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Good Music


Spoony Bard

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So I listen to Rock 102, which is a classic rock station, and I was thinking to myself "why don't bands sound this good anymore?"

 

Like seriously, music has died.

 

-Omi

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Yes, music has died. If we go back to Beethoven's time, his music was so complex, so hard, so much better than today's music. And it took him like...years to write symphony, and all of it was so original and so different than all the other stuff he did. And for today's music, it takes them a couple days to write a song, and they all sound the same.

 

And don't even get me started about the length of music. I swear, we must all have A.D.D. Back then you would listen 45-60 minutes of good music, but today we can hardly make it through 4 minutes.

 

I know this may not be what you meant, but it should've been.

 

 

SZ

 

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*snickers so hard* Oh, true Omi, this is so true.

 

That's why we audiophiles own a music archive to listen from! :lol: Grief, music had started deteriorating eons ago, but so few realise it!

 

-<dd>

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Yes, music has died. If we go back to Beethoven's time, his music was so complex, so hard, so much better than today's music. And it took him like...years to write symphony, and all of it was so original and so different than all the other stuff he did. And for today's music, it takes them a couple days to write a song, and they all sound the same.

 

And don't even get me started about the length of music. I swear, we must all have A.D.D. Back then you would listen 45-60 minutes of good music, but today we can hardly make it through 4 minutes.

 

I know this may not be what you meant, but it should've been.

Dang it, go to the favorite music topic. I need your help there! :P

 

While I prefer Bach to Beethoven, I concur with all of your points. While brevity can be a virtue (and saying what you want to say in a concise manner is very important -- pointless musical rambling gets really old really fast -- take Frank Ticheli's Fortress, for example), the problem is that many (okay, most) popular songs today are not only short, but also have a lot of the same sections repeat anyway. So there's not much original material. Add the fact that they use only one or two chord progressions anyway, and you can really see the difference.

 

It's like that book I saw which told you the 17 chord progressions that will "make your music the best." Does that show just how low the music business (AND music isn't supposed to be a business, it's an art!!!!!) has sunk or what? It's not about originality, it's about making money with cheaply written songs that people enjoy even though they all sound the same.

 

(And those 4 minutes usually aren't even half-filled with good music. Sure, some parts of the song are good, but other parts are awful -- there's much less attention to musical economy.)

 

Omi, we may not agree on a lot of stuff, but at least we agree on classic rock. It rules. So keep listening to it. :P At least classic rock artists had more spirit, more individuality, and more... musicality.

 

There are about five styles of "artists" that I can distinguish nowadays:

 

1) Those R&B singers who sing all these tight minor chords, usually female.

2) Female singers who have voices with which they make all sorts of annoying inflections and ornamentations (bad-sounding ones). Yes, they are the ones who always have to rewrite the Star-Spangled Banner when singing it at a baseball game. We can't just sing it the plain old fashioned way anymore.

3) ALL male country singers (not saying they're bad, but man do they all sound the same!)

4) ALL male alternative rock/punk rock/etc. artists (again, not necessarily bad, but they all strive for the same voice).

5) Rappers. They. All. Sound. The. Same. (And there's barely any music involved anyway -- just a strong beat, and some kind of inappropriate message.)

 

And I can't really tell anything more about a random song that I hear. If people had more individuality, you could actually tell them apart by their styles... but no.

 

Yes, Omi, you invited this rant. :P

 

But what I love most is that so many people who "love music" know virtually no music theory. It makes intelligent debate on the subject nearly impossible.

 

- Onuki

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I'm going to have to agree with Onuki here, people ask why I like Bach and the Beatles, but not people on American Idol (Which has had it's good moments...) The answer? The music is just better.

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Actually there is some truly great music today--unfortunately you'll never hear it on the radio. Howard Shore, John Williams, Klaus Badelt, and Danny Elfman are brilliant orchestral artists. And of course, the Trans-Siberian Orchestra is modern. :D

 

However, I agree that the stuff of today on the radio is generally horrid. Hence, I listen to the local classic rock stations that only play the cream of the crop from the sixties and seventies (and sometimes eighties). You can't beat the likes of Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Queen, Van Halen, The Who, et cetera.

 

And of course, the classical realm is tough to top also. Beethoven and Tchaikovsky were gods.

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Guest Phyoohrii: Dark Hunter Hunter

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I agree full heartedly, Omi. It's just not the same anymore at all...

*joins -Windrider-* :P Uhn tiss uhn tiss...

 

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