I believe Makuta is lying about protecting his brother. He is dishonest and a lier at a same time. Also to settle if Makuta's evil or good I'll tell you: he is evil, pure evil, and here's what greg says to back up my theorie

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No, Makuta is not good. I know some people think he is, but that's because they taking everything he says in the movie at face value. Even if he isn't lying, you can be sure he is leaving stuff out. As for whether he is alive or dead .. I don't know either. I am not sure what the future plans for Makuta are or aren't beyond MOL.

so there you have it, even he says so, so please no more Makuta is good topics. Now this should prove that Makuta's evil.

Finally, I would like to tell everyone who has time to read this to put all you think about Makuta being good or bad here. I've seen to many topics about Makuta being good or bad, so put it all here, don't make anymore of those topics please.

THANK YOU!!!! now maybe people will come to there senses, i never thought he was good!

But, he never said that he was bad. He is neither. He was obsesed with protecting his brother, and went to far. That can be described as neither good or bad.

Bad? No
Good? No
Obbsesed? Yes

Tal if he is not good he is bad even greg says so, I just put this here to stop all the good Makuta topics. Anyone who wants to talk about Makuta being bad or good reply here, don't make anymore topics about this, please!

I agree with tal he just got obsesed with protecting his brother(at least how he think's)and went to far.

Okay, just discuss if Makuta is good, bad, obssessed, or whatever here.

I still consider him gray... neither good nor evil at this point... but what greg says goes...

I think he's a nut case who told himself that, just to comfort himself

Yes, I believe he was haunted by his betrayel, and so he built up adefence: he was protecting his brother. After so many years in darkness, Makuta trully believed this. But the merging of Takutanuva tore through that wall of defence.... awakened the truth within.... and Makuta was forced to awaken his brother.

So, Shinnok, if what you are saying is true than Mata-nui is already awake. I thought he was still asleep.

Makuta's duty is to the mask of shadows. The mask must have had a pure evil mind and tricked Makuta into thinking that he is protecting Mata-Nui, so that the evil mask would be able to use Makuta to unleash his shadows.

-Tokama

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Makuta's duty is to the mask of shadows

That is not true. It was a mistake on the mis-communication between the script writers and the StoryKeepers. If it was true, it would mean Makuta works for a higher power, but we can all assume he does indeed work for himself.


Now...

I believe Shinnok is somewhere on the right lines. Makuta was jealous of his brother and how much the Matoran worshipped him. So they ended up in a 'typical' sybling scuffle, which ended in Makuta seriously ingoring his brother. He then cast his spell of Slumber to keep Mata Nui from pain.

He then felt enormous guilt from this, and his life turned to a life in the shadows, and he became seduced by the darkness, and his own thoughts of guilt consumed him, and the Makuta as we (partially) know him came to be.

So he now relies on a lie that's true, but no one believes in the thigs he does, because half of the lies he tells aren't true.

And now I've confused myself.

QB
(a Stereophonics fan if anyone could tell from my last statement)

QUOTE (~QB~ @ Oct 31 2003, 12:59 PM)

QUOTE That is not true. It was a mistake on the mis-communication between the script writers and the StoryKeepers. If it was true, it would mean Makuta works for a higher power, but we can all assume he does indeed work for himself.

Lewa says everyone has a duty on Mata-Nui (The island, not the spirit) in MOL. That includes Makuta. If that's not true, there is a lot of miscommunication!

-Tokama

Here is a description for Makuta's evil.Mata nui was ill for some reson.Makuta saw this so he put Mata nui in a deap sleap.Makuta wanted to be the reliever for mata nui.How ever the matoran and turaga and later the toa believed that he wanted to rule mata nui for they did not know Mata nui was ill and also jujed him on his aperens(I am not saying the matoran turaga and toa are evill you to would not trust a troll to give you a present even if he was good).Now I said makuta was not evil I never said he was unegoastic or in other words a being who find's it hard to easyly to tolorate anything or discus problem's or not take somthing the wrong way round.Makuta thought that mataron knew Mata nui was ill so he thought the matoran turaga and toa are evill trying to awake his brother into pain.So he cast the rahi the borock the borock kal and the rakshki in order to defeat them.The reson we believe the matoran and not Makuta is because we have seen 3 years of the matorans story while we only see 7 seconds of Makuta's story.sory about any typo's.

It's possible that Makuta may turn good. He may also have been good at one point but then gotten obsessed. That's what I think.

kopaka22

QUOTE (Tokama @ Oct 31 2003, 07:07 PM)

QUOTE (~QB~ @ Oct 31 2003, 12:59 PM) QUOTE That is not true. It was a mistake on the mis-communication between the script writers and the StoryKeepers. If it was true, it would mean Makuta works for a higher power, but we can all assume he does indeed work for himself. Lewa says everyone has a duty on Mata-Nui (The island, not the spirit) in MOL. That includes Makuta. If that's not true, there is a lot of miscommunication! -Tokama

Nope. It's true. Checkout this quote from Raptordx1's "Makuta: the Personification of Fear" topic.

QUOTE (Zokara @ Oct 6 2003, 10:15 PM)

I hate to be the only one to punch holes in this theory, Raptor, but I have a few things to say. This is from big Farshtey himself: "I can only comment a little on this, because it is going to be discussed more in future. Basically, Makuta believes Mata Nui to be ill, and that it is his job to keep him essentially comatose. But I can tell you that his reasons for doing so are NOT because he is a noble caregiver, and it is also an open question just who made him sick in the first place (three guesses)." So this heavily implies that Makuta's intentions are more obsessive than good. Greg also said that the "My duty is to the Mask of Shadows" quote was somewhat of a mistake between the story bible and the directors. He said that as of now, Makuta answers to no higher power.

^ See ^

No higher power.

QB

QUOTE (taint @ Oct 29 2003, 11:01 PM)

Tal if he is not good he is bad even greg says so, I just put this here to stop all the good Makuta topics.  Anyone who wants to talk about Makuta being bad or good reply here, don't make anymore topics about this, please!

He never siad he was bad, just not good.

P.s. Yes, Mata-Nui is awake, but not freed.

I hope this topic works, as I'm as tired as everyone else of the Makuta's good or Makuta's evil topics. Lets just discuss it all in one place.

Now my position is that Makuta is evil. And its an easily defended position. Makuta is the bad guy in Lego's story, end of story! Why else would they describe him as "the dark spirit Makuta?" The Toa, Matoran, and Turaga are the good guys and are therefore "good." The Makuta, Rahkshi and controlled Rahi were bad and therefore "evil."

Now I understand all the sociological theories on good and evil and all that (I have a soc degree in fact) but remember, this is a "story." Its not even an adult story but is one for children (I'm sorry if you don't like that term but thats the target audience) and children's stories don't include bad guys who turn out to be good, they have easily understood characters that are either "good" or "bad". Remember, it still has to be easy enough for a younger child to understand.

So since Lego has said from the begining that Makuta is evil, I'm going to stick with that theory no matter what he says. After all, would you believe someone who everyone, including your parents, teachers and the police, have told you was bad and to stay away from but who told you he was just misunderstood? I don't think so, you would go and report the person because you would be worried he might be trying something. Its the same thing here.

So until Lego reverses their position and says Makuta is good, I'll stick with him being evil.

True words c35. But what if he was not evil and turned good, or good and turned evil: but bad and got worse as his jealousy rose. This might be something LEGO is trying to teach kids: "Don't be jealous".

But for more mature fans, it gives a deep sense of character, which is what we want.

QB

It is directed to kids, but Lego still knows about all of us mature fans. And, little kids can probably understand my theory of obsesion, which is very reasonable.
Also, who says the Turaga know everything? They were the ones that called Makuta "an evil spirit" or "jeleous". They are wise, but not wise enough to understand Gods.
Also ussualy, people do not tend to look at the opponets side of the story. Makuta is just obbsesed, but the Turaga and Matoran don't know that. They are so into their own theories, that they do not care to look and see if Makuta really is obsessed.
Makuta just might be a caring loving brother of Mata-Nui, but is too caring.
You still might say why he sent the Rahi, well, this is why: He thought the Matoran and Turaga and Toa were betraying Mata-nui by wanting to wake him up. He was so focused on punishing them, that he forgot to actually TELL them WHY he was doing it. They eventually came to think that Makuta was evil, and that he batrayed Mata-nui, becuase they did not know about the pain.
Makuta finnaly came to his senses in his battle with Takanuva, and told them. He also figured out how he was too obsesed, and payed for his actions by giving his life force to revive Jaller, and to help lift the Hau with Takanuva as Takutanuva.
Makuta is actually a very good person. He was just misunderstood.

Right tal just because some one is good it dose not mean they are understanding and tolorant.

QUOTE (kymset toa of void and dimention @ Nov 1 2003, 01:51 AM)

Right tal just because some one is good it dose not mean they are understanding and tolorant.

True, much like the people today.

The bottom line is in legends and myths there is always a protagonist and an antagonist, mata-nui and the toa stand as the the protagonists {the good guys} and Makuta and his thugs as the antagonits {the bad guys} I really can't possibly see how you could say he's any good. I suppose you could think that he has some good in him as vader did, but the bottom line is, he hurts others through himself and the use of his minions, he's evil, thats it.

So he's just a low-life villain, like Brainiac? I thought Lego would never have a pure evil character.

QUOTE (Kopaka Avenger @ Nov 2 2003, 12:34 AM)

I really can't possibly see how you could say he's any good.

Yep, that proves it, no one looks at my posts.

Tal, I have been reading everyone's replies since I created this topic, and if I didn't read the replies I wouldn't have made the topic unless to inform people about something. I just think that he's pure evil, all evil, and there is nothing good about him. At least, that's what I think.
Off topic: look at my sig. Oh yes, and remeber we're trying to put a stop to all the Makuta's evil/ makuta's good topics, so anyone who wants to stop them post all your things about Makuta theories right here.

QUOTE (taint @ Nov 2 2003, 08:01 PM)

Tal, I have been reading everyone's replies since I created this topic, and if I didn't read the replies I wouldn't have made the topic unless to inform people about something. I just think that he's pure evil, all evil, and there is nothing good about him. At least, that's what I think. Off topic: look at my sig. Oh yes, and remeber we're trying to put a stop to all the Makuta's evil/ makuta's good topics, so anyone who wants to stop them post all your things about Makuta theories right here.

The thing is Taint, is that you have no proof, or at leats a deatailed explanation. And I meant that no one can see the logicalness of my theory. It was an expression.

You are right taint about Makuta not being good but I still not sure if he has always been evil.

Good! It was obvious that he was bad. If he was good wouldn't he be helping the toa.

-Wildcat

Tal, I understand your theory but where's your proof? You give a very detailed explination, which is why I understand where your coming from, but your whole theory is based on a couple of lines from the movie, where as I'm basing my beliefs on two plus years of the story?

But lets look at your theory for a moment. You claim that Makuta is just obsessed and is not evil, just misunderstood. What we need to figure out is how we determine if something is "evil" or "bad" (I'm going to say that the two are the same thing here since this is a story based roughly on tribal legends and the two are used interchangably in many of those). Now we as a society have norms which we all, mostly, agree are good and then have the things which violate the norms and we think are bad. The way we determine if someone is bad is by looking at their actions and what they were thinking.

So lets apply this to the problem of Makuta. We have two years of actions that all show him to do bad or evil things. But do we know what his mental process was? Not really. All we have to go on is a few statements he makes in the movie. Now you have already gone into the whole discussion of the keeping Mata Nui asleep because of pain, but lets look at some of the other things he says. He says that he is going to hurt their unity, duty and destiny when he is releasing the Rahkshi, that shows that he wants to do "bad" things to them. So wouldn't that cancel his statment about helping Mata Nui out? There are other statments in the movie as well that don't show him to be thinking "nice" thoughts but I can't remember them exactly right now.

So we have a whole bunch of actions that show he is "bad" and one statement giving him an excuse because he is trying to do good in his own mind and at least one statement that he is doing bad things. I wouldn't say that this makes him a good person.

Heres another thing to consider about what Makuta says and how credible he is. Doesn't he tell Takuanuva that if he beats him at Kohlii he can try and open the door? Then when he's beaten does he let him, no, he shows that he lies and trys to stop him again. So he had already been lying before making the statement about Mata Nui's pain, I don't think he stopped at that point.

I guess rather than go on with my slightly disjointed thoughts about this, I'll leave you with this. If someone spent two years trying to beat you up and take things from you day after day, then when you've finally had enough and stand up to them and stop them from doing it again they tell you that they were doing it because they thought it was the right thing to do, are you going to believe them? I understand that forgiveness is a good thing, but most people are not going to forgive two years of pain and suffering just because the other person was misunderstood. They are going to class that other person as "bad" or in this case "evil" and leave it at that. So why are we doing anything different here?

Well, I wasn't so sure, but now that I see so much proof in one place, I'm positive that he's evil.

-Of Doom

QUOTE (ccso35 @ Nov 3 2003, 07:07 PM)

Tal, I understand your theory but where's your proof? You give a very detailed explination, which is why I understand where your coming from, but your whole theory is based on a couple of lines from the movie, where as I'm basing my beliefs on two plus years of the story? But lets look at your theory for a moment. You claim that Makuta is just obsessed and is not evil, just misunderstood. What we need to figure out is how we determine if something is "evil" or "bad" (I'm going to say that the two are the same thing here since this is a story based roughly on tribal legends and the two are used interchangably in many of those). Now we as a society have norms which we all, mostly, agree are good and then have the things which violate the norms and we think are bad. The way we determine if someone is bad is by looking at their actions and what they were thinking. So lets apply this to the problem of Makuta. We have two years of actions that all show him to do bad or evil things. But do we know what his mental process was? Not really. All we have to go on is a few statements he makes in the movie. Now you have already gone into the whole discussion of the keeping Mata Nui asleep because of pain, but lets look at some of the other things he says. He says that he is going to hurt their unity, duty and destiny when he is releasing the Rahkshi, that shows that he wants to do "bad" things to them. So wouldn't that cancel his statment about helping Mata Nui out? There are other statments in the movie as well that don't show him to be thinking "nice" thoughts but I can't remember them exactly right now. So we have a whole bunch of actions that show he is "bad" and one statement giving him an excuse because he is trying to do good in his own mind and at least one statement that he is doing bad things. I wouldn't say that this makes him a good person. Heres another thing to consider about what Makuta says and how credible he is. Doesn't he tell Takuanuva that if he beats him at Kohlii he can try and open the door? Then when he's beaten does he let him, no, he shows that he lies and trys to stop him again. So he had already been lying before making the statement about Mata Nui's pain, I don't think he stopped at that point. I guess rather than go on with my slightly disjointed thoughts about this, I'll leave you with this. If someone spent two years trying to beat you up and take things from you day after day, then when you've finally had enough and stand up to them and stop them from doing it again they tell you that they were doing it because they thought it was the right thing to do, are you going to believe them? I understand that forgiveness is a good thing, but most people are not going to forgive two years of pain and suffering just because the other person was misunderstood. They are going to class that other person as "bad" or in this case "evil" and leave it at that. So why are we doing anything different here?

If you really read my theory, then you can see that he thought the matoran were evil, and that I took more than a few lines. Also, that obbsesion could lead to corruption. Remember Vader?
Anikan turned evil becuase he wanted to escape from his feelings, he did not mean to be so evil, but the emporer corrupted him.
This is the same with Makuta, he did not mean to be so evil, but his love for his brother corrupted him.
Makuta lied becuase he wanted to protect his brother still, he thought he would win, so that is why he said that.
I never said Makuta was good, what I am trying to say is that he is not evil.

To much of anything is a bad thing. I just hope we get to see Mata-nui sometime.

Makuta is not good and he is definantly evil, why else would he want to infect people. One point people can't argue is that he is jealous, since that is where is past stems from. He was jealous of his brother getting worshipped and betrayed him. This could mean that the makuta was good before. That's what I believe anyway.

QUOTE (taint @ Oct 29 2003, 10:29 PM)

I believe Makuta is lying about protecting his brother. He is dishonest and a lier at a same time. Also to settle if Makuta's evil or good I'll tell you: he is evil, pure evil, and here's what greg says to back up my theorie QUOTE No, Makuta is not good. I know some people think he is, but that's because they taking everything he says in the movie at face value. Even if he isn't lying, you can be sure he is leaving stuff out. As for whether he is alive or dead .. I don't know either. I am not sure what the future plans for Makuta are or aren't beyond MOL. so there you have it, even he says so, so please no more Makuta is good topics. Now this should prove that Makuta's evil. Finally, I would like to tell everyone who has time to read this to put all you think about Makuta being good or bad here. I've seen to many topics about Makuta being good or bad, so put it all here, don't make anymore of those topics please.

Well Greg has told me that Greg will not be a goody goddy good guy but will have LAYERS, so he will have emotion and not be just another menacing laughing evil guy. But Makuta's future isn't known so who knows how he will be or if he is now gone? Besides Greg doesn't write all Bionicle so how he may want to be portrayed could change. He has his own idea's as do many working on Bionicle, and who knows what they all decide on?

Makuta is the pure evil and darkness of Mata-Nui, there is no way he is good, which i find hard to believe anyway!

mukuta is evil gerg said mukuta is the one that put mata-nui in pain so mukuta put him to sleep i dont see how mukuta could be missunderstood.

OTakain be came evil because his mother was killed and in then padma gets killed so he goes evil and goes breserk and kills all the jedi

He's not EVIL, but he's not GOOD either. He's kind of dark grey and misguided.
-BB-

First of all, just because a person thinks they are doing the right thing doesn't mean they are good.
Owners of slaves thought they were good, and even went to church, but the keeping, owning, enslaving of others is an evil act.

Second of all:

evil adj. 1 a) morally bad or wrong; wicked; depraved b) resulting from or based on conduct regarded as immoral 2 causing pain or trouble; harmful; injurious 3 offensive or disgusting 4 threatening or bringing misfortune; unlucky; idsastrous; unfortunate ---adv. in an evil, wicked, or offensive way ---n. 1 anything morally bad or wrong; wickedness; depravity; sin 2 anything that causes harm, pain, misery, disaster, tec. ---SYN. bad

Lastly, trying to defend a being who has proven themselves to be a danger to the populus of a society is like trying to release a dangerous criminal from prison because he is misunderstood.
Whether sane or insane the individual will continue to do harm to those around him. Hitler believed he was doing the right thing, and look what he did with his position of power. Would you defend Hitler in the same way?

QUOTE (~QB~ @ Oct 31 2003, 03:50 PM)

QUOTE (Tokama @ Oct 31 2003, 07:07 PM) QUOTE (~QB~ @ Oct 31 2003, 12:59 PM) QUOTE That is not true. It was a mistake on the mis-communication between the script writers and the StoryKeepers. If it was true, it would mean Makuta works for a higher power, but we can all assume he does indeed work for himself. Lewa says everyone has a duty on Mata-Nui (The island, not the spirit) in MOL. That includes Makuta. If that's not true, there is a lot of miscommunication! -Tokama Nope. It's true. Checkout this quote from Raptordx1's "Makuta: the Personification of Fear" topic. QUOTE (Zokara @ Oct 6 2003, 10:15 PM) I hate to be the only one to punch holes in this theory, Raptor, but I have a few things to say. This is from big Farshtey himself: "I can only comment a little on this, because it is going to be discussed more in future. Basically, Makuta believes Mata Nui to be ill, and that it is his job to keep him essentially comatose. But I can tell you that his reasons for doing so are NOT because he is a noble caregiver, and it is also an open question just who made him sick in the first place (three guesses)." So this heavily implies that Makuta's intentions are more obsessive than good. Greg also said that the "My duty is to the Mask of Shadows" quote was somewhat of a mistake between the story bible and the directors. He said that as of now, Makuta answers to no higher power. ^ See ^ No higher power. QB

Are you Saying ~QB~ that Makuta was under some control even if he is the main bad guy ? also I if no one understood what I meant in my last post that I think Makuta became pure evil after he became angry .

Now guys, let's think. If you had a brother, and you would do anything to protect him, infact, you were so obbsesed that you would protect him EVEN if you are not sure that he has a disease, and then some people, who were the ones REALLY protecting them, thought you were evil, and thought that they were evil, would you protect your brother?

Yes.

Tal, Makuta is not good or caring about Mata Nui. He poisoned his own brother, for crying out loud!
He is not controlled by the Kraahkan + He does not answer to some higher power + He made Mata Nui seriously ill = He did all this of his own free will. He is not good, he is evil.
Those are all facts given by Greg.

-Master of the Rahkshi

Well yeah like I said Makuta isn't the ideal guy! But nor are the Toa in bionicle. Even if everything Makuta said about him and Mata nui was true in MOL he could have tried to find a alternate solution. But lets look at the Toa. They built themselves up with narsissism to feel confident enough to match to "destiny" the matoran claim is their own. Now they regard themselves almost as gods to take on their destiny but how nice to they act around others? Does that make them evil? Flaws are more easily looked back on if its the Protagonist the one we really get into the head of and understand. We know very little about Makuta and rarely know what he will looke like and never get a bit of what he's thinking . The facts on Makuta could change so before we start arguing good or bad lets wait and keep our thoughts seperate. He may be neither. I think of Evil as a abstarct term. I think if anyone is evil its Tahu........

QUOTE (Master of the Rahkshi @ Nov 18 2003, 07:03 PM)

Tal, Makuta is not good or caring about Mata Nui. He poisoned his own brother, for crying out loud! He is not controlled by the Kraahkan + He does not answer to some higher power + He made Mata Nui seriously ill = He did all this of his own free will. He is not good, he is evil. Those are all facts given by Greg. -Master of the Rahkshi

No, they are not.
For cying out loud people! I never freakn' said Makuta was good! I said he is NOT evil, that does not mean he is good.
No one has answered my question either. So, would you? I would.
What you people need to understand is this: Makuta is a god. Gods have different emotions than regular people. We cannot, and never will, be able to comprehend the feelings of Gods, becuase they are another race themselves.
Also, as I said before, you-need-PROOF. You guys are all taking this from some things that speak for themselves, but do you search harder, in-depth? For possible connections and concepts? The majority of you, no.
Now, all we need to do to settle this is for all of you to study my question carefully, and answer it. Yes, or no?

Humans.....

Yeah I agree with that last part, Humans..............


Besides just because we know little of Makuta's past and how he thinks does not mean the reason why is just because he is sheer evil! If he was seen as a protagonist who we could relate to even with those sins we would most liely forgive him for his deed to his brother because we think he does it for the best. And Protagonist means main character not hero............Butch and Sundance were protagonists (who I like more than most good guys) but bad people (sorta )

Tal, you would not like being called a liar. Why call me one?
For the fact that Makuta poisoned Mata Nui:
Look here.
bjj6’s post, second quote, question six.
As for the fact that Makuta is not controlled or infected by the Kraahkan, that was posted by Greg in a topic that is now long buried. I'll root around, see if I can find it again.
And to answer your question, yes, I would, but Makuta was the cause of Mata Nui's suffering, so I highly doubt those were his motives.

-Master of the Rahkshi

Have you ever considered the possibility that makuta was tricked into poisoning mata nui, and to atone for his sins, is guarding him for all time?

Tal: The Last Kian, I'll answer your question. If you felt this way, you would be certifiably insane, I know, I deal with people like this. I pick them up and take them to the hospital where the people in the white jackets give them drugs to keep them from hurting themselves or others.

Now it can be debated endlessly if insane people are evil or not, but I guess I always go back to the question of what were their actions? Almost every serial killer of our time has made the claim that they were insane, but does that excuse what they did? Ted Bundy was most certainly insane, but was he evil? I would say yes!

So, although you say that most people are just using the facts that speak for themselves to prove their points, I say that people who ignore facts to dig deeper are looking for something that helps disprove what is obvious to everyone else. Why bother? If something is, then it is, trying to dig deeper only confuses an otherwise very simple thing.

As for Makuta being tricked, it could be very possible? But at this point does anything point to that having occured? I don't recall anything that has alluded to that occuring in the story so far, but who knows what next year will bring?

I'm still going to stick by my oppinion that Makuta is evil (and very possibly insane!) And that although he has reasons for what he is doing they do not excuse his evil actions or pardon his evil means of getting what he wants.

Now all that being said, I'm glad to see that this topic is still recieving the attention it is. Regaurdless of if you think Makuta is good, bad or something else, at least you are thinking about it and I've seen some good arguments for both sides.

ccso35, I do not question makuta`s sanity(or lack thereof), as it is most definitely true taht his actions are inexcusable.


However, we are trying to theorize on WHY he would do such things.

We now know that the turaga have kept a heavy secret on their shoulders for hundreds of years. For all this time, they let the matoran believe taht they ahd always lived on a peaceful island,w hen in reality they knew that they had come from a once great society which probably had far greater power than the toa.


I think that there is much mroe to makuta than just someone who is evil and greedy. He planned his actions meticulously, and didn`t just randomly go and kill people. He had a goal, as if he were turly insane, he could have easily created an army of rahkshi when he first came to deciamte the olda and all the matoran in a matter of weeks, if not days.

But he didn`t.

This leads me to believe that there is far more to makuta than meets the eye, and while, in the end, his intentions amy be malicious, there must be complex reasons behind them.

This whole thing stinks of Cain and Abel...lets see. Serves no higher power...well, that takes an immediat mark off. Cain killed Abel the first due to jealousy (motive matches Makuta) that Abels' sacrifice pleased their god more. There has been no (evident) pair of sacrifices, but if you look to magicl theory, other forms of sacrifice as an invoction/amplification. Perhapse Makuta sacrificed his brother to endless sleep to gain power. But according to Cain (see Fables and Reflections, the story about Daniel), he kept murdering Abel to keep him from giving away secrets. Abel is obviosly the more benevolent of the brothers, a teacher (ostensibly), that tallies with Mata Nui. Um... That's all for now.