Wrath
Aug 13 2003, 11:30 AM
I asked GregF and he can't reveal the answer, so I was wonderin' what U guys think.
_-ToC-_
-Platinum-
Aug 13 2003, 11:33 AM
vahithegreat
Aug 13 2003, 11:37 AM
i think that makuta is some sort of god like being. because his brother is the "great spirit" so he must be one too. if u mean after he gets the new mask (can never remember the name

), then i dont know. it might be like when jesus came down from heavan and became man
Than: Matoran of Anger
Aug 13 2003, 11:37 AM
| QUOTE (Daz36 @ Aug 13 2003, 11:33 AM) |
| He is a god, an almighty spirit, like Mata-nui. HE has many different form so you couldn not really pin-point his species! |
Makuta ISN'T a god. I don't know how many people say that. Anyway I think he's a step below the Great beings.
T:MOA
vahithegreat
Aug 13 2003, 11:37 AM
i think that makuta is some sort of god like being. because his brother is the "great spirit" so he must be one too. if u mean after he gets the new mask (can never remember the name

), then i dont know. it might be like when jesus came down from heavan and became man

ps: sorry about the double post
Toa Onewa
Aug 13 2003, 11:46 AM
I think he doesn't know
Sujaan
Aug 13 2003, 11:50 AM
I personally believe that Makuta is a great being, I don't know about you.
Yuna~Hibiscus
Aug 13 2003, 03:51 PM
I think he is very powerful, but not a god. That is probably just
the title the Matoran have given him because he is powerful.
He can't do everything... or else the Toa would have been gone
as soon as he had seen them as a threat.
Zhanikk: Arch-toa of fire
Aug 13 2003, 04:07 PM
whatever mata nui is,makuta is the same.i meen,they are brothers.
Yogata toa of the moon
Aug 13 2003, 05:04 PM
Here is the defonition of the term god. I will leave the determining what he is for yourself.
God
A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.
A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality.
An image of a supernatural being; an idol.
One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god.
A very handsome man.
A powerful ruler or despot
TakaNuva Vahi Master
Aug 13 2003, 07:36 PM
He's a void.
That's how he's been defined for a long time. I don't know if thats a species. He's a "Void-God" basically. What else could he be, I asks you!
~TNVM~
frozen billynuva
Aug 13 2003, 08:54 PM
If Makuta was a god he could not be destroyed. The only way to truly defeat someone is to destroy them, so if he can't be destroyed then the story would go on forever. Do you see any logic in this?
-Platinum-
Aug 14 2003, 01:36 PM
He is a mighty creature who can take form of many things. he is a shape-shifter so he could be many species.
Bionicle#1
Aug 14 2003, 02:00 PM
Well, I don't think that he is a god, but a very powerful being. I would doubt Makuta had a species, he is probably unique. He may or may not be a great being, but I doubt it because the Toa would probably been destroyed or defeated by him by now.
>Bionicle#1<
Rahaga Bomonga
Aug 14 2003, 02:50 PM
matinui and makuta are gods to me the marton word for god is great being and there are ways to detroy a god thoug i would never wish of doing it and it is very (says very a 999999999999999999999999qudruplin times)i personly think makuta is inmortal but takua nuva fifuls his desteny and fuses with makuta making him stronger but un inmortling him
Comet Ball Traitor
Aug 14 2003, 03:01 PM
I think he is one of the two original Matoran. Him and Mata Nui. And power of the universe was split between them somehow. This would also explain why they refer to each other as brothers and yet one is good and the other is evil.
frozen billynuva
Aug 14 2003, 03:16 PM
You confusing me with that one Cornet. what is the other part of the world that is Makutas, or are you referring to the island of Mata-Nui as aworld in itself?
The Bird of Hermes
Aug 14 2003, 06:49 PM
Makuta is a Great Being.Read it,I said Great Being not a god,He can be destroyed,right? That means he's not a God.When he put on the Kraahkan(sp?)He adopted a physical form,he is possibly a Great Being
Vapu Chroma
Aug 15 2003, 06:55 AM
If Makuta was a god, he wouldnt be trying to make Matoran worship him, would he? They would worship him without question, therefore, Makuta is not a god. I agree with Than. He is probably a step below a Great Being. Like an outcast or something. Also, he is a shapeshifter. He could be anything.
Yogata toa of the moon
Aug 15 2003, 08:12 AM
He seems to fit the defenition of god to me. Not all gods are declared perfect or just look at greek mythology. But he is not a physical being somthing divine and spiritual so I would say yes he is a god. Also there are people who defy gods without fear usually called heathens, so if you think about matorans being heathens in a good sense then it makes sense.
GaliGee
Aug 15 2003, 08:15 AM
| QUOTE |
Q: Mata Nui and Makuta are spirits right, and spirits are immortal. Doesn't that make Makuta always come back after being defeated? A: Okay two things.. one, the movie trailer does say that Makuta is immortal, but personally I don't believe that. And two, according to Matoran belief, they are spirits -- but that is their BELIEF. You can't always interpret literally how the Matoran view the universe... remember, there were tribal cultures on Earth that believed the world rested on the back of a giant turtle.
|
That's from the GregF database. Greg also says that Makuta can change his form to whatever he wants it to be, and that he has been on Mata Nui for a long, long time before the coming of the Toa.
So, it seems to me that Makuta is a mighty, evil being with supernatural powers, but I wouldn't call him a god. (But he would probably call himself a god...
)
Vapu Chroma
Aug 15 2003, 08:17 AM
People worship gods though. The matoran dont worship him! He is an evil spirit. The Bionicle equivalent of Satan in the Bible. He wants to be a God but is condemned for doing so.
Yogata toa of the moon
Aug 15 2003, 08:20 AM
| QUOTE (Yogata toa of the moon @ Aug 15 2003, 09:12 AM) |
| He seems to fit the defenition of god to me. Not all gods are declared perfect or just look at greek mythology. But he is not a physical being somthing divine and spiritual so I would say yes he is a god. Also there are people who defy gods without fear usually called heathens, so if you think about matorans being heathens in a good sense then it makes sense. |
I shall quote myself, in one sense because of lack of worship he is not a god so that may be why lego strays away from saying god but he is spiritual and mighty any way you look at it so in that sense he is a god. But gods are not necissarily idolized. So it depends on how you look at him. In another sense a god is a powerful ruler or despot but that doesn't mean a god can't be a tyrant what Makuta wants to be over Mata nui.
Bohrok Awakener
Aug 15 2003, 08:39 AM
He is a sort of god, basically more power and spirit than body. What is God's species? None, becuase he is more spirit than body.
Takarahk
Aug 15 2003, 09:49 AM
Well he may or may not be a great being. Im no sure. But I think he is a bit like a demigod. Then again that might no be very accurate. It seem that he is more spirit and energy than anything else. It doesnt really matter if he takes a body or not. Remember he is a shape shifter.
Inuyasha
Aug 15 2003, 10:12 AM
Well, we know that he's Mata-Nui's brother, so that makes him vey powerful, but I think that he's something like a demon. Powerful, yet evil. He was probably banished to Mata-Nui as punishment for his evil acts, so perhaps he's been weakened and is now a less-powerful being. He was probably never a Great Being, but something like one.
-Inuyasha
Lewmo Nuva
Aug 15 2003, 10:23 AM
He's probably a "semi-great" being or something like that...
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Zokara
Aug 15 2003, 01:22 PM
Is it just me, or does Greg F. stress that the legends of the Matoran are only legends a
lot? I think we will find that the Matoran were misled about the nature of Makuta, Mata Nui, or some other destiny-related thing sometime in the future.
Bohrok Awakener
Aug 15 2003, 01:38 PM
Well, we know Makuta is real, so Mata Nui must be... the only thing that might not be real is the Legend of how Makuta was jealous, etc.
Yogata toa of the moon
Aug 15 2003, 09:05 PM
I do not think bionicle is trying to make makuta a stereotype of evil and his relationship with Mata nui a God/Satan thing. He did not put his brother to sleep and torment the matoran for fun. Comparing bionicle to the bible is a bit bizare in my opinion for example Takanuva the pure figure can die but Makuta cannot. There are multiple "gods" and Mata nui does not rule paradise. Actually it is in many ways like Islam with the matoran discovering one "god"/"Idol" means one people and Takua being the Muhammed propheit. But it is such a mix I dought one religion is the dominant influence.
Kohdok
Aug 16 2003, 02:10 AM
It's called the Kraahkan...
I don't think Makuta is a being, but more of an essence. He might have taken form through another being by sort of possessing it.
I do have a crazy little thoery of mine:
It goes a little like this...
Long ago, Mata Nui and Makuta waged war on each other. Mata-Nui tried to protect his paradise, while Makuta lusted to make ikt his own.
To aid them, the two each created a champion; Mata-Nui had Takanuva, where Makuta had ShadowNuva. The two fought valiently and so hard that they shook the very island itself. However, ShadowNuva proved to be too powerful, and Takanuva was banished, leaving Mata-Nui unprotected.
Merging with his victorious champion, Makuta took it upon himself to make sure that Mata-Nui fell into a sleep so deep that fear of opposition was gone.
Well? Crazy, or WHAT?! ShadowNuva would wear the Kraakahn, like Takanuva had the Avohkii.
Winged Serpent
Aug 16 2003, 09:30 AM
Saruwatari Taiki
Aug 16 2003, 04:31 PM
well, I believe he is the Spirit of Destruction (duh) , but that does not mean he can't be defeated. Or maybe e is just a really (really really!) powerul being, who wants to be a God.
Mr. Smiley
Aug 28 2003, 04:51 PM
I know how Makuta looks!His toy is hecka tight!You can get him NOW!!!!
Takuta-Nui
Aug 28 2003, 08:10 PM
I believe that Makuta is not a god, but more like a Demi-God. He cannot do everything, and he has been nearly defeated by the Toa. The Toa are mortal beings, but Makuta is also mortal but he is just more powerful.
Holla Back Girl
Aug 28 2003, 08:12 PM
makuta can be whatever species he wants to be, considering the fact that he is a shapeshifter.
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