I realized in the end of comic 12, Makuta says "Go, my sons, my Rahkshi! Use the shadows. And keep my brother asleep."

The Rahkshi were in charge of making sure that the seventh toa does
not come

Mata Nui is Makuta's brother

Makuta put Mata Nui into a long sleep

Does anyone else see the connection I made?

I realized in the end of comic 12, Makuta says "Go, my sons, my Rahkshi! Use the shadows. And keep my brother asleep."

The Rahkshi were in charge of making sure that the seventh toa does
not come

Mata Nui is Makuta's brother

Makuta put Mata Nui into a long sleep

Does anyone else see the connection I made?

No, GregF has already confirmed that the ToL isn't Mata-Nui. 'Nuff said.

Yep Takanuva=Not Mata-nui. I read the book.

-DS

Lol, yeah, it seems very likely, but nope... GregF, as well as the book has said Not Mata-Nui. And, I have a Link...
The Official Takanuva Topic. So, if you have any more Takanuva Theories, please Post them there.

...:::FH

If my memory serves me correctly, Takanuva is used to awaken Mata Nui, that's why Makuta said "And keep my brother asleep", he wants Takanuva out of the picture so his brother(Mata Nui) may stay in his eternal sleep.

Honestly, it wouldn't make sense. If the Toa were Mata-Nui's "sons", then why would he himself be one?

Actually, no. Greg has said many times that Takanuva is not Mata Nui.
What Makuta means is that if Takanuva awakes, he will fulfill his destiny, which is to defeat Makuta. And if Makuta is defeated, the Toa Nuva will fulfill their destiny, which is to awaken Mata Nui.

-Master of the Rahkshi

QUOTE (MOX @ Aug 27 2003, 12:46 PM)

Honestly, it wouldn't make sense. If the Toa were Mata-Nui's "sons", then why would he himself be one?

That's moving to a completely other theory. IF Takanuva was Mata Nui, he wouldn't have to be the toa that you see, he could be the mask, or in the mask, and the mask could create the toa. Heck, that theory is still possible.

Ok, I am getting tired of people just shooting down my theories. If you disagree with me, tell why. And how else can you explain my evidence?

QUOTE (bmw @ Aug 27 2003, 01:43 PM)

Ok, I am getting tired of people just shooting down my theories. If you disagree with me, tell why. And how else can you explain my evidence?

Haven't you been reading? Members who have the book say no, GregF says no, and that's more than enough proof right there. It's a good theory, but it has been discussed many, many times. So, there you have it. Takanuva is not Mata-Nui.

FYI: A theory is not a fact because it lacks evidence.

Greg said that the ToL was not mata nui and besides if mata nui is asleep then why is Takanuva awake.

He ment that if Takanuva awoke then destroyed him ,
that would mean that Mata-nui could awake . ( And we
know that there's something even worse coming so no
need to worry if this is the end of it all .

*Takes deep breath and lets it out*
No. Greg's confirmed that he is not Mata-Nui, Gali, and hasn't ruled out the possibility of him being a transformed character. Plus, there's a official Takanuva topic HERE

-Inuyasha

QUOTE (bmw @ Aug 27 2003, 01:43 PM)

Ok, I am getting tired of people just shooting down my theories. If you disagree with me, tell why. And how else can you explain my evidence?

You clearly do not know who GregF is: he is the guy who writes the comics AND a member of this site.

i higly doubt takanuva is mata-nui, i'm sure when makuta said to keep mata-nui asleep he meant that takanuva would wake him i think............

plus to become a toa he would need to wake up and put the mask on so unless the toa wake him up and give him the MoL..........

This should be closed as it has been confirmed that Takanuva is not Mata Nui

Hang on, Greg said that Makuta bars the way to where Mata-Nui
is sleeping, sooo... how is Takanuva supposed to defeat Makuta
if he is asleep, bmw? Your theory can't work.

No, Takanuva is not Mata Nui. Mata Nui is still asleep, and will be for years to come.

YOUR MOTHER KNOWS...

QUOTE (Transo @ Aug 29 2003, 02:25 PM)

No, Takanuva is not Mata Nui. Mata Nui is still asleep, and will be for years to come. YOUR MOTHER KNOWS...

If you have read the MoL book than you will know that
he won't be asleep that long. With Makuta out of the
way there is really nothing stopping the Toa awakening
Mata-Nui.

No I dont think so. He says keep my brother asleep meaning Takanuva. Once the MOL is on Takanuva he is awakened or something.

QUOTE (SilverAkaku @ Aug 29 2003, 08:58 AM)

QUOTE (bmw @ Aug 27 2003, 01:43 PM) Ok, I am getting tired of people just shooting down my theories.  If you disagree with me, tell why.  And how else can you explain my evidence? You clearly do not know who GregF is: he is the guy who writes the comics AND a member of this site.

No, I do not know who GregF is. And I am tired of people telling me GregF denies my theory. Why doesn't GregF come and tell me personally! And what's wrong with me being able to have a theory? I live in America! I have my rights! I have the freedom of speech! That's all.

I had a topic about this in Bio. Movies. It was closed because GregF confirmed alredy that Takanuva is not Mata Nui. I had the same evidence as you and everything.

PS: You don't know who GregF is?

Dude Im sorry but Greg has (probably)saw the movie!If you to want pm him dont. (he kinda got sick of these topics).You dont know who GregF is!hes the wrighter of the bionicle comic books!
Jala 1435

Why is everyone surprised that I don't know who GregF is? I read the comics, not read who writes them! and could we get off the subject og GregF, I did not start a topic about him. I started a topic of my Takanuva/Mata Nui theory. And I don't want any posts saying that GregF denies my theory. I want to know why YOU deny my theory, or agree with it.

Ok...How can you be asleep and then again still be awake??also what did the rahkshi do at all? Who awoke matanui If hes gonna be takanuva?also Takanuva came from somewhere else.Matanui has been to Matanui.Takanuva hasnt.

I think Takanuva will be asleep until someone puts the Mask of light near him. Until then, He is asleep

I still have two more for you to answer.I edited my post.

Ok Jala 1435. Maybe you didn't understand my theory completely. I beleive that Mata Nui is still asleep, and Makuta knows where he is. But, I believe that Mata Nui's Spirit has wandered off, and has either become or inhabits Takanuva. Makuta doesn't know where Takanuva is, so he sent the Rahkshi to find him.

Ok...you stumped me but im back.His spirits asleep.to tell you the truth he is a spirt

Your theory is flawed. Takanuva has to be awakened to defeat Makuta. Makuta has to be defeated do the other toa can awake Mata Nui. It has to happen in that order. We have even seen pictures of Takanuva and Makuta together but Mata Nui cannot be awake while Makuta is dead. Therefore Mata Nui is not Takanuva.

If Mata Nui is a spirit, and Makuta is Mata Nui's brother, howcome Makuta is not a spirit? And how do you put a spirit to sleep? And howcome whenever the Turaga tell the story of Mata Nui, thay would be representing a spirit with a rock?

he is a spirit...the spirit of destruction.you see ,the kratta are parts of makuta.Only a spirit would be-able to take a part of himself and create somethin else outta that.Its simple to put a spirit to sleep,you just need a special kind of spell.the part about the rock:they use it cause you cant just hold a spirit.

Ok. If Makuta is a spirit, Howcome Lego put out a set Of Makuta that looks pretty non-spirit-like to me. And for Takanuva to Fight Makuta, wouldn't he need to be a spirit, in order to defeat a spirit?

simple:Makutas a shape shifter.He chose that exact form

If Makuta is a shape shifter, howcome there is only one lego set of him, and not millions, one for each shape? And do you know of any other shapes he has, besides the rock in Turaga story telling?

simple(again )To much money making the same charcter.also im sure people will take the Makut set and make a MOC.wouldent that be a shape shift?ps:this needs to be closed.

If you use that excuse yes. But then couldn't you call Kopaka a shapeshifter? I have built several different things out of that set. Also, couldn't Lego include instructions for an alternate Makuta model? and you still never told me what other shapes you have known Makuta to be in.

Makutas shapes Motran,toa,anything you could think of.
Jala 1435

Two words:

Official Topic.