Villains Of Bionicle

[Kaleidoscope Tekulo]

I thought it would be fun to discuss the darker side of Bionicle with its villains. Not just the guy who took the last widget from the widget jar (or whatever the Lego equivalent of a piggy bank is), but the dark murderers and organizations with schemes within schemes withing schemes that we all just love to hate (or worship depending on your sick little minds <3). Who was your favorite? Did you feel they lacked anything? Who would you play poker with to help you cheat? Discuss here! ^^To start things off, I'd have to say my favorite villain was Roodaka (contrary to my brothers arguing that my reasoning was flawed and that I was a total cool dude for liking her) mainly because of her voice actor in the movie. She was manipulative, venomous and all around a traitor. Gotta love her. ^^Though, I did feel a lack of something from the villains. I like an antagonist with redeeming qualities to their characters (like if Ahkmou were to stop being a grump or if he were actually a decent guy before he got his memory totally wiped and then had lies and harsh facts dumped on him by Makuta). Granted, this wouldn't have worked with every villain, but I would've liked to see that somewhere in the story.

Edited April 7, 2012 by Tekulo: Toa of Gales

[Paleo]

I'm gonna say one of the most obvious choices ever.Teridax.Not only was he a good villain, unlike other villains in kids stories, he actually SUCCEEDED. This added a whole new face to Bionicle and set the story apart from other toy line stories.

[Protodite Karzahni]

The best villain was clearly Teri-

I'm gonna say one of the most obvious choices ever.Teridax.Not only was he a good villain, unlike other villains in kids stories, he actually SUCCEEDED. This added a whole new face to Bionicle and set the story apart from other toy line stories.

...This.But every villain had their own charms and quirks. The Piraka were interesting to watch because they reminded me of the youths you'd see hanging around street corners, keying cars and just performing acts of random violence whilst listening to their blaring rap music. The Barraki were fun to follow as they were warlords used to luxury and power, reduced to ugly sea creatures roaming the depths. Vezon was fun at first but then grew stale fast, which is a bit of a pity.The villains I'd say that didn't work best were the Makuta of 2008. There just wasn't enough time to explore them in their entirety. I'm not blaming Greg, given he was obviously pushed for time, but I just felt that for these ancient and omnipotent threats to the universe, they didn't exactly do much.

[fishers64]

Roodaka definitely stood out to me as the shrewd dark manipulator. I disliked how her creepy devotion to Teridax and shrewd manipulation was cheapened as the story went along - basically getting walked over. She could have been so much more. And I like Teridax. Captain obvious wins the favorite award. The other villains felt a bit two-dimensional, but I liked the depth given to the Piraka and the Dark Hunters and the 2008 Makuta. And the Barraki too, but I felt that they were my least favorite villains, randomly thrown in. One of the problems with Bionicle and the villains were that they were just too many of them, and not many of them stand out for particular reasons. Sometimes we just threw in villains so that the Toa would have something to fight (I'm thinking Gadunka here...). As for the villain with redeeming qualities, Brutaka comes to mind as well as Krika.

[Parazan]

Favorite villain: Icarax.Sorry,but this one quote describes how awesome he is:

"I believe in certainties. The strength of my limbs, the power of my mask, the sharp edges of my blades — that is what I build my plans around. Trickery, deception, complex strategies, they are for the weak! If you want power, and another has it, you get it not by outwitting him — you get it by stepping over his corpse."

[Toa Smoke Monster]

My favorite villains are the Piraka. Each of them had cool powers and their different personalities really helped them standout from the pre-06 villains. Bionicle Legends 4 helped with this, IMO. That book really helped them become more than just regular villains, making each of them their own character. I felt this was lacking for the villains post-06, like with some of the Barracki and 08 Makuta. Though the Mutran Chronicles did help flesh out the latter with their personalities somewhat. (At least with Mutran, anyway. )

[Taipu1]

Teridax I'd raise, partly for his general overlording of '01 to '03 and partly because of his behaviour in '06 to '08. An evil genius there.Also Vakama in '05. It was a short-lived villainry (Real word? ) but while it lasted his morals were so scrambled he was pretty much capable of anything.

[Kaleidoscope Tekulo]

I'm gonna say one of the most obvious choices ever.Teridax.Not only was he a good villain, unlike other villains in kids stories, he actually SUCCEEDED. This added a whole new face to Bionicle and set the story apart from other toy line stories.

Good point. I don't deny he was a great villain (Heck, back in his first appearance in 2001 he submitted my favorite quote from Bionicle). Too bad his success was short-lived and that he was overthrown in an alternate Tuyet universe. Kinda cheapened him a bit in my opinion.

But every villain had their own charms and quirks. The Piraka were interesting to watch because they reminded me of the youths you'd see hanging around street corners, keying cars and just performing acts of random violence whilst listening to their blaring rap music. The Barraki were fun to follow as they were warlords used to luxury and power, reduced to ugly sea creatures roaming the depths. Vezon was fun at first but then grew stale fast, which is a bit of a pity.The villains I'd say that didn't work best were the Makuta of 2008. There just wasn't enough time to explore them in their entirety. I'm not blaming Greg, given he was obviously pushed for time, but I just felt that for these ancient and omnipotent threats to the universe, they didn't exactly do much.

... I have a new-found fear of teenagers now... XPYeah, I got kinda bummed out when Makuta became a species. Teridax set the bar pretty high for one thing, but I agree with the short amount of time. Maybe if they were introduced a year or two earlier it might have helped (working in the shadows following the Inika or Mahri instead of Teridax. That might have been interesting). Mutran Chronicles seemed to help that a bit, though.

Roodaka definitely stood out to me as the shrewd dark manipulator. I disliked how her creepy devotion to Teridax and shrewd manipulation was cheapened as the story went along - basically getting walked over. She could have been so much more. And I like Teridax. Captain obvious wins the favorite award.The other villains felt a bit two-dimensional, but I liked the depth given to the Piraka and the Dark Hunters and the 2008 Makuta. And the Barraki too, but I felt that they were my least favorite villains, randomly thrown in. One of the problems with Bionicle and the villains were that they were just too many of them, and not many of them stand out for particular reasons. Sometimes we just threw in villains so that the Toa would have something to fight (I'm thinking Gadunka here...).As for the villain with redeeming qualities, Brutaka comes to mind as well as Krika.

I agree with that. Roodaka in the later years wasn't anywhere near as entertaining. She probably could've mutated the group (or Brutaka) and then started a riot or could have snuck away. Maybe she could've turned herself into a sea-rahi temporarily and made her escape! (Okay, that last one sounds a bit far-fetched, but the general idea still stands. XP). I liked the Piraka, though. A team of villains that were in it for themselves first and foremost and who were only really working together out of convenience. Plus, they were rogues from the Dark Hunters, so I thought that really made the story interesting. I think I should probably mention at this point that I never really payed much attention to the 2008 story. XD I know Krika has had some sympathy to him, but I nevery really knew why (and I've never really bothered to look it up. Something to do with Gali I think). As for Brutaka (and I'm glad you pointed this out bedcause I knew I was missing someone), he doesn't strike me as a good guy in the current set of events. Maybe it's the fact that his eyes are shadows or the glowing aura, or maybe the fact that I picture him levitating... XP Oh, and Krika's dead too... Though, Brutaka was an interesting villain in that respect. I agree that he did have qualities of what I thought the Bionicle story was missing with its villains, though for whatever reason his story seemed kinda... odd... The Tahtorak, his ability to go anywhere, but his decision to stay on a rock and get bored into insanity, plus the fact his power seemed pretty dang impressive and he still lost, and now the glowing aura of darkness that now covers him... It's a bit much to take in for me... O.o

Also Vakama in '05. It was a short-lived villainry (Real word? ) but while it lasted his morals were so scrambled he was pretty much capable of anything.

Haha, that's an interesting thought! You know, it would be interesting to see how he would've turned out as a villain. Vakama as Makuta's hordika henchman that controls Ta-Metru. Teridax has him begging for treats as Vakama performs many embarassing tricks and actions. Dance my puppet dance! XP (I could see that)

[Taipu1]

Also Vakama in '05. It was a short-lived villainry (Real word? ) but while it lasted his morals were so scrambled he was pretty much capable of anything.

Haha, that's an interesting thought! You know, it would be interesting to see how he would've turned out as a villain. Vakama as Makuta's hordika henchman that controls Ta-Metru. Teridax has him begging for treats as Vakama performs many embarassing tricks and actions. Dance my puppet dance! XP (I could see that)

Except if Vakama stayed evil, Teridax would never be released from the Protodermis cage, and Vakama may have eventually turned against Roodaka, and conquered Metru-Nui, now the only commander of the Visorak.Then the Hordika Venom would finish with his brain, and he would just be another Rahi...

[Kaleidoscope Tekulo]

I thought it was Roodaka's plan to turn all of the Hordika and then free Teridax? Though, if she were overthrown, then that would pose a problem. XDThough, if he did become fully hordika, I'm not sure he'd lose his intelligence. After all, look at Keetongu (a rahi). It was interesting to see a hero become a villain, nonetheless. We got snippets of that with Lewa as well (though that was even more short-lived).

[Makuta Matata]

My favorite is the Shadowed One, and I'm just a bit disappointed that he wasn't used as much as he should have been. Especially in the post 2008 story. I mean, wasn't there something with the Barraki and the Shadowed One going down? I was excited fro that!

[Ehlekdude]

Although I really like Teridax, the Piraka and the Barraki, my favourite was by far Krika. You could see a glimpse of goodness in him and he really had a lot of potential, it was a real pity that he just got killed like that.

[Toatapio Nuva]

Personally, I love Makuta the most. No, not Teridax, Teridax was lame. But Makuta, the lord of darkness. My second favourite was definately Roodaka in all her mystique...

[25K Now!]

Mutran. He was a stereotypical mad scientist, but he was awesome nonetheless.

[Axilus Prime]

Though, I did feel a lack of something from the villains. I like an antagonist with redeeming qualities to their characters (like if Ahkmou were to stop being a grump or if he were actually a decent guy before he got his memory totally wiped and then had lies and harsh facts dumped on him by Makuta). Granted, this wouldn't have worked with every villain, but I would've liked to see that somewhere in the story.

Krika has the redeeming qualities. Brutaka went full-on good guy when he was redeemed, so I wouldn't count him. (Then again, when he fell into Antidermis...)I enjoyed the arguments with Mutran and Chirox, some of it was quite funny.Best villain was obviously Makuta. (I mean Teridax. I don't give a Karz what I call him, same guy to me, and an epic one at that.) The guy became God, that's pretty definitive.

[Visaru]

I can never understand why everyone loves Krika. Just because he realized that he was a hate worshiping makuta and tries to split up the toa team and prevent them from awakining mata nui by talking to gali doesn't make him incredibly interesting. Maybe I need to read that book again.I liked Icarax, simply because he was so darned powerful and cool looking. And Brutaka, because that might be the coolest bionicle figure ever made, and he's gto an awesome sense of distorted righteousness and humor. And he's powerful too.In a similar vein, the Piraka were some of the most impressive villians ever. They sqaubbled, had really cool powers and qaulities. Zaktan was made of protodites, Hakann could create mental blasts, Vezok could steal people's powers, etc. They beat up and destroyed the Toa Nuva, our heroes for most of the earier story, in one battle without losing one of their own. How's that for a cool introduction?Sadly, they end up losing repeatedly to a group of novice toa. They seem to lose a lot of their power later, although story wise there were explanations. (Infighting, extra inika lightning powers, and so on). Their exit end of 2006 ended well with a bit of a cliffhanger: the Piraka waiting for their next move, slowly being mutated by that water in that place underground...It's a shame they get sidetracked, turned into snakes and thrown into a glorified aquarium in the Order of Mata Nui stronghold.

[Dwanny]

I'm gonna say one of the most obvious choices ever.Teridax.Not only was he a good villain, unlike other villains in kids stories, he actually SUCCEEDED. This added a whole new face to Bionicle and set the story apart from other toy line stories.

I can't help but agree.

[a goose]

Oh, no-one mentions Takadox? He deserves a lot more love than he's getting, here. Second to Takadox is Terry, though.Face it, guys: Takadox was (and still is) awesome. (Although I may be biased. I did buy him three times, and name a website after him. XD)

[Tilius]

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Edited April 27, 2021 by Tilius

[Cederak]

There's so many options, and while Teridax feels like a fine answer, I'm reminded that he wasn't the first entity to consider usurping Mata Nui. That honor goes to Pridak - a warlord of angry passion and my favorite villain overall.-Ced

[Visaru]

Favorite villain: Icarax.Sorry,but this one quote describes how awesome he is:

"I believe in certainties. The strength of my limbs, the power of my mask, the sharp edges of my blades — that is what I build my plans around. Trickery, deception, complex strategies, they are for the weak! If you want power, and another has it, you get it not by outwitting him — you get it by stepping over his corpse."

To be honest, that quote just makes him seem incredibly dull. There's nothing clever or interesting about a villain like that. It's just cliche dialogue for a dull character.

Why does that make him seem dull? Most villains of bionicle are all shceme-y, like teridax. This makes Icarax feel less like another Teridax. I think a Makuta who tries to destroy everything is interesting; most other makuta we've seen before are very behind-the-senes and manipulative.And personally, by most bionicle standards, I don't think it's cliche.

[You just lost the game]

I can't really say who my favorite villain is, since I have a couple.I always enjoyed Vezon, since he was so unpredictable. He could be good, he could be bad.Teridax is obviously one of the best because he actually succeeded. lolI also found The Shadowed One to be quite an awesome villain, even though he never really showed himself much.

[Kopaka25]

My favorite is Makuta Teridax:'You cannot destroy me, for I am nothing.'That, and the fact that he managed to win sums up why he's my favorite.

[The Swimming Beard]

I think The Shadowed One lacked development in the story. His role just seemed too minor to me.

[Akuna Toa of Sonics]

Teridax is one of my favorite characters overall. He formulated a 1000 year long plan and intentionally failed to succeed in conquering the Matoran Universe.The crazy skakdi, Vezon, is also cool because he just seems like an interesting character: An insane person who goes to a different dimension with every step.

[Tilius]

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Edited April 27, 2021 by Tilius

[DeLaSouth]

METUS.He was only in it for profit.To me, he is the complete embodiment of deceit & greed.

[Athmos]

Favorite villain: Icarax.Sorry,but this one quote describes how awesome he is:

"I believe in certainties. The strength of my limbs, the power of my mask, the sharp edges of my blades — that is what I build my plans around. Trickery, deception, complex strategies, they are for the weak! If you want power, and another has it, you get it not by outwitting him — you get it by stepping over his corpse."

To be honest, that quote just makes him seem incredibly dull. There's nothing clever or interesting about a villain like that. It's just cliche dialogue for a dull character.

Why does that make him seem dull? Most villains of bionicle are all shceme-y, like teridax. This makes Icarax feel less like another Teridax. I think a Makuta who tries to destroy everything is interesting; most other makuta we've seen before are very behind-the-senes and manipulative.And personally, by most bionicle standards, I don't think it's cliche.

It's cliche by overall standards. It's just standard bad-guy talk. He might be unique for Bionicle (which I don't think he really is anyway) but is just the same of 99% of villains in everything ever.- Tilius

That's very true.He's basically monologuing, which we know all villians do. Edited April 13, 2012 by thebeggerpie

[Vandenreich]

I always liked Vengeance they poor guy gets owned by Lihkan swear's revenge on him, then Teridax kills him he swear's revenge on him and then, BOOM Mata-Nui kills him.Poor guy always gets Cheated out of revenge.

[Visaru]

It's cliche by overall standards. It's just standard bad-guy talk. He might be unique for Bionicle (which I don't think he really is anyway) but is just the same of 99% of villains in everything ever.- Tilius

I think he's less cliche by overall standards than Teridax is.

[Toa Zaz]

Gotta tell ya, I really dug Zaktan. He was just a completely remorseless fiend with an interesting (if woefully underused) ability. Shame we didn't see more of him....Besides, Tekulo: Toa of Gales, I think we all know why you really like Roodaka so much...

[fishers64]

Favorite villain: Icarax.Sorry,but this one quote describes how awesome he is:

"I believe in certainties. The strength of my limbs, the power of my mask, the sharp edges of my blades — that is what I build my plans around. Trickery, deception, complex strategies, they are for the weak! If you want power, and another has it, you get it not by outwitting him — you get it by stepping over his corpse."

To be honest, that quote just makes him seem incredibly dull. There's nothing clever or interesting about a villain like that. It's just cliche dialogue for a dull character.

Why does that make him seem dull? Most villains of bionicle are all shceme-y, like teridax. This makes Icarax feel less like another Teridax. I think a Makuta who tries to destroy everything is interesting; most other makuta we've seen before are very behind-the-senes and manipulative.And personally, by most bionicle standards, I don't think it's cliche.

It's cliche by overall standards. It's just standard bad-guy talk. He might be unique for Bionicle (which I don't think he really is anyway) but is just the same of 99% of villains in everything ever.- Tilius

Being a evil mastermind cooking up plans and other things and a guy that throws all that out in a senseless quest for violence are both cliche. However, "99% of villains in everything ever" do not throw all reasoning out; the evil mastermind thing is not something unique to Bionicle.

[Creature]

Zaktan was one of the most intimidating of all the villians. The Piraka as a whole was an interesting new concept story-wise for the bionicle saga. Rather than a group of mechaniods (bohrok and vahki) or servants (rahkshi and visorak) the Piraka were a group of individuals each with different personalities. You could really fear the hatred and violence wafting off those guys and I remember feeling that they were almost unbeatable and potentially even a match for makuta. There was quite a sense of dread when they defeated the Toa Nuva, and to this day I still find it difficult to believe they were able to do it. Set wise their design was very alien from anything before them which set them apart. But, back to Zaktan, the fact that he learned Maluta's plan and knew what antidermis was earns him some major vilian cred. It was a major story disservice to mutate the piraka into sea snakes.

[MrSciFiGuy]

Roodaka is one of my favorites. I absolutely love her cunning and intense web of plans she makes for any and all situations. I wish there was more elaboration on dark toa, like if Ahkmou became the shadow toa he was supposed to be and finally see a dark side to him.

[Tilius]

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Edited April 27, 2021 by Tilius

[Goldenguy]

Teridax was an AMAZING villian, every defeat got him closer to his goals, his plan was almost failproof, and he provided this quote "There are a thousand ways I could destroy you right now. And 941 of them hurt."Icarax was cool, strong and liked fighting, amazing.Antroz had a really cool desing, he respected Toa and gave this other awesome quote:"A handful of Toa? A handful of Toa stole the Mask of Light from Destral itself. Another prevented the conquest of Metru Nui, kept the Mask of Time from us, and even dared to imprison a Makuta! Still another — this very group — defeated Rahi, Rahkshi, and Bohrok swarms, and invaded Makuta Teridax's very lair. One thing I've learned is that you underestimate Toa — any Toa — at your own peril."Krika had potential, he was the perfect example of an Anti-villian and missed the days in which the name "Makuta" stood for protectors, instead of villians. The bad thing is that he, along wiht Icarax and Antroz, got killed too fast.Vezon was funny, Roodaka was clever, etc..

[Queen of Liars]

Now, I haven't really been keeping up to date with the Bionicle story since the beginning of '08 and I've forgotten a lot of it from before, but there are still villains that I remember, so there must be something about them.First, the obvious ones: Teridax and Roodaka. I think everyone else already explained well why they are good and memorable villains.The one other villain that I remember enough to comment on is Karzahni. Now, to me there are two distinct characters of Karzahni: one is the ruthless and insane ruler of his dystopia and the other is a washed up and rather generic, simple villain, and the distinction between the two of course is the Pit. The one I want to briefly talk about is the pre-Pit Karzahni.The insanity was quite a nice touch at the time, as at least as far as I recall there were no genuinely insane characters when he was first introduced, or at least not anywhere near to the same extent. I guess Vezon would be the closest once we were introduced to him, but until then that made Karzahni a very unique character. And not only was he insane, but he also had power and it's quite interesting to see the results of that, and I have to say I like how he built and made himself the ruler of this dystopian realm, where no one has an identity and everyone is a slave to him.

But every villain had their own charms and quirks. The Piraka were interesting to watch because they reminded me of the youths you'd see hanging around street corners, keying cars and just performing acts of random violence whilst listening to their blaring rap music.

And now the Piraka will always remind me of A Clockwork Orange. Actually wouldn't be surprised if they were at least a bit inspired by it. Not sure how I never saw the similarity before.

[Ballom Nom Nom]

Krika and Antroz. Although not too prominent in the story, they were both quite unique. Krika, for one, actually acknowledged jealousy for the Toa and others, unlike almost ever other Makuta, who only wanted to be generic pure evil villains.

"Do you know why we Makuta hate Toa so much? It's because you are what we could only pretend to be, once upon a time -- heroes who do good for no reward. And so we call you fools, and even slay you... because we could not be you."

Also, his offering Gali mercy when he realized how the Makuta in Karda Nui were doomed as pretty noble for a villain.Similarly, Antroz being a villain with a sense of honor was rather unique among Bionicle villains, being a rare Lawful-Evil character.~B~ Edited April 25, 2012 by Ballom

[ALVIS]

Thinking about it, I really like Vezon as a villain -- back when he was a sociopathic, riddle-speaking guardian in the Chamber of Life. After he got out and lost all his power and mystique, like so many other BIONICLE villains, he gained some awesome powers and revealed he could use masks, but then he degenerated into comic relief. A fusion of the "two" Vezon personas would create one of the most amazing anti-hero/villains EVER. I must get around to this in a fanfic...

[Peach 00]

Q1: Who was your favorite?Roodaka or Lariska. Their characters were manipulative and possessed a devious, very feminine characteristic about them. Lariska I thought was cool because her character had a mechanical arm, which was a good characteristic or addition to experiment with in a character. Roodaka was great because of Tekulo's reasons: Venomous, manipulative, deceiving, and a traitor to most she interacted with. Therefore, she's awesome. Q2: Did they lack anything?I believe neither lacked much, although Lariska lacked coverage in the story, I think. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think she should have had a more significant role in the storyline, not to mention be made into a set. She would have been quite interesting in set-form.Q3: Who would you play poker with to help you cheat?...I've never cheated before in poker.