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To quote Wikipedia:

 

 

 

...dwarf is a being that dwells in mountains and in the earth, and is variously associated with wisdom, smithing, mining, and crafting. Dwarfs are often also described as short and ugly, although some scholars have questioned whether this is a later development stemming from comical portrayals of the beings.

 

So I guess by this definition, one could call them dwarfs. Though I wouldn't call Ekimu and Makuta ugly. :P


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They have dwarven traits, certainly, but technically speaking they're only "short" compared to the Toa and similarly-sized characters. Otherwise they're about the same height as the Protectors and Villagers, albeit slightly burlier.


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Well, technically speaking dwarves are 'short' only in comparison to humans (or elves or whatever). That's not a really valid reasoning.

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When I saw this topic title I thought it referred to a dwarf in the medical sense and not the fantasy sense. 

 

But as mentioned; they actually do have a lot of qualities similar to dwarves in fantasy stories. Great job in pointing it out!


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Small giants? They're twice the size of everyone else. That's not small, that's huge. Of course, that could be anthropic reasoning, since the Toa are canonically six foot; around average human height.


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[...] since the Toa are canonically six foot; around average human height.

 

Actually, in G1 at least, they were around 7' 2". They are approximately 1.6 bio tall, and each bio is 4.5 feet, so 1.6 * 4.5 = 7.2, which works out to 7 feet, 2 and 13/32 inches.

Still, that was G1, as far as I know we don't have a canon height for the G2 Toa.


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[...] since the Toa are canonically six foot; around average human height.

Actually, in G1 at least, they were around 7' 2". They are approximately 1.6 bio tall, and each bio is 4.5 feet, so 1.6 * 4.5 = 7.2, which works out to 7 feet, 2 and 13/32 inches.

Still, that was G1, as far as I know we don't have a canon height for the G2 Toa.

Ouch... I assumed the Toa were slightly shorter than a human based on the scale of Bionicle vs the Star Wars figures. But if they are supposed to be taller than a human, that means the scale we have is way off.


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Every self-respecting dwarf has a beard.

 

I don't see any beards.

The lower parts of both the Mask of Creation and Mask of Control sort of resemble beards...

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When I said "small giants" I meant they were not the size of a titan set that would be a giant. If the protectors are average sized 5'8" then the Toa are above average 7'8"

As a titan set would be considerd a giant 12'8'

I have a bionicle MoC that's a giant: twice the size of the Masters. The Protectors are half the size of the Masters. If you were including the titans in your comparison, you should've said so, but we haven't seen any large sets taller than the toa.


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When I said "small giants" I meant they were not the size of a titan set that would be a giant. If the protectors are average sized 5'8" then the Toa are above average 7'8"

As a titan set would be considerd a giant 12'8'

I have a bionicle MoC that's a giant: twice the size of the Masters. The Protectors are half the size of the Masters. If you were including the titans in your comparison, you should've said so, but we haven't seen any large sets taller than the toa.

 

Technically speaking Umarak the Destroyer would probably qualify. Even though he hasn't been released yet, we have "seen" him.


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Well, the Stars sets basically confirmed that there is no real scale consistency between sets (as appealing as the idea of a tiny angry Tahu is).

 

I assume Protectors are only slightly shorter than the average human, maybe averaging around 5'2", which is still consistent with some interpretations of dwarves.

 

I used to think G1 Matoran might have been loosely based on certain fantasy races. Onu-Matoran were like dwarves, Ga-Matoran were Naiads (They even had one called Nixie), Le-Matoran were sort of like elves but also had things in common with leshies and lesoviks (heh), etc. 


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Yarr, but I'm pretty sure that differences in set sizes aren't representative of in-canon story Toa height. 

 

That's why I was going with established lore heights. I just hadn't heard that the villagers were considered 'short human' as opposed to 'hobbit' sized.


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