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Which is more uncommon/harder to find? Voporak or Takutanuva? I know both sets can be created using various Titans of 2003/2005 but I would like to know the rarity of the special edition 3 in 1 or 2 in one versions. Thanks
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I wanted to start a series of threads where we discuss who we think would win between Bionicle characters and characters from other verses, not which ones you WANT to win, but who you think would win. To keep the thread interesting give not only who you think would win, but why they would, how the fight might go down, and what trouble the other opponent might give them. Also I wanted each thread to be it's own match-up (Similar to comic vine.) So please keep it at the two characters introduced on the thread please. (I also prefer the characters to be comparable, so please avoid making match-ups where one is an obvious stomp, I prefer an interesting discussion, not a spite thread/worship thread of your favorite characters.) Now in corner one we have Bionicle's very own Voporak: In the other corner is a guest from a light novel series with various Manga and Anime spin-offs known as A Certain Magical Index or To Aru Majutsu No Index as it's Japanese name....Accelerator: For those that don't know the combatants capabilities I'll link to their wiki's and give a brief explanation of each. Voporak: http://biosector01.com/wiki/index.php/Voporak Accelerator: http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Accelerator What they both have in common is a short of Ultimate Defense which has properties outside of convention durability and can defeat many foes normally unbeatable due to the hax nature of their powers. Voporak was created by the Brotherhood of Makuta to seek out the Mask of Time, should it be created so he could bring it to their leader Teridax. This was done with a combination of Energized Protodermis, various mutagens, and Roodaka's Mutation spinners to transform of member of Sidorak's species. As such he can sense changes in the flow of time, (Like the ones created if the Vahi is used.) At one point he betrays the Brotherhood to work for the Dark Hunters where he appears extremely loyal to them. Voporak main technique a temporal field that any object that comes near him Ages rapidly. (Basically increase the entropy in the system at a rapid rate then the normal passage of time.) A stone will turn to dust from many "years" of erosion, A laser will fade away, etc. The closer one gets to his body the more drastic the effect. (Physical contact being particularly dangerous.) He also can fire spinners that if they hit their target causes their perception of time to slow and fall behind a few seconds. (Basically causing them to mentally "lag".) His Feats include along with the Shadowed One destroying Teridax's wings and putting him in Mortal Danger. (One of the few things Teridax had to fight seriously without holding back.) He was only defeated when Teridax created a Vacuum that suffocated him and caused him to pass out. (While at the same time Teridax threw The Shadowed One into him and caused him to Age 3,000 years.) At one point He eventually got the mask of Time. (Which was the purpose of his creation.) Accelerator is one of the student's of Accademy cities Esper Development Program, the aim is to used a series of drugs, procedures, Mental Exercises, and conditioning to create human beings with the ability to achieve a person reality. (Basically each esper is a low level reality warper that can causes Macro-universe effects by controlling Micro-universe Quantum interactions, each esper can only do so to a very limited field. (One esper can control Electromagnetism for example, another can alter an object's Byouncy, another Teleport via 11th dimension space, etc) These espers were ranked from 0 to 5. level 0's hold little to no power to be of practical use. While the level 5's are at least a one man army. There are only seven level 5's at the top of the list is Accelerator, known as the One-Way Road and later The One Who Wields the Power of God. Accelerator's ability it to control the Vector's of any object he comes in contact with. (A Vector in Mathematics is a representation of Euclidean space that represents a Quantity with Direction and Magnitude.) This allows him once he comes in contact to have a sort of precision based Telekinesis and change the value of an objects Vector as long as he can calculate and comprehend it in both a Mathematical and Spatial way. (Espers in the series have super computer intelligence and it's a requirement to use their powers, an electricity based esper needs to for example know about the science of electricity, more powerful espers are ones whose intelligence has increased to the point of a better understanding of their powers.) What makes Accelerator so Dangerous his a subconscious "Ultimate Defense" where he established a filter that any object that makes contact with his skin if it has the potential to harm him. (Such as a certain degree of pressure, temperature, electric charge, radiation level's, etc.) Is automatically reversed in the opposite direction. (Such as gunfire, explosives, and yes even lasers.) This Ultimate Defense is based on a simple subconscious calculations that he can change at any time like Anti-Virus Software so he can reflect an object even if he doesn't consciously react or is even aware it exists. (Such as sniper fire.) It's so effective that he reflects dangerous Ultra violent rays from the Sun which is the cause of his pale skin and albino appearance. (Based on the author's faulty understanding of how hormones work.) He can do this while asleep. He also can use his powers offensively, such as moving a high speed, lifting heavy objects through a type of tactile telekinesis, controlling air currents, using the earth's kinetic energy to create earthquakes, compressing the wind to make plasma, and even controlling the Motion of objects in the human body. (Such as blood flow, and Bio-electricity.) His weakness is like Voporak he can die of suffocation is left in a vacuum. (He cannot create objects, just manipulate existing ones.) In addition his power his based off his ability to cognitively process vast amounts of data and calculations per second, once when reprogramming someone brain. (Said person's brain is a super computer that controls a network of clones.) He was unable to use his ultimate defense as all his metal faculties where needed for the task of manipulated the Bio-electricity in more complex ways. The result is him being shot, and obtaining brain damage in the areas of his brain that process Mathematics. After this he needed to be connected to an external network known as "The Sisters" (Once he was involved in an experiment that involved him murdering them, before being stopped by the main protagonist.) to be able to use his calculations, the collar runs on a battery, when in "civilian mode" he has just enough brain power to function in society, with a flip of the switch he goes to "esper" setting which allows him the full processing power of the Misaka network, with his ultimate defense and offensive capabilities. The downside is his battery only last 30 minutes before he not only loses his powers but is forced in a mental coma until his battery is recharged or replaced. When on his last leg he has too other options he can "awaken" where he gains wings made of dark matter which do the calculations for him. (Basically a super transformation.) Where he no longer needs the Misaka network while in this form. His calculated power is immensely increased by described as almost "infinite." The Dark Matter wings themselves can disintegrate matter on contact and he can spawn hundreds of them. He is described as possessing the power of an angel at this stage and being able to overwhelm a saint. (Basically saints are people that have magic power where their bodies resemble that of Christs and this can tap a portion of the power of God to enhance their physical bodies and magical prowess, the average saint is capable of moving at Mach 20, destroying Mountains in a single sword fight, amongst other abilities depending on the saint.) This is his "berserk state" and is only active when Accelerator is on his last leg and desperate.) He later gains another winged form with white wings(Still Made of Dark Matter) And a Halo. This form is only active when Accelerator has a moral revelation and he first learns it when he discards his ideals of Good and Evil and thinks only to protect those closest to him. At this point he gains the ability to comprehend Imaginary Vectors, and is described as starting to approach in power Archangel Gabriel (Who is powerful enough to control the motion of planets in the Solar System, control the stars in the sky, And charge up an attack that when fully charged (Takes 30 minutes.) Can turn at least half the earth to ash. It's weaker attacks are Wings made of Ice fused with Telesma (Angel Mana) That can Crush a mountain with ease. There is no defined time limit to either Angel Form though he can only use them for a temporary time. In addition in order for him to reflect or control an object he must comprehend how it works, (When fighting the #2 ranked level 5 who could create Dark Matter with "Strange laws of physics that does not exist in this universe" he was able to breach Accelerator's reflection until Accel "learned" the new laws of physics. He has other weaknesses as well however I'll let you read the link and do your own research. So who wins? Why do they win? How does this fight go down? What troubles does the winner have to overcome?
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I was looking through old threads, and saw a topic I wanted to give my thoughts on but was unable to do so due to it's age and the rules regarding reviving a thread so I decided to give my thoughts on the topic here: You can see the offending thread here: http://www.bzpower.com/board/topic/12862-which-powers-can-affect-voporak/?hl=voporak The reason I make this thread is I believe there are some misconceptions on the nature of Voporak's ability based on the contents of thread, thus I seek to rectify these misconceptions. First thing we must do is establish what Voporak's Powers are, Now obviously his power has something to do with Time, as he can create a temporal field and sense changes in the flow of time. (Due to the Kanohi Vah.) However that leads to an important question. Just what did the staff mean by the word "Time." I believe this is where the misunderstandings arise. So what is time, well according to the Scientific community. (Some are split on what exactly this means but most are in general agreement.) "time" doesn't actually exist, what we call time is simply out observations of objects moving through Space relative to a certain position. And that "time" is simply one or more dimensions of space. (In truth Space and Time are one and the same.) This is understanding time in the framework of General Relativity. However I believe that is not what the Bionicle verse means when they are using "time" in the context of The Mask of Time, and most instances of the word and concept as the whole in the verse. I believe they actually mean time in a more anthropomorphic, ancient, almost mythological understanding. (Which makes sense given the series undertones which I'll go into more latter.) Time in this sense refers to the "Arrow of Time" or how he distinguish the flow of time and the past from the future. What is this difference. The difference lies in the Laws of Thermodynamics particularly the Second Law. This law states that Matter and Energy in a closed system has a tendency to go from a Low Entropy state to a High Entropy state in an attempt to reach thermal equilibrium. (It's why Heat "flows" into Colder areas until both are a uniform temperature unless maintained and isolated from "outside the closed system" an example would be the earth being supplied energy from the sun, without this constant intake of energy, energy on earth would eventually even out and grow stagnant into a High Entropy state.) If you think about it this makes sense in the context of the Bionicle Lore. The three most powerful mask in the Mataron Universe are Creation, Life, and Time. (As in these three forces are the most important and without them the universe would fall apart.) If you think about it all three of them are the three principles most important in understanding closed systems. (The Great Spirit Robot is in essence a self-sustaining closed system, as it was created by the great beings it makes sense they would want to emphasize the rules at work in complex organized systems.) Creation - The Act of putting into order a functioning object in the first place, Life - The Changes and Staving off of entropy to make the system function and perpetuate(Even if in this sense it's in a non biological reproductive way it could be seen as the whole of the Mataron universe as a giant organism and it's repair and maintenance and adapting is the "Life", and Time - The tendency that all things will eventually wear and break down without repair and is in fact inclined to do so. (For example a puzzle(Or a Lego creation.) Will not magically form from individual pieces, however it takes very little effort for them to brake apart and lose their organized form. (Indeed to actually put the pieces together in any complex or meaningful way requires outside effort where it no longer becomes a closed system.) In other words, Voporak does not simply "Speed an objects motion up" or "Fast Forward" otherwise as many people in the other thread pointed out A laser, Gravitational, or Magnetic Wave attack would simply hit him faster not disperse, in same way he should even be able to destroy physical structures, like boulders or weapons since if his power works like General Relativity then it would just make the rocks reach him more quickly. In addition many people in the comments (correctly) state that lasers and Gravity and EM waves don't lose power with time but with distance and the waves hitting objects and other waves per Netwon's Laws and they are right when talking from a standpoint of general relativity. However Voporak cannot create particles to simulate weathering and erosion. (Otherwise his method of defeat by Teridax should have been a non-issue if he could create things out of thin air, but he was unable to since "no amount of time passed would create air where there is none." Thus we are left with the only logical way his power makes any sense is if what the Bionicle verse calls "time" is simply the effects of the "arrow of time." Or making an object go from a Low entropy state to a High One, Turn Order into Chaos. Speed up the Law of Thermodynamics to get closer to Thermal Equilibrium where the energy is stagnant and dissipated and unable to pose a threat to Voporak. Now for some other claims raised by the previous thread comments. One is that Magnetism and Gravity should have worked due to Teridax using Telepathy to dodge Voporak, and reasoning that he must be unable to effect wave attacks since he is unable to dissipate telepathy. Well my answer is that Voporak did not know Makuta was reading his mind and even if he did could not see the telepathic waves or see any signs or tells that Makuta was using them. This makes sense if we assume Voporak can choose what object he "ages" in his field. Seeing has he doesn't turn the ground to dust and fall through it where ever he goes and doesn't deaden all sound and can hear orders from The Shadowed One, this seems a safe assumption. Which means he must identify an object before he can chose to "Age" it. If he noticed his body being binded by Gravity or Magnetism no doubt he would quickly disperse and weaken the waves. As for powers like Anger, or Fear, in the comics and Mask of Life film whenever the Rakshi use their powers they point with their staffs and send an energy projectile. Since the Rakshi's power's come from the Makuta is reasonable to assume Teridax gives a tell that can be read so it's possible to evade or defend against if one has the right tools. Another thing to consider is using a Vacuum to defeat Voporak is a rather indirect way for Teridax to defeat him, since Teridax has 42 Rakshi powers in addition to his strength, shadow hand, and intellect. It's reasonable to assume that powers such as anger, fear, magnetism, gravity, etc would have been unable to effect him otherwise Teridax would have used those, at the very least he was unable to come up with a creative way to use them that might bypass the time filter while in the heat of battle with both Voporak and The Shadowed One. (Seeing how Teridax was injured, lost his wings, and used such an unusual tactic we can assume this is one of the few times Teridax fought seriously and did not hold back as Both Opponents at least together could give him a run for his money and needed to take out the person that could track the Mask of Time which HE NEEDED, at least temporarily.) Thus we can assume based off the context of Voporak's feats and ability description, the philosophy of Bionicle, and Teridax's actions that Voporak's powers are more based on speeding up the Second Law of Thermodynamics and increasing entropy then time powers in the sense of Time Travel, General Relativity, or Alternate Time Lines. As for attacks that can beat him, perhaps anything either immune to the effects of entropy or something with more energy then Voporak can dissipate at a safe rate, perhaps someone immune to entropy or has control over their physical and molecular structure. Similar types of reality warping hax like probability manipulation. If you enjoyed the read check out my first Vs Arena thread where I pit Voporak Against another character with a very Hax like physics bending Ultimate defense Accelerator: http://www.bzpower.com/board/topic/22202-vs-arena-thread-1-voporak-vs-accelerator/ If you'd like to read more on entropy and the concept of the "Arrow of Time" I'd recommend Sean Carrol's book "From Here to Eternity" he uses cleat allegories and examples so even if your not good with the Mathematics of it, (They aren't necesarily to understand the broad ideas.) you can get something out of it.- 2 replies
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Anyone can build a Toa. Or a Makuta. Or a Rahkshi, or whatever Rahi you can imagine. But how many Voporak MOCs do you see out there? http://i.imgur.com/8gfXmVY.jpg I wanted to tap into his origin story with this design. Voporak started off as a regular red Steltian like Sidorak, but, through a series of experiments involving Makuta viruses and Mutation Rhotuka, was transformed into a fearsome beast with time-based powers. So with that in mind, I gave him a face more akin to Sidorak. The general idea was to give relevance to an obscure character, instead of regurgitating another revamp of a more popular character. The weapons were tough. Voporak had some weird spinning claw things sticking out of his elbows, how could I make that work? First, no spin function. Second, arm support. Third, attaching them to his elbows as a pair of support arms that swivel at the elbow. And bam, some not-so-ridiculous Voporak weapons. The legs are a total mess, I know. Instead of giving him an extra set of small arms, I just slapped a launcher into his abdomen in place of a Rhotuka. Gallery over here, though there's not much there right now: http://imgur.com/a/Vz2ut
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What happened to the Ignika and Vahi? The Ignika now harbours Mata Nui's spirt and went where exactly? Into hiding? What would it wait for? Could it stop Velika? Why does Mata Nui want to sleep again, he was asleep for 1000 years?! What happened to the Vahi? Where is Vopoark? What does he want to do with the mask of time? Could he be the missing link? Could he complete the Vahi? Why did he not go to the Dark Hunters with it? What is he going to do? We will probably never know the answers. -
So far, we've only seen one power capable of actually harming (and defeating) Voporak: Vacuum. It was used by Makuta in Time Trap. Since speeding up time, as Voporak does, cannot create air where there is none, this power can neutralize him. But is it the only one? For instance, I was thinking about mental powers. In Time Trap, Makuta, when battling Voporak, uses his Mind-Reading power to predict his moves, which suggests that Voporak is vulnerable to that kind of thing. However, despite being extremely skilled with mental powers (as we've seen many times), Makuta never used them to actually attack his opponent. Does this mean that a mental attack wouldn't work? If so, why (since it is possible to read his mind)? Perhaps, I thought, actually attacking mentally means directing psionic energy at Voporak and his temporal shield would disperse it. What do you think? Another power I was wondering about is gravity. Voporak is affected by ordinary gravity, otherwise he wouldn't be able to stick to the ground. If so, variating it should still affect him. Again, what do you think? Can you also think about any other power which might affect him?
