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The Zelda Timeline


Kohaku

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Zelda Timeline

 

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This is Kohaku's theory on the Legend of Zelda timeline. Much of the information seems a bit disorganized but I did that intentionally to seperate things so they could be talked about in terms of placement. Feel free to add on or dispute with your own theories. I do ask that you at least provide something back it up though. If you want me to try to get more proof feel free to ask.

 

We will start with what I believe is the start of the timeline:

 

The Minish Cap – Four Swords – Four Swords Adventures

 

Eiji Aonuma has stated that these games are supposed to be the oldest games in the series, preceding Ocarina of Time.’

 

Minish Cap is accepted as first as it explains the backstory of Vaati. Four Swords is stated to come after with Four Swords Adventures being a sequel which takes place after Four Swords. It also shows the main races of Hyrule and has no mention of the Triforce. Also, Link's Hat.

 

Four Swords Adventures also explains where Ganondorf acquired the Trident weapon which acts as the complete opposite of the Master Sword. The Trident is the ultimate Dark Weapon and a weapon that he would wield for a majority of the series. Ganondorf was also behind the scenes of Vaati’s revival in Four Swords Adventures.

 

Ocarina of Time < (See below for the split)

 

- (Child off of OoT) Majora’s Mask – Twilight Princess – A Link to The Past – Link’s Awakening - Legend of Zelda – Adventure of Link - Oracle of Ages <----> Oracle of Seasons

 

- (Adult off of OoT)- The Wind Waker – Phantom Hourglass – Spirit Tracks

 

 

Twilight Princess’s placement in the timeline has also been confirmed by Aonuma.

 

–When does Twilight Princess take place?

 

Aonuma: In the world of Ocarina of Time, a hundred and something years later.

 

–And the Wind Waker?

 

Aonuma: The Wind Waker is parallel. In Ocarina of Time, Link flew seven years in time, he beat Ganon and went back to being a kid, remember? Twilight Princess takes place in the world of Ocarina of Time, a hundred and something years after the peace returned to kid Link’s time. In the last scene of Ocarina of Time, kids Link and Zelda have a little talk, and as a consequence of that talk, their relationship with Ganon takes a whole new direction. In the middle of this game [Twilight Princess], there's a scene showing Ganon's execution. It was decided that Ganon be executed because he'd do something outrageous if they left him be. That scene takes place several years after Ocarina of Time. Ganon was sent to another world and now he wants to obtain the power...

 

Majora’s Mask does tend to happen in the child timeline; however I believe that it doesn’t happen in the standard Zelda Universe as it is a different dimension, therefore the standard Laws of Hyrule don’t full apply. However it is still connected to Hyrule due to areas where the Triforce does appear. It has been suggested that the Stone Tower Temple was intended to directly blaspheme Din, Nayru, Farore, and their Triforce. Also Skull Kid from Majora’s Mask is the one that you teach Saria’s Song to as well as sell a mask too in Ocarina of Time. I also believe that it is the same Skull Kid that appears in Twilight Princess due to the facts that the horn it uses is similar to Deku Link’s instrument in Majora’s Mask and once again he is playing Saria’s Song.

 

The towns in Adventure of Link are named after the sages in Ocarina of Time; this cements it as a game that comes after Ocarina. With The original Legend of Zelda coming before it, essentially Adventure of Link is a part two for the original game which details why the Triforce of courage was not in the original.

 

The resting place of the Master Sword in A Link to the Past is accounted for in Twilight Princess, and Twilight Princess appears to bridge Ocarina of Time and A Link to the Past's Master Sword locations.

 

Link to the Past also has a back story referring to the Imprisoning War. The Imprisoning War also known as the Seal War was a conflict that ensued after Ganondorf entered the Sacred Realm and laid claim to the Triforce, becoming Ganon. Ganondorf's seizure of the Triforce tainted the Golden Land, transforming it into the Dark World and Ganondorf himself into the beast named Ganon. He launched an invasion against Hyrule with his new army of monsters, made up of people from Hyrule that came seeking the Golden Power for themselves. This invasion was repelled by the Knights of Hyrule, who gave their lives almost to the last to protect the Seven Sages as they cast a seal on the Dark World, trapping Ganon and his army inside and restoring peace to Hyrule.

 

The problem this causes in placement is that it was stated that there was no Hero to wield the Master Sword. Even though there are a few games which have events that mirror it. However, I personally believe that it isn’t featured in a game or the Legends of it have changed as they were passed from generation to generation. It is hard to say where it fits in put personally I would say the most likely amount of time would be AFTER Ocarina ends and Link is transported to Termina in Majora’s Mask. At the end of Ocarina of Time (Child) Link and Zelda make sure Ganondorf is caught. However he nearly escapes imprisonment and it is possible that he managed to throw Hyrule into a war before being imprisoned. The reason there was no Hero worth of wielding the Master sword was because Link was no longer in the dimension and therefore they were unable to get Link to help them. This is just my theory.

 

Oracle of Ages <----> Oracle of Seasons

 

These two games are interchangeable,however they also relate to Ocarina of Time in the form of Twinrova beings who were trying to resurrect Ganon. They in fact served as the surrogate mother for Ganondorf in Ocarina of Time. In the Oracle games they attempted to revive Ganon and sacrificed themselves to do so. This implys that the Oracle games would happen at some point after Ocarina of Time and this would be after Ganon has been killed. The best place for it then is after Adventure of Link where Ganon is dead and they would want to revive him.

 

Also of note Wind Waker takes place about one thousand years after Ocarina of Time. Phantom Hourglass takes place no more than about a year after Wind Waker. Spirit Tracks takes place about 100 years after Phantom Hourglass. I haven't finished Spirit Tracks yet so it could still completely blow my theory out of the water.

 

This brings the timeline at least in my mind to look something like this:

The Minish Cap – Four Swords – Four Swords Adventures - Ocarina of Time < (Split occurs, see below)

 

- (Child off of OoT) Majora’s Mask – Twilight Princess – A Link to The Past – Link’s Awakening - Legend of Zelda – Adventure of Link - Oracle of Ages <----> Oracle of Seasons

 

- (Adult off of OoT)- The Wind Waker – Phantom Hourglass – Spirit Tracks

 

And there you have it!

 

Comments, criticism, etc. is welcome.

 

Kohaku

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Only thing I disagree with you about is the placement of the FS saga.

 

FSA can't go before Ocarina of Time because of Ganondorf. In Ocarina of Time, Ganondorf is still part of the Gerudo tribe, but in FSA, it is stated that he was recently expelled from the Gerudos for exploring the Desert Pyramid and became a desert nomad. He also uses the Trident to become Ganon, and is sealed into the Four Sword in this form. This is inconsistent with OoT's Ganondorf. It also raises the question of what happened to the Four Sword after FSA.

 

I would probably place the FS saga after Spirit Tracks on the Adult Timeline, as both the FSA and Spirit Tracks feature Force Gems as major elements. Ganondorf is also absent from all games except FSA, as he was killed in WW. Due to FSA Ganondorf's different backstory, I would say he is a different Ganondorf to the one from OoT.

 

Also, a few notes on some of your reasons for placement:

-Twinrova never die in the Child Timeline, as they die when Adult Link defeats them in the Spirit Temple. The part of OoT that takes place when Link is an adult never happens in the Child Timeline, so they do not need to be revived.

-The towns in AoL being named after the sages is irrelevant AoL is on the Child Timeline, as the sages were never awakened in the Child Timeline.

 

So my timeline would be:

/(TWW-PH)-(ST)-(TMC)-(FS-FSA)

(OoT

\MM)-(TP)-(ALttP-LA)-(LoZ-AoL)-(OoA-OoS)

brackets indicate direct sequels (same Link, etc.) and top split is Adult Timeline, bottom is Child.

 

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Only thing I disagree with you about is the placement of the FS saga.

 

FSA can't go before Ocarina of Time because of Ganondorf. In Ocarina of Time, Ganondorf is still part of the Gerudo tribe, but in FSA, it is stated that he was recently expelled from the Gerudos for exploring the Desert Pyramid and became a desert nomad. He also uses the Trident to become Ganon, and is sealed into the Four Sword in this form. This is inconsistent with OoT's Ganondorf. It also raises the question of what happened to the Four Sword after FSA.

 

I would probably place the FS saga after Spirit Tracks on the Adult Timeline, as both the FSA and Spirit Tracks feature Force Gems as major elements. Ganondorf is also absent from all games except FSA, as he was killed in WW. Due to FSA Ganondorf's different backstory, I would say he is a different Ganondorf to the one from OoT.

One of the major theories is that the Four Sword is the Master Sword. However, while he was expelled from the Gerudo tribe it can still work. The very last sentence works for you and against you. They could be a different incarnations of Ganondorf which does make sense. We don't know what the passage of time is so there may very well be an untold story between the two. If The Minish Cap/Four Swords/Four Swords Adventures does take place after Spirit Tracks what happened to the ocean? A huge ocean doesn't just vanish. Also it has been confirmed that Ganondorf dies in Wind Waker, sealed by the Master Sword sticking out of his forehead. How would he have orchestrated the revival of Vaati while being encased in stone at the bottom of the sea?

 

Also, a few notes on some of your reasons for placement:

-Twinrova never die in the Child Timeline, as they die when Adult Link defeats them in the Spirit Temple. The part of OoT that takes place when Link is an adult never happens in the Child Timeline, so they do not need to be revived.

Good catch, thanks, I missed that after staring at this stuff all day.

 

-The towns in AoL being named after the sages is irrelevant AoL is on the Child Timeline, as the sages were never awakened in the Child Timeline.

They are still fairly significant sages who did try to put Ganondorf to death in the child timeline. They are still relevant.

 

So my timeline would be:

/(TWW-PH)-(ST)-(TMC)-(FS-FSA)

(OoT

\MM)-(TP)-(ALttP-LA)-(LoZ-AoL)-(OoA-OoS)

brackets indicate direct sequels (same Link, etc.) and top split is Adult Timeline, bottom is Child.

See the above statements for my disagreements.

 

Kohaku

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FSA Hyrule is surrounded by water. While the ocean isn't shown in FS or TMC, that doesn't mean it past the borders of the game. Spirit Tracks only shows the ocean in the south.

 

I agree that different incarnations of Ganondorf would make the most sense here.

 

There's evidence that supports multiple placements of the FS Saga, the main ones being our two preferred placements and another, which is after ST and before ALttP on the adult timeline. It's impossible to prove it one way or another.

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FSA Hyrule is surrounded by water. While the ocean isn't shown in FS or TMC, that doesn't mean it past the borders of the game. Spirit Tracks only shows the ocean in the south.

 

I agree that different incarnations of Ganondorf would make the most sense here.

 

There's evidence that supports multiple placements of the FS Saga, the main ones being our two preferred placements and another, which is after ST and before ALttP on the adult timeline. It's impossible to prove it one way or another.

True, but it is hard to say, what lies beyond that water. We have never seen a true map of the entire Zelda Planet so there are multiple ways it can be interpreted.

 

We have more than one Link and more than one Zelda, so more than one Ganondorf does also make sense.

 

Let us agree to disagree then? We really can't say for sure so it is speculation. I prefer my interpretation while you prefer yours. We can both only hope Nintendo shows us the true time line at some point.

 

Kohaku

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Yeah, I agree.

 

Nintendo's been doing a good job of connecting games together recently. Spirit Tracks has almost answered more questions than it creates.

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