Well, I was sitting around doing nothing the other day and suddenly it hit me. It was like WHAM, someone had punched me with a two-ton bag of sand. Then a beam of light shone froma bove me and angels started flyign around as I had this amazing revelation---

Well, something similar anyways. But Now I'm droning on, and you just want to know whatr I'm blabbing about.

Okay, surely everyone who knows the first thing about Bionicle has seen pics of the Avohkii and the Kraakhan. Now, I know I can't be the only one who's noticed that the upright form of the Kraakhan looks suspiciously like the Avohkii, the Mask of Light?

Well, suddenly it occured to me, that we already know that Takanuva and makuta are goign to merge together into Takutanuva sometime durning the movie......

And the Kraakhan has two forms......

And one looks lkike a combination of the Avohkii and the Kraakhan.....


Could thaty eb what it's supposed to BE? Is the upright form of the Kraakhan supposed to be the mask Takutanuva wears? It makes sense!

EDIT: Here's a pic of the Avohkii and the "Avohkii form" of the Kraakhan to show you what I'm saying.

CLICK THIS LINK.


Sorry if this is a dupe topic, but if it isn't, please post your thoughts on this theory here.

~SMEAGOL ~

I never noticed that before! Maybe it is! They do look alarmingly similar. You should pm Greg F.

QUOTE (TakaNuva Vahi Master @ Aug 22 2003, 05:29 PM)

You should pm Greg F.

I think I will.....I have a few other questions, so I'll just bundle 'em all into one PM.

~SMEAGOL ~

Yes, I noticed that before. I mentioned it before, too.
And I'm sure GregF already knows.

I could provide comparison pics, but my scanner's not working FSR.

I agree; you should try to pm Gregf and I sort of guessed that the Kraakan's secound form had another purpose.

Why does everyone want to hassle GregF about this? Trust me, he knows much more about Bionicle than we do. Don't waste the man's time with trivial information.

QUOTE (Lord Lupus @ Aug 22 2003, 09:57 PM)

Why does everyone want to hassle GregF about this? Trust me, he knows much more about Bionicle than we do. Don't waste the man's time with trivial information.

Oh, I don't think that that is trivial information! I think it's fascinating, and it's a wonder I never noticed it before. Really, it does look it. I'll try to gather comparison pics, although I doubt there are many images of the upright set version of the Kraahkan.


-CM

I think he can have the mask face either way he wants. I think it was made so he could have a mask that makes him look like a rahkshi like creature and a darkish looking ahvokii

QUOTE (Lord Lupus @ Aug 22 2003, 05:46 PM)

And I'm sure GregF already knows.

Of course he knows. That's why I'm going to ask him if I'm right, because he'd know the answer.

QUOTE

Oh, I don't think that that is trivial information! I think it's fascinating, and it's a wonder I never noticed it before. Really, it does look it. I'll try to gather comparison pics, although I doubt there are many images of the upright set version of the Kraahkan.

Thanks. I know of some pics, so I'll go find 'em.

~SMEAGOL ~

It IS trivial, when you compare it to the wealth of Bionicle info he no doubt already knows...

And as I feared, my scanner seems to have completely packed up. Sorry I couldn't get those pics.

QUOTE (Lord Lupus @ Aug 22 2003, 06:27 PM)

It IS trivial, when you compare it to the wealth of Bionicle info he no doubt already knows... And as I feared, my scanner seems to have completely packed up. Sorry I couldn't get those pics.

What the heck are you talking about? You may think it's trivial (which, by the way, is merely your OPINION. I mean, has it occured to you that some people priorities may be different than yours?), but it's something I'd liek to know the answer to, so I'll ask GregF the answer. He allows us to ask our questions about the Bionicle storyline via PM, does he not? This is a question about the bionicle storyline, is it not? It's something I waould liek to know the answer to, is it not? It doesn't even affect you, so why do you even care if I ask GregF or not?

~SMEAGOL ~

Very intersting theory you have in fact I like it sounds good . Cool what they can think up .

QUOTE (Smeagol4 @ Aug 22 2003, 10:40 PM)

QUOTE (Lord Lupus @ Aug 22 2003, 06:27 PM) It IS trivial, when you compare it to the wealth of Bionicle info he no doubt already knows... And as I feared, my scanner seems to have completely packed up. Sorry I couldn't get those pics. What the heck are you talking about? You may think it's trivial (which, by the way, is merely your OPINION. I mean, has it occured to you that some people priorities may be different than yours?), but it's something I'd liek to know the answer to, so I'll ask GregF the answer. He allows us to ask our questions about the Bionicle storyline via PM, does he not? This is a question about the bionicle storyline, is it not? It's something I waould liek to know the answer to, is it not? It doesn't even affect you, so why do you even care if I ask GregF or not? ~SMEAGOL ~

You misunderstand.

By all means, ask him if there's any relevance behind it and whatnot, but don't PM him asking if he noticed.

QUOTE (Lord Lupus @ Aug 22 2003, 07:00 PM)

You misunderstand. By all means, ask him if there's any relevance behind it and whatnot, but don't PM him asking if he noticed.

Oh, I wasn't going to ask him if he noticed, I was going to ask him if it was made liek that for this reason! I misunderstood your misunderstanding.

~SMEAGOL ~

Wow Smeagol4, that is a great theory. I think you may be right. Lol, I remember you... nah it doesn't matter now .

Hmmm I never noticed that! Nice find! That is very interesting. Maybe that is what it is for. But that doesn't really explain why it would have that other form (that looks like Rahkshi) when that doesn't even appear in the movie. (to our knowledge)

KS

QUOTE (Kanohi searcher @ Aug 22 2003, 07:19 PM)

Hmmm I never noticed that! Nice find! That is very interesting. Maybe that is what it is for. But that doesn't really explain why it would have that other form (that looks like Rahkshi) when that doesn't even appear in the movie. (to our knowledge) <span style='font-family:rahkshi font'>KS

Well, it seems to me that the one Makuta wears in the movie is the "Rahkshi" form, which is the form you see on all his "box shots."

PS: Happy B-day

QUOTE (Raba2 @ Aug 22 2003, 07:16 PM )

Lol, I remember you... nah it doesn't matter now  .

Whaaaaaaat?

~SMEAGOL ~</span>

I have edited the first post with THIS comparison shot of an Avohkii and the "Avohkii-form" of the Kraakhan. So now you can all see what I'm talking about. See how they have the exact same eyes and mouthpiece, and how the A-F Kraahkan has the three litle holes that the Avohkii has, but of little mini-versions of the *kakama* plates ont he side of the Rahkshi-Form Kraakhan?

~SMEAGOL~

EDIT: Sorry for the DP, I thought someone else had posted, I must've had an earlier psot on my screen.

I don't see the likeness...sorry...they just don't look similar... Well, if you turn your head this way, and close this eye, and kinda squint with the other, and slightly close your hand over the eye that is open, I guess it kinda does look alike...lol...

wow i never noticed that it makes sense that takutanuva may wear it, but to my knowledge i didn't know that form was in the movie good theory though

QUOTE (Gamizee @ Aug 22 2003, 08:50 PM)

wow i never noticed that it makes sense that takutanuva may wear it, but to my knowledge i didn't know that form was in the movie good theory though

Well, we haven't seen pics of Takutanuva as he appears in the movie, which actually supports my theory because we haven't seen the A-F Kraahkan ina movie screenshot, and we haven't seen Takutanuva in a movie screenshot......so maybe that's why we haven't seen it?

Just something to chew on.

QUOTE (Samurai_Pohatu @ on Aug 22 2003, 08:50 PM )

I don't see the likeness...sorry...they just don't look similar... Well, if you turn your head this way, and close this eye, and kinda squint with the other, and slightly close your hand over the eye that is open, I guess it kinda does look alike...lol...

Similarities:

• exact same mouthpiece
  
• same eyes
  
• same little holes on cheeks
  

Differences:

• pakari forehead
  
• "horns" on top
  

See now?


~SMEAGOL ~

wow.....man I never noticed. But I think the clear Avakovii is when Takanuva looses his power (like Toa Nuva's turn into proto color.) but I might be wrong. I thought that the upright form of Makuta;s mask was his battle form.....wow

who knows.........(well besides GregF )

QUOTE (Mask Of Time @ Aug 22 2003, 09:03 PM)

wow.....man I never noticed. But I think the clear Avakovii is when Takanuva looses his power (like Toa Nuva's turn into proto color.) but I might be wrong. I thought that the upright form of Makuta;s mask was his battle form.....wow who knows.........(well besides GregF )

Actually, the clear/glittery Avohkii is the exact opposite of what you said. It's the Acohkii when it's powered up to the full extent of its abilities.

~SMEAGOL ~

Yeah...those are DLed. If it has bzpower.com in the addy, it's DLed.

MM

It could possible the combination of the avohkii and kraahkan! In most makuta pictures (movie and set) his mask is down, but so is takutanuva's!

QUOTE (Makuta Master @ Aug 23 2003, 04:48 AM)

Yeah...those are DLed. If it has bzpower.com in the addy, it's DLed. MM

okay, the heads-up. I'll go replace them with a link.

~SMEAGOL ~

QUOTE (Yogata toa of the moon @ Aug 22 2003, 06:10 PM)

I think he can have the mask face either way he wants. I think it was made so he could have a mask that makes him look like a rahkshi like creature and a darkish looking ahvokii.

No offense but those pic's were public in a bzp review a month ago. It is cool but Makuta can have his mask look either way depending on how his head faces. I have the set if his head is erect it looks like the Ahvokii but when lied down the mask looks serpenty. It doesn't involve Takutanuva I don't think.

They are linked, yes. Wait a second... if the MoL and the MoS are so similar, what if Takanuva wears the MoS and Makuta the MoL? Then they fuse and make the "Non-rahkshi-like Kraahkan". It sounds kinda dumb, but you never know. Although I think it is quite interesting...

I'll try to search differences

-rah

Wow, that is simler. Very linked. You might have solved this quizer.

QUOTE (Yogata toa of the moon @ Aug 23 2003, 12:23 PM)

No offense but those pic's were public in a bzp review a month ago.

I know. They were the best comparison shots I could find, but with that clear avohkii they still aren't much. I wish they had used the gold or silver one. Oh well.

~SMEAGOL ~

yeah i did notice that and if u look @ the top of the krakaahn it looks like the back of a kraata http://www.bzpower.com/Imaging/stories/kra...r_avohkii_2.jpg

it does, great find!!!... and that may be, about the mask they wear, and the top does look like the back of a kratta!! interesting,very

That's a good theory, and i think it is so

QUOTE (OmegaTahu92 @ Aug 24 2003, 10:24 AM)

yeah i did notice that and if u look @ the top of the krakaahn it looks like the back of a kraata http://www.bzpower.com/Imaging/stories/kra...r_avohkii_2.jpg

Heh, I never noticed that it looked like a Kraata in the RFK. I was too busy forming this theory about the AFK being Takutanuva's mask!!

~SMEAGOL ~

I never saw that before. but what about the movie addition kraakhan compared to the avahokkii. now theres a big difference.

hey cool good eye

Gee I never thought of that... I can't wait to see the movie and have all theese questions answered.

i just thought of that now. extremely good find. It is very possible that is the mask side for takatanuva.

Wow, a very good revelation...but we'll have to wait and see for the movie now, won't we?

The Wanderer

Awesome thought. Just makes me want the movie even more. I would really like to see whether this is correct or not. Sounds highly likely though. Be sure to tell us what GregF says.

QUOTE (Cozmo @ Aug 24 2003, 08:01 PM)

I never saw that before. but what about the movie addition kraakhan compared to the avahokkii. now theres a big difference.

yeah, but he=aven't you seen the Avohkii as it appears int he movie? the MeA is similar to the MeK.

~SMEAGOL ~

Good thinking!
However, I think they are similar just because they are opposite powers shadows/light.

yes:lol: but, no

It is possible, caus we know that Takutanuva wears a kraahkan,what form of it we do knot know.

QUOTE (bioguy7 @ Aug 25 2003, 10:32 PM)

yes:lol:  but, no

I have no clue what you're saying, but I will tell you that posts less than ten words are considered

Don't do that.

As for the topic at hand, I am goign to PM GregF today probably....I've beenr eally busy lately and I haven't had the chance. (First I'm gonna paint my new Tau Hammerhead Gunship though! )

~SMEAGOL ~