The Editor

A shapeshifter, after fighting heroes and generally being nasty, shows that she does indeed have some good in her and the capacity to be a hero. Ish. Krahka or comics!Mystique in her own series?

When you realise your wallet is empty of cash because you spent it all on G2 sets.

There's been enough griping over plot points that I feel I have no contributions to make in that area - I just want to agree that I am now annoyed at how few element-wielding scenes actually appeared over the original trilogy (can't say a thing about TLR because oop I still haven't watched it). Also, the masks. I thought most of them were pretty ugly, and that they were hardly faithful to the sets sometimes. I understand they needed them to look a little more facelike, yes, but did they have to make Gali/Nokama/Matau/Turaga Lhikan/Turaga Dume/Makuta look like that?

Does that mean he made all those burial masks seen on the skull villains? I mean, that's my theory. Heck, he might have even created the Skull Spiders (assuming that they're not just indigenous wildlife). Do we know for sure that the Skull Villain masks represent burial masks? I mean, it's a plausible theory, but I don't remember ever getting anything that really confirmed it. BS01 doesn't say anything, and the animations are silent on it. Anything in the books support it? I think it's a really cool theory; it makes the Okotoans seem like a really human culture. And the idea that Makuta made creepy masks is pretty awesome. If he made the skull spiders, though, that'd be a nice callback to his Rahi-making origins in G1.

Love the idea you put forth, just... what's "Rapture"?

I like this idea best, I mean he is literally called "the mask hoarder" by lego. Maybe the hoard of masks will prove to be a major plot point in a future arc? :^)

Exactly. Not sure about the Velika bit. But it's true we don't know who within the Great Beings made the MoC... Perhaps Velika made it ahead of time, having already planned out his tampering mission, and the mask was his backup plan. Interesting thought. Oh. From reading BS01, I thought the GBs gave Artakha the mask after watching him and Karzahni slug it out. But the wording there allows for what you guys said too, so... my bad :^P I guess I back this theory now.

I don't know, the comics had more set-accurate depictions of them. Nokama's and Gali's masks changed quite a bit between their set and movie appearances, in my opinion. But I don't wanna complain about that - it's kind of a minor point. *sighs* So, should I not watch The Legend? Or is it worth my time?

Yes, I HATE IT. Do I win any irony points?

I appreciate the recognition, but you might be surprised to hear I actually disagree with this. At least, "a fact you need to accept" is... how to put it? It can come across the wrong way, you know? I believe you simply mean recognize that it is canon, but I don't think the critics of perceived mistakes are usually focusing on that. ... Okay, whoops. Re-reading that shows me how it might look a little weird. Also, ice isn't a conductor of electricity, last I checked, and I just did some googling to make sure I'm right. That's impure water you're thinking of. And I totally agree with your second point - when I first read it, I thought the physics checked out. Anyway, I guess it's odd to nitpick about proper science when we're talking about a saga based around the activities of superpowered biomechanical beings inside a giant space robot. That has an island for a face.

Never said he KNEW about it. I agree with everything here, but... This got me thinking. Why would the GBs give a failsafe to somebody who could potentially gain sentience and prevent you from using the failsafe? I mean, think about it. Let's say the inhabitants of the MU gained sentience - oh wait, they did. Artakha, wearing the mask that could end all that, could potentially be anywhere other than where you left him. He gained sentience, and that means he could just waltz off to another place in the MU, and you'd have to hunt him down to get him and break it. Basically, it'd be harder to get to the failsafe and kill all your drones' personalities. If it really was a failsafe, I'd say the most logical thing to do would be to plonk it somewhere else on the robot that nobody else can get to, so it's always accessible to you (the GB) even in the event that all those nanobots you made gained independent thought and all. I considered that. In a later post, I suggested that it might work like the Ignika's countdown. For example, we saw the Ignika start to turn silver and later to have touches of black, meaning the "Universal danger threat" was at X%. The MoC could be the same. If the MU inhabitants stray too close to chaos (90-100%), the Mask would activate the failsafe, resetting everyone to the factory settings. Again, The GBs would have put that in as a precaution. The Ignika doesn't need someone to activate the countdown, so why would the MoC? We've seen that breaking the Ignika would have the same result as its countdown, so if there is a failsafe function to the MoC, it could work the same way (activates at a point, or is broken). The point of giving it to Artakha would be in that he'd keep it safe and put it to use. Because that kind of power is extremely useful, sapient or not, he'd understand that. And he was stationed on that one island, much like the Ignika was kept in a single portion of land. Ah, sorry I didn't notice the initial part. That makes more sense. But not giving it to Artakha. That makes sense if we assume Artakha remains... well, the Artakha we know, when the glitch affecting the MU inhabitants hits the Mata Nui robot's systems. The thing is, a glitch that'd make everyone gain sapience wouldn't necessarily make Artakha gain a well-adjusted personality. What if he developed one resembling Vezon's? I'm pretty sure the GBs would've realised that putting the failsafe on a part of the robot that could glitch out like the other components the failsafe is supposed to protect. ... Also, do we really want to bother him with this?

... I don't really think this discussion is going anywhere, by the way. Everyone's just hurling the same points back and forth right now. Can we all just, like, take a collective step back from our computers and chill? I mean, this is a minor point, and you don't really need to argue about it. I think most of the points listed for how the mask could be used in a practical situation by someone who's dying are valid. At the same time, it is pretty valid to say that there are situations where a mask that protects you from a killing blow (say a mask of shielding or something) could be more useful. Additionally, it is true to say that sometimes, the person or thing that killed you is still going to be around - and heck, that does render your use of the mask useless most of the time, because they might be able to kill you again. But there are other scenarios where it may be useful, like in the case of poisoning or illness. Basically, we've pointed out that the mask is useful in certain situations. That pretty much applies to any other mask. Is the mask of water breathing useless? Only if you're going to battle in areas that are landlocked and have no bodies of water around. Is the mask of night vision useless? Only if you're in an area that's well-lit 24/7. Is the mask of stealth useless? Only if you're fighting Lariska. There are pros and cons for many (if not all) masks, and that includes usefulness in certain scenarios. The answer to the main question of this thread is basically: No. And that's because no mask is useless. They only have scenarios in which they are effective and ineffective, and it's been seen multiple times in this thread that there are scenarios where the use of this mask is viable.

I'm guessing they're the kind of people who say that the Star Wars EU means nothing to anyone now...

Never said he KNEW about it. I agree with everything here, but... This got me thinking. Why would the GBs give a failsafe to somebody who could potentially gain sentience and prevent you from using the failsafe? I mean, think about it. Let's say the inhabitants of the MU gained sentience - oh wait, they did. Artakha, wearing the mask that could end all that, could potentially be anywhere other than where you left him. He gained sentience, and that means he could just waltz off to another place in the MU, and you'd have to hunt him down to get him and break it. Basically, it'd be harder to get to the failsafe and kill all your drones' personalities. If it really was a failsafe, I'd say the most logical thing to do would be to plonk it somewhere else on the robot that nobody else can get to, so it's always accessible to you (the GB) even in the event that all those nanobots you made gained independent thought and all.

Basically it for me, combined with the depth of the story.