Who Is (And Isn't) The Great Being?

[Harvali]

I have a guess that I don't think I've seen yet (certainly not in this topic, at least). I thought that Kazi might be the Great Being...sure, one might argue that Velika might be a better candidate, but both have their pros and cons. Anyways, here are my reasons: - He has a personality similar to that of a nervous Great Being, based on what we've heard about them. Obviously, he is very sarcastic and pessimistic: he's cold even for a Ko-Matoran. He hates it when he has to solve riddles or anything like that. - He has a motive. He was sent to Karzahni because he didn't work too hard - maybe he was observing, instead. Then, he was reassembled into a weaker form, and shipped off like he was a failure by one of his own nanotech workers to a barren realm, and was then shot out of the Matoran Universe, meaning that he couldn't observe nearly as much as before. Sure, Karzahni is dead now, but I'm assuming that both The Powers That Be and The Yesterday Quest are taking place at the exact same time, so Kazi wouldn't know...or maybe the serials are connected somehow. - He kept a journal. He has records of what has been going on around him essentially since the Great Cataclysm, which would make sense based on the last point: the amount that he can observe has been severely diminished, so he might as well try to learn as much as he can about what is happening in this new locale to compensate, and as far as we know, he was the only Voya Nui Matoran to keep records like this. This is a problem for the Velika theory, as if I recall correctly, the Voya Nui Matoran didn't remember anything before the Great Cataclysm (I know that this is the case with the Mahri Nui Matoran with regards to their village's submersion, not 100% sure about the Voya Nui Matoran though), and, like I said above, as far as we know, Velika would not have had any way to remember the events right after the Cataclysm, while Kazi did. - He did doubt (and rightly so) the Piraka's Toa-status (and one of the first to publicly bring it up), and was the first to suspect their motives. One might argue that he originally believes the Toa Nuva to be evil. However, you have to remember that they aren't normal Toa: Reidak claims on page 83 (in my copy, at least) of Island of Doom that he had never seen "a Toa with armor like that. Or weird-looking masks like the ones they're wearing." So, naturally, their Toa-status would be questioned by Kazi as well. - Now, this might seem to be extremely trivial and insignificant, but it might be worth mentioning: he never complained about the heat. Assuming that he is a Ko-Matoran, he probably would spend much more time out on the coast near ice. However, if he was a Great Being, a species that lived on a planet that largely consisted of desert, he would be just fine. Sure, he lived on Voya Nui and might have adapted to the heat (I believe that there has been a discussion regarding Takua's resistance to heat, actually), or could have simply stopped complaining (which doesn't seem like something that Kazi would do, really), but it still might be something. However, we don't know if things like resistance to cold are actually hardwired into the brains of Spherus Magnans (presumably the Great Beings would "code" the Matoran Universe denizens' behaviors the same way if this was the case), or if cold-resistant beings simply have special armor (so a Toa of Fire with an Iden in a Toa of Ice's body would have a resistance to cold). It might be interesting to know... Just a thought, though, which I know sort of contradicts my second point but still: It was never stated that they want to get back at the Matoran, just the planet. So, could it be that the Great Beings want revenge on the Glatorian for causing the Shattering?

This is a good theory, and I have to say a lot of work went into it. But on the other hand the Great Beings loved to create, and they are very intelligent. Kazi being not fond of using his mind to solve puzzles seems a little out of synch with the face of an inventor. Surely a Great Being would want something to do to keep their mind active? This kind of disrupts my theory of Dume too, as he wasn't much of an inventor or builder. We have to remember that the Great Beings are obsessed with creation, so much so that the horror of Sahmad's tale nearly died from their dreams.

[Makuta_of_Oz]

It could be Click. -SK

Click was never inside Mata Nui... he was always on his shoulder!

It was a joke, really, but the more I think about it the more I realize. As far as WE know he was never in the MU. ;D -SK

I know it was a joke. I just countered with another joke!

[SkullKid]

I personally thought it was the Recorder of the Shadowed One. However, he might be too much of a minor charecter to be it.-SK

[Makuta_of_Oz]

I personally thought it was the Recorder of the Shadowed One.However, he might be too much of a minor charecter to be it.-SK

The Recorder doesn't have a known name, so I think he's out. Edited October 22, 2011 by Makuta_of_Oz

[Just A Dot]

Question: Are the murderer and the Great Being the same person?

[Erebus]

I asked GregF about that question last year, and he said he couldn't answer:

2. Is the murderer the Great Being in disguise, the subject of the "Name That GB" contest? If so, that rules out the inhabitants of the building, correct?

2) I cannot answer this

[Makuta_of_Oz]

Question: Are the murderer and the Great Being the same person?

No-one knows for sure yet. edit ninjad Edited October 22, 2011 by Makuta_of_Oz

[The True Zedd of BZPower]

I think the best way to figure this is out is to not guess who it is, but to figure who it couldn't be, making the list of likely candidates easier. starting out: -Any character who has actively opposed Mata Nui, among those are Barraki, Piraka, Brutaka, Karzahni Pit Prisoners and most Brotherhood of Makuta servants, even a few Dark hunters. The reason for this is simple. Why would the GB try to undermine and oppose is creation? Especially if he is there to only observe. -Any character who has had their mind wiped or been in extended stasis, This is formed based on none of the Metru Nui Matoran being candidates, as well as the Toa Mata being in their canisters. The great being having his mind wiped is something that really can't happen, and being in extended stasis kinda makes the GB bad at his job. So this rules out pretty much every single person who was affected by the Time Slip, as well as the Toa Mata who were in their canisters for 100,000 years. Which narrows it down to one organization: The Order of Mata Nui. Now this is a stretch but Biosector01 says that everybody in the Universe had their mind wiped in the time slip except the Order. So let's look at the living named members who could not be the great Being shall we? -Helryx, already ruled out.-Tobduk, see above.-Krakua, would have been affected by the Time Slip-Mazeka, see above-Brutaka, already ruled out by Greg.-Axonn, see above.-Hydraxxon II, As Dekar he would have been affected by the Time Slip. So that narrows it down to three candidates: Jerbraz, Johmak, and Trinuma.Admittedly this surprises even me, but it is what it is. So let's break each one down: -Jerbraz, Being invisible give a HUGE advantage to not being seen, perhaps the invisibility "mistake" was engineered so that the Great Being could go unnoticed wherever he went? If it really was a mistake and he was rendered invisible permanently then it could pose a problem. -Johmak, The obvious problem here is that Johmak is female the GB is male, but since Greg considered Helryx early on I don't think it's that much of a stretch to think that he changed his gender. Johmak was obviously determined to make sure Metru Nui defended itself from the Brotherhood, but aside from that we know very little about her. This could be a good thing since we don't know what to expect from the GB do we? -Trinuma​, much like Johmak we know very little about this one, which again is a good thing to some extent. He is known to be extremely loyal, and well that's about it. Keep in mind also that Greg has stated the character has had a role in the story, but never mentioned it was a big role. So minor characters like these three might be what we least expect.

Edited October 22, 2011 by The True Zedd of Ponypower

[The 1st Shadow]

I was so sure it was Kapura, that honestly I have no candidate to theorize. I see the logic behind rejecting him though, but it doesn't give me any options. But I thought of this. The only character I can think of that it might be Turaga Dume. He doesn't see the Matoran as equals, as can be seen in his willingness to keep the Matoran of knowing about Mata-Nui's death, and he has a great dislike of people disobeying him, as seen when Nokama told Jaller the truth. And we know the Great Beings thought of themselves as gods, or at least superior lifegorms. And while he can seem uncaring towards his Matoran, he fiercely protects Metru-Nui, standing up to Dark Hunters. Perhaps he knew the danger of letting the hunters have a base in the robot's brain? And he knew the truth of Mata-Nui's death, something that most MU inhabitants won't figure out. In the Dark Mirror universe, Dume claims that no Toa is his friend. Yet since he was a Toa, won't he realize that they could be heroes? But if he was really a Great Being, he won't see himself as a Toa. Not to mention that he didn't loose his memories, despite being in a capsule. And since Metru-Nui is Mata-Nui's vulnerable point, a Great Being would want it to supervise it so that Spherus-Magna would reform. Feel free to find all the flaws with this idea.

Interesting theory.... He knew the location of the six canisters underneath Metru-Nui, and he was able to correctly deduce that Mata Nui was dying. Dume seems to be the perfect candidate, now that you mention him, and I can easily see him secretly being a Great Being. Edited October 22, 2011 by The 1st Shadow

[toa kopaka4372]

I think the best way to figure this is out is to not guess who it is, but to figure who it couldn't be, making the list of likely candidates easier. starting out: -Any character who has actively opposed Mata Nui, among those are Barraki, Piraka, Brutaka, Karzahni Pit Prisoners and most Brotherhood of Makuta servants, even a few Dark hunters. The reason for this is simple. Why would the GB try to undermine and oppose is creation? Especially if he is there to only observe. -Any character who has had their mind wiped or been in extended stasis, This is formed based on none of the Metru Nui Matoran being candidates, as well as the Toa Mata being in their canisters. The great being having his mind wiped is something that really can't happen, and being in extended stasis kinda makes the GB bad at his job. So this rules out pretty much every single person who was affected by the Time Slip, as well as the Toa Mata who were in their canisters for 100,000 years. Which narrows it down to one organization: The Order of Mata Nui. Now this is a stretch but Biosector01 says that everybody in the Universe had their mind wiped in the time slip except the Order. So let's look at the living named members who could not be the great Being shall we? -Helryx, already ruled out. -Tobduk, see above. -Krakua, would have been affected by the Time Slip -Mazeka, see above -Brutaka, already ruled out by Greg. -Axonn, see above. -Hydraxxon II, As Dekar he would have been affected by the Time Slip. So that narrows it down to three candidates: Jerbraz, Johmak, and Trinuma. Admittedly this surprises even me, but it is what it is. So let's break each one down: -Jerbraz, Being invisible give a HUGE advantage to not being seen, perhaps the invisibility "mistake" was engineered so that the Great Being could go unnoticed wherever he went? If it really was a mistake and he was rendered invisible permanently then it could pose a problem. -Johmak, The obvious problem here is that Johmak is female the GB is male, but since Greg considered Helryx early on I don't think it's that much of a stretch to think that he changed his gender. Johmak was obviously determined to make sure Metru Nui defended itself from the Brotherhood, but aside from that we know very little about her. This could be a good thing since we don't know what to expect from the GB do we? -Trinuma​, much like Johmak we know very little about this one, which again is a good thing to some extent. He is known to be extremely loyal, and well that's about it. Keep in mind also that Greg has stated the character has had a role in the story, but never mentioned it was a big role. So minor characters like these three might be what we least expect.

Well, keep in mind that the Time Slip only affected the memories of everyone for 6 months, which means the GB would still remember he's a GB. He'd only forget what he had done for the past 6 months. I think that since the GB wanted to observe, thus implying not really taking an active role in the universe, makes him more likely to be a Matoran that a figure of power.

[redacted]

I forgot all about this, it still hasn't been revealed?I haven't read any serials past 2009... xD

[Harvali]

I just thought of something, what if it was Mavrah? He was a researcher, like the Great Beings, and a Great Being could easily control their creations, and possibly the creations their inventions made. He was obsessive about his work, and we know the Great Beings dumped control of a planet on some terrible leaders because they preferred to learn than lead. He didn't see the ramifications of his actions when the Toa Metru encountered him, and we know the Great Beings have a tendency to invent things that go horribly wrong( Elemental Lords, Baterra, that Toa killing robot...) And of all the Matoran in Metru-Nui, only he didn't loose his memories...But the reason I consider him is because he is because of the speculation that the Great Being is killing the Powers that Be(poor Tren Krom). When Tren Krom went to a farm where he will be much happier now, he sent a vision of the Red Star in Kopaka and Pohatu's minds. And when they reached said object, they discovered Mavrah. How could an ordinary Onu-Matoran go from drowning to hiding in a gigantic jetpack?Now I don't personally buy into this, as I feel there are too many gaps. But still, consider this if you like.

[Erebus]

Mavrah hasn't evactuated onto Spherus Magna yet; he's still in the Red Star, so it can't be him.

[Night Terror]

It's obvious, isn't it? It is...Tahnok-Kal! 8DWell, maybe not. I don't see Trinuma for sure, since he's loyal. I'd have to double check on Dume before giving an opinion on him.

[Lewa0111 Nuva]

I like the idea of it being Dume. I really do, and the more I think about it the more sense it makes. But in case it isn't Dume, my follow-up guess is...Hydraxon. I know what you're thinking: There's so much wrong with this theory. Hydraxon I died, and Hydraxon II was Dekar, who lost his memory. However, when I speak of Hydraxon, I mean BOTH Hydraxons. (Hydraxi? ) Note that soon after the original Hydraxon died, a Matoran was turned into a carbon copy of the original...complete with memories. Hydraxon II has no memory of "dying" or of ever being Dekar, but he does have all the memories of the original. This kind of circumstance has never been seen before in the BIONICLE story, as far as I am aware of. So, if Hydraxon I was really a GB, wouldn't said GB have created some kind of "failsafe" in case he was killed during his observations in the MU? He just "resurrects" himself automatically into a new body and goes on observing like nothing had changed. But I still think it's Dume, Hydraxon is just a close second. Feel free to poke holes in my Hydraxon theory. Lewa0111 Nuva

[Harvali]

Mavrah hasn't evactuated onto Spherus Magna yet; he's still in the Red Star, so it can't be him.

I knew there was a reason I didn't like that theory. So my money is back on Dume or that Voya-Nui Matoran.

[Dralcax]

I have a guess that I don't think I've seen yet (certainly not in this topic, at least). I thought that Kazi might be the Great Being...sure, one might argue that Velika might be a better candidate, but both have their pros and cons. Anyways, here are my reasons: - He has a personality similar to that of a nervous Great Being, based on what we've heard about them. Obviously, he is very sarcastic and pessimistic: he's cold even for a Ko-Matoran. He hates it when he has to solve riddles or anything like that. - He has a motive. He was sent to Karzahni because he didn't work too hard - maybe he was observing, instead. Then, he was reassembled into a weaker form, and shipped off like he was a failure by one of his own nanotech workers to a barren realm, and was then shot out of the Matoran Universe, meaning that he couldn't observe nearly as much as before. Sure, Karzahni is dead now, but I'm assuming that both The Powers That Be and The Yesterday Quest are taking place at the exact same time, so Kazi wouldn't know...or maybe the serials are connected somehow. - He kept a journal. He has records of what has been going on around him essentially since the Great Cataclysm, which would make sense based on the last point: the amount that he can observe has been severely diminished, so he might as well try to learn as much as he can about what is happening in this new locale to compensate, and as far as we know, he was the only Voya Nui Matoran to keep records like this. This is a problem for the Velika theory, as if I recall correctly, the Voya Nui Matoran didn't remember anything before the Great Cataclysm (I know that this is the case with the Mahri Nui Matoran with regards to their village's submersion, not 100% sure about the Voya Nui Matoran though), and, like I said above, as far as we know, Velika would not have had any way to remember the events right after the Cataclysm, while Kazi did. - He did doubt (and rightly so) the Piraka's Toa-status (and one of the first to publicly bring it up), and was the first to suspect their motives. One might argue that he originally believes the Toa Nuva to be evil. However, you have to remember that they aren't normal Toa: Reidak claims on page 83 (in my copy, at least) of Island of Doom that he had never seen "a Toa with armor like that. Or weird-looking masks like the ones they're wearing." So, naturally, their Toa-status would be questioned by Kazi as well. - Now, this might seem to be extremely trivial and insignificant, but it might be worth mentioning: he never complained about the heat. Assuming that he is a Ko-Matoran, he probably would spend much more time out on the coast near ice. However, if he was a Great Being, a species that lived on a planet that largely consisted of desert, he would be just fine. Sure, he lived on Voya Nui and might have adapted to the heat (I believe that there has been a discussion regarding Takua's resistance to heat, actually), or could have simply stopped complaining (which doesn't seem like something that Kazi would do, really), but it still might be something. However, we don't know if things like resistance to cold are actually hardwired into the brains of Spherus Magnans (presumably the Great Beings would "code" the Matoran Universe denizens' behaviors the same way if this was the case), or if cold-resistant beings simply have special armor (so a Toa of Fire with an Iden in a Toa of Ice's body would have a resistance to cold). It might be interesting to know... Just a thought, though, which I know sort of contradicts my second point but still: It was never stated that they want to get back at the Matoran, just the planet. So, could it be that the Great Beings want revenge on the Glatorian for causing the Shattering?

Actually, I think Velika is better. He appears to speak in riddles, and every piece of advice is given in the form of a fable. He was also able to construct a Zamor launcher while having never posessed one before, or obtained instructions. As well, he recognized Energized protodermis while his peers did not, as well as how it could help them, and he knew it would only affect the antidermis and not the Matoran. So why does he know so much? Simple. He's the GB. He also does not want to give himself away by revealing too much of his knowledge. He also became an inventor because the GBs love creation, and it would serve as a decent excuse for his knowledge. And he talks in fables so that the complexity of the presentation would distract those around him from wondering how he knew what he knew.

[The 1st Shadow]

Okay, so out of all the brilliant theories I've seen thus far, I think the most plausible are the ones concerning Dume, Mavrah, Hydraxon, Velika, and Kazi. I seriously doubt it could be anyone else.Nonetheless, I continue to see many interesting theories, and this discussion is very intriguing. Keep thinking, guys! And if I have a theory later, I'll bring it by.

[HordikaMode]

Either Krakua, or one of the Voya Nui Matoran. Probably Velika, seeing as he is so smart... and did he fix Lewa's sword, or just offer to?

[Akuna Toa of Sonics]

Interesting..I wonder who it is.

[UltraHau]

Either Krakua, or one of the Voya Nui Matoran. Probably Velika, seeing as he is so smart... and did he fix Lewa's sword, or just offer to?

He fixed Lewa's air katana, without having seen one before. That's definitely a strong argument for Velika being "the" GB.

[Zarohum]

I have a guess that I don't think I've seen yet (certainly not in this topic, at least). I thought that Kazi might be the Great Being...sure, one might argue that Velika might be a better candidate, but both have their pros and cons. Anyways, here are my reasons: - He has a personality similar to that of a nervous Great Being, based on what we've heard about them. Obviously, he is very sarcastic and pessimistic: he's cold even for a Ko-Matoran. He hates it when he has to solve riddles or anything like that. - He has a motive. He was sent to Karzahni because he didn't work too hard - maybe he was observing, instead. Then, he was reassembled into a weaker form, and shipped off like he was a failure by one of his own nanotech workers to a barren realm, and was then shot out of the Matoran Universe, meaning that he couldn't observe nearly as much as before. Sure, Karzahni is dead now, but I'm assuming that both The Powers That Be and The Yesterday Quest are taking place at the exact same time, so Kazi wouldn't know...or maybe the serials are connected somehow. - He kept a journal. He has records of what has been going on around him essentially since the Great Cataclysm, which would make sense based on the last point: the amount that he can observe has been severely diminished, so he might as well try to learn as much as he can about what is happening in this new locale to compensate, and as far as we know, he was the only Voya Nui Matoran to keep records like this. This is a problem for the Velika theory, as if I recall correctly, the Voya Nui Matoran didn't remember anything before the Great Cataclysm (I know that this is the case with the Mahri Nui Matoran with regards to their village's submersion, not 100% sure about the Voya Nui Matoran though), and, like I said above, as far as we know, Velika would not have had any way to remember the events right after the Cataclysm, while Kazi did. - He did doubt (and rightly so) the Piraka's Toa-status (and one of the first to publicly bring it up), and was the first to suspect their motives. One might argue that he originally believes the Toa Nuva to be evil. However, you have to remember that they aren't normal Toa: Reidak claims on page 83 (in my copy, at least) of Island of Doom that he had never seen "a Toa with armor like that. Or weird-looking masks like the ones they're wearing." So, naturally, their Toa-status would be questioned by Kazi as well. - Now, this might seem to be extremely trivial and insignificant, but it might be worth mentioning: he never complained about the heat. Assuming that he is a Ko-Matoran, he probably would spend much more time out on the coast near ice. However, if he was a Great Being, a species that lived on a planet that largely consisted of desert, he would be just fine. Sure, he lived on Voya Nui and might have adapted to the heat (I believe that there has been a discussion regarding Takua's resistance to heat, actually), or could have simply stopped complaining (which doesn't seem like something that Kazi would do, really), but it still might be something. However, we don't know if things like resistance to cold are actually hardwired into the brains of Spherus Magnans (presumably the Great Beings would "code" the Matoran Universe denizens' behaviors the same way if this was the case), or if cold-resistant beings simply have special armor (so a Toa of Fire with an Iden in a Toa of Ice's body would have a resistance to cold). It might be interesting to know... Just a thought, though, which I know sort of contradicts my second point but still: It was never stated that they want to get back at the Matoran, just the planet. So, could it be that the Great Beings want revenge on the Glatorian for causing the Shattering?

This is a good theory, and I have to say a lot of work went into it. But on the other hand the Great Beings loved to create, and they are very intelligent. Kazi being not fond of using his mind to solve puzzles seems a little out of synch with the face of an inventor. Surely a Great Being would want something to do to keep their mind active? This kind of disrupts my theory of Dume too, as he wasn't much of an inventor or builder. We have to remember that the Great Beings are obsessed with creation, so much so that the horror of Sahmad's tale nearly died from their dreams.

Yeah. It has to be Velika.

[alpha123]

Either Krakua, or one of the Voya Nui Matoran. Probably Velika, seeing as he is so smart... and did he fix Lewa's sword, or just offer to?

He fixed Lewa's air katana, without having seen one before. That's definitely a strong argument for Velika being "the" GB.

Meh, Air Katana aren't exactly complicated pieces of machinery, and Velika is a skilled in inventor. IMO, the strongest argument for Velika is his odd wisdom. Personally, I think it's Dume, for all the reasons people have stated above. What better place to observe than Mata Nui's brain? Plus figuring out that Mata Nui was dieing, knowing the Mask of Life would save him, and knowing of those Toa canisters.

[Erebus]

Either Krakua, or one of the Voya Nui Matoran. Probably Velika, seeing as he is so smart... and did he fix Lewa's sword, or just offer to?

He fixed Lewa's air katana, without having seen one before. That's definitely a strong argument for Velika being "the" GB.

He might have seen the other Air Katana.

[Makuta_of_Oz]

Another thing in favour of Velika being the GB that has yet to be mentioned: Velika is Greg's favourite Matoran. Despite that, he has had very little screen time. He still needs his time in the sun, like other faves such as Vezon and Kopaka did.

[Dralcax]

Okay, so out of all the brilliant theories I've seen thus far, I think the most plausible are the ones concerning Dume, Mavrah, Hydraxon, Velika, and Kazi. I seriously doubt it could be anyone else.Nonetheless, I continue to see many interesting theories, and this discussion is very intriguing. Keep thinking, guys! And if I have a theory later, I'll bring it by.

Hydraxon is unlikely, seeing as he died and was replaced by an "identical" being with his memories. The original Hydraxon is dead, so he's not the GB. Dekar's memories were wiped and replaced with Hydraxon's, so that's also unlikely. Also, good point about the air kantana, although I think Velika just forged a new one rather than repairing the old. Apparently, he can reverse-engineer something and reproduce it just by looking at it, as he did with the Zamor Launchers and the Air Katana. That definitely proves he's the GB.

[Devorath]

Tough one. I agree with all these ideas.

[ALVIS]

This brings us to another point: do the GB and the murderer in TPTB have any connection? Several people seem to think they're one and the same, even though this has never been directly stated.

[Dralcax]

No, I think Marendar might be the murderer.

[Makuta_of_Oz]

No, I think Marendar might be the murderer.

No. Marendar hunts only Toa, and neither Karzahni nor Tren Krom were Toa.

[Makuta Matata]

My theories:Zaktan - He was disintegrated, but remember, he's made of Protodites. If he has enough will, he can pull himself back together. Also, he had a mysterious and humble start in a Protodermis mine. His history isn't well known. He could easily be a Great Being in disguise.Axonn - One gets to observe the Universe very well if he's protecting it. Which is what Axonn did. He acted good so that there would still be a Universe for him to do his evil upon.Garan - I don't know why, but I have a hunch that it's a Voya/Mahritoran.A Toa Hagah - I'm gonna try and narrow it down here. It's not Norik or Kualus. That's kind of a given. It's not Pouks. Again, not much proof needed besides personality. Same goes for Gaaki. Which leaves Bomonga and Iruini. I think it could be one of those two. But the likelyhood is smaller than the others because hey were mutated and mind-controlled. A GB should be able to get by that.Gavla - I can totally see this. Look at her. She felt like an outsider among the Matoran because she acted differently, and that was because she was a GB. And she has bad things in store for the Universe because of how her "fellow" Matoran treated her. She pretty much wants revenge. I think that the most likely ones are Gavla or Zaktan.

Edited October 24, 2011 by knuckles chaotix

[Dralcax]

Gavla wouldn't work, because the Makuta intended to hurt the universe, so she would never side with them, and shadow leeches probably don't work on GBs.

[Erebus]

If it was Zaktan, he's not in Zaktan anymore. He would be that gold reptilian being.

[fishers64]

The Mask of Life is really a great being?

Yeah, I'm getting that reaction, a lot. But, think about it. He put his conscious to see how his creation would work. Whose to say that creation was the one he put his conscious into? The Ignika's closest guardian was Umbra. He is the only being to have no inner shadow, and doesn't need air and heat to survive. He is so radically different than any other creation of theirs inside the MU. Maybe he wanted to observe how Umbra would live. And, besides being protected, the Ignika has defense mechanisms that would ensure the Great Being's survival, and thus one day potentially returning to Bara Magna/Spherus Magna. Another thing about the Ignika is that it has the power to destroy the entire MU if it didn't go as planned. Possibly, the Great Being felt he would have the responsibility, and felt he was the only one worthy considering he was one of it's creators. As far as Orde saying a "Bio-mechanical" being, you have to keep in mind he was talking to Gelu, a being that didn't live in the MU. He could have just said that to refer to someone that lived there. Or, another possibility is that Gelu never found out exactly who it was to begin with; he had to pull back. That's why I'm going with Ignika.

I believe that the "character" and "still living" might rule that out. Also, the GB would probably want a thing less easily manipulated. Plus Mata Nui has control of the thing now; it is unlikely that it would be able to execute some evil plan. Third, the Ignika has more primitive thought processes. It has "new" experiences about things a GB would have already experianced.

[Lewa0111 Nuva]

Hydraxon is unlikely, seeing as he died and was replaced by an "identical" being with his memories. The original Hydraxon is dead, so he's not the GB. Dekar's memories were wiped and replaced with Hydraxon's, so that's also unlikely. Also, good point about the air kantana, although I think Velika just forged a new one rather than repairing the old. Apparently, he can reverse-engineer something and reproduce it just by looking at it, as he did with the Zamor Launchers and the Air Katana. That definitely proves he's the GB.

There's nothing (at least that I'm aware of) that states GB's are literally invincible, only that it's very unlikely that they would truly die. If Hydraxon was indeed the GB, wouldn't it be likely that said GB would invent some kind of "backup" system in case he were to die? Just transfer his memories into a new body and continue his work. I'm not saying that Dekar was the GB, I'm saying that the original Hydraxon was the GB, who then transferred his memories into Dekar after his original body was kiled. And please correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the Voyatoran and Mavrah affected by the Time Slip just like every other Matoran in the MU? If so, then they wouldn't be able to be the GB due to the memory wipe. However, Toa (and Turaga by extension) were fine, therefore Dume is still the most plausible theory here. Lewa0111 Nuva

[Erebus]

I would think a GB can bypass the Time Slip.

[Astrotorical]

If a Great Being invented a way to give cyborgs Powers, a robot larger then the EARTH! and a mask that can control life, time and creation, im sure they can make them self invincible.

[Kilax]

Wait,Orde saw that a GB was planning to do something to the Universe. So he must be evil right? My theory is one the Great Beings that hid Ignika. And it could be possible that the GB was somebody we never heard before. But I also agree with the theory of Velika being a GB,and maybe one of the GB that hid the Ignika is Velika.

[Ankarus]

The GB could be Velika or Kazi. But, I think that he could be Axonn. He was on Voya Nui for some time and no one discovered him. He was an observer and intelligent. Not to mention giant and powerful. Don't you think that it would be hard to be so large and still be undiscovered? He had to use some kind of special power. He did get his mind um... trapped... by Teridax... so that rules him out, I guess. If Krika wasn't "dispersed", he would be one of my top picks. All makuta are smart; they were scientists once. And he just... stood out...

[UltraHau]

Another thing in favour of Velika being the GB that has yet to be mentioned: Velika is Greg's favourite Matoran. Despite that, he has had very little screen time. He still needs his time in the sun, like other faves such as Vezon and Kopaka did.

He's GregF's favorite Matoran? Interesting - another reason for him to be "the" GB.