severely limited (no oxygen tank after all).

I don't think the Matoran can use the powers of their mask. Note that the power of the Akaku is x-ray vision, not telescopic vision. It may be possible that the Matoran's akaku's have telescope/binocular type things built in.

QUOTE (Kopaka Va Bo @ May 6 2003, 06:58 PM)

No. Maku can't turn invisible. Have you SEEN her go invisible? Nope. I haven't either. Huki can't jet across the desert, like I said. He's quick, but not Kakama quick. Hahli, maybe, because the Kaukau looks technological in function too, but it must be severely limited (no oxygen tank after all).

SEE! You do think they could have "power", and you seem to be contradicting yourself! Look at my earlier post:

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MY theory is that they have limited powers. EG: Akaku: Zoom feature Hau: Good at defence Miru: Good at jumping/landing on feet Kakama: Unusually fast Kaukau: Good swimmer, can hold breath long Pakari: Slightly stronger, higher endurance Huna: Good at sneaking around Of course, these are theories. Most masks are selected to go with Matorian for the sake of visual effects, not mask power.

The masks have limited powers. Not as much as a Great mask, or noble, but all masks have some level of power. See, they have traces of the mask's power, but not the full helping like the Toa's.

Also, GregF said that the reason some Matorian get upgraded in MoL is because in the first CD-rom the voice over said Makuta made them loose some abilities. Those abilities were regained. I think also the mask powers might be even more powerful after he is gone.

im with ya there but they are probably nowhere near as powerful as the toa's and the turaga's masks.

That does kind of make since that they have limitted powers.

I'm not sure on his one so I can't say. Both sides of this matter have equal points. I'll have to think about it. Hmmm....

-SSTN

I don't know what I think!!!! IIIIIIIIIIi oh I don't know!!!!

I would think that the matoran need to defend themselves when the toa can't be there to help them.