Raph

5 hours ago, TERIDAX941 said:

I'm 30, and I have almost all of my old collection still (and now more besides)!

I still tinker with them, build a moc or two and then tear those apart and build the original characters again, but mostly I'm saving my collection for my son when he's old enough. I have all of the comics and books as well which I'm planning on sharing with him as well, so I'm totally okay with keeping my collection to pass on to him.

I was thinking same thing. Save them for my children.

16 hours ago, That Matoran with a Vahi said:

Not all of them. I sold a lot of my collection while I was at university, several years ago now, because I wasn't using them and wanted to free up space in my room. While there are a few that I do wish, in hindsight, I hadn't been quite so hasty to get rid of, for the most part I don't regret it; I'd rather them having gone to people who enjoyed them rather than just sitting around in a box never getting looked at like most of them would have if I'd kept them.

Even then, though, I still kept my old favourites: the classic Toa, the Mask of Light protagonist sets, several Matoran, Muaka & Kane-Ra, and a couple of others - and I'm happy with my decision to do so. They were a big part of my childhood, and I'd feel like I was losing a little something of myself it I let go of those last few. I don't do much with them, but I have some of them on display, and the rest stored away for days when I feel particularly nostalgic.

For context, I'm 30, as well. I don't think that you need to feel embarrassed or ashamed for keeping them around, if that's what you want to do; if you still enjoy them, even if that is just on a nostalgic level, then you're not 'too old' for them, in my book.

 

That said, I'm pretty sure you could get something for your sets on eBay if you do decide to go that route. Bionicle stuff seems to command high prices there these days, even when used... certainly higher than they were when I sold mine back then!

Thanks. I will tell you most barbaric thing ever said on this forum)))) I had 2004 Toa Vakama and Onewa, Turaga Vakama, Gahlok, Takanuva 2008, Takanuva 2010, Avak, Dekar, Defilak, Ehlek, Gaaki, Malum, Mata Nui. Out of these Vakama Oneva Vakama, Gahlok, and Malum were given away without my knowledge year ago, and my Avak, Ehlek and Mata Nui, Takanuva 2010, and Takanuva 2008 sets fell apart because of 2006-2009 joint socket quality.........i had to trow them away back in 2017 mainly because they were not worth anything, and i did not want to waste time to sell them. Now i feel little bit of regret, but hey, what's done is done. I keep my Bionicle remaining sets mostly for nostalgia. They are nostalgic for me too. And i feel pretty much same as you do, they were part of my childhood. Especially my Kopaka. He is my first toa. I see what i do with them.

2 hours ago, Sidrohan said:

 

@Raph

It depends on who you are, what you do with your time, and what's of value to you. Me, I'm nearing thirty and collect toys. I photograph them, customize them, sometimes do short stop motions... they're one of my happy places. So I still have all of my old Bionicles. In fact I'm just now weeding through them, because I don't need those extra Bohrok I picked up in a thrift store lot, or the Toa Hordika I wasn't into, but got in an Ebay parts bag. I found a local Lego shop in a town about two hours away that will undoubtedly underpay me only to overcharge someone else, but I don't mind because: Small business + Getting it into the hands of someone who will love it + No online fees and shipping = Win-win.

 

However if you no longer feel the need to hold onto your Bionicles and don't want to donate them to a thrift store, you could try selling them on a site like Bricklink? Titan Mata Nui and Makuta fetch pretty good prices, I think, and playwear is to be expected.

Good luck with your thing)). I guess i can try to sell them. I dont know any thrift stores in my city, but i see what i can do.  But i'll keep at least Kopaka, because he is my first Bionicle. Thank you. It gets me little comfortable.

As i'm getting older, i cannot help but think, that i need to do something with my Bionicle. But i wonder, do any of you guys still have your Bionicle sets? I'm asking because im getting 30 soon, and i feel little bit of discomfort, cuz i chouldn't keep 7+ sets. Especially because i have only 5 Toa Mata sets and thier canisters, Makuta titan form, and Titan Mata Nui. I don't think they would be interested to anyone since they are all in used condition. That brings little shame on me, because i'm 30 years old, and still have Bionicle sets.

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On 9/11/2022 at 8:59 AM, (-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) said:

So it probably checks first word needs more needs more than 3 letters in a title. And symbols like -  completely ignored?

Probably. 

On 3/23/2017 at 7:33 PM, Toa Super Nuva said:

I've got these sets at a local store recently, mainly for their masks. Parts which attach to ball joints (like chest and leg shields) can be swapped with Lego parts. Sets have various colors, it may differ from what's pictured on the box. But feet seem to have universal color, kind of a mix of gold and brown, like a bronze. 

 

 

 

 

 

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their boxes have logo style similar to Toy Story logo

It's a matter of time, if you ask me. Bionicle was great toy line for its time, and generation. But certainly there would be more successfull franchises in the future.

On 8/27/2022 at 10:53 PM, InkAlchemist1994 said:

Resin cast -- I don't recall who made it, probably socketball

Never mind, i found the answer

On 6/8/2022 at 12:11 AM, InkAlchemist1994 said:

I finished posted my Kanohi collection to Instagram, so I wanted to share it with everyone here. To my knowledge, it's the most complete collection in North America (but if I'm wrong, please correct me). You can zoom in on Flickr, but I'd really appreciate it if you liked, shared, and followed me on Instagram!

And if you have any masks that I'm missing and you're willing to part with them, please DM me!

Instagram Posts:

• Whole Collection
• Part 1 (Mata and Nuva)
• Part 2 (Matoran, Ultra Rares, and Customs)
• Part 3 (G2, Metru, Hordika, Inika, Mahri, 2008 Nuva)
• Close Up of my three rarest masks

 

None of these are for sale/trade, so please don't ask.

Where did you get translucent yellow Ignika? Did you made it by yourself, or it was promotional mask?

Thank you.

I was wondering, why is Spartan Minifigure is so expensive? Is it because of it's rarity, or because something else?

2 hours ago, Nato G said:

You'll know it if/when you see it.

It'll be completely off-topic, probably trying to sell something, possibly not even in English. 

oh...ok.

Don't mind it. Do not take it personally. Not all of the fans are like that. I once had a post about quality of joint sockets of 2007-2009 that tey are worse than those of 2001-2005. Some people were like you said, called me hater, or like that, but some were civil, and we had normal conversation. Generally, almost every time i ask something here, people are answering normaly, and explaining some stuff i dont know.

How do i understand if it is a bot? For example, how can i understand that the topic is started by a bot? I just never encountered one here.

Perhaps they have had initial plans from the beggining, but changed them since.

I see. Thanks.

On 8/24/2022 at 11:30 PM, Lorentz said:

Copying other people's success is the easiest way of making money. Just look at Apple, Tesla, (and also Edison, lol), most fast food restaurants, etc.

Sad, but you're right.

Hi again gathered friends. Listen again my question about Bionicle. I noticed, that in Bionicle universe there are no wheels. At least i didn't see them not in comic books, not in the movies. I remember that when i watched Bionicle 2, in the scene when Vakama Nokama and Matau are going to Canyon of Unending whisper to free thier friends they are travelling in some sort of multipedal wehicle. Now, i strictly remember that on some old forum, if i would be able to provide the link i will, Greg mentioned that when Bob Thompson was in charge of Bionicle story team, he established some rules, one of which was that there are no wheels used in Bionicle, at least not in MU. Now my question is, do any of you have any particular anwer, as to why this rule was established?

On 8/22/2022 at 11:15 PM, Xboxtravis said:

In the case of what Wikipedia is mentioning its the patent for the original Lego brick. Patents in US law at least only last 20 years, with the possibility to extend it somewhat through new innovations. Patents are meant to expire, to allow the inventor a brief monopoly but then allow competition by recreating specific parts. Lego has tried to fight imitators, but if copycat systems aren't using any active Lego patents there is nothing stopping them from recreating basic 2x4 or 2x2 bricks quite easily and legally. Hence why Mega Construct/Blocks is a thing for example. In theory any patents for Bionicle pieces that Lego made in the late 1990's or early 2000's now might be expired so legally speaking, if one was aware of what patents were tied to Bionicle it would be 100% possible to recreate those parts.

BUT, patents cover mechanical designs and IP of constructs. IP gets hazier in regards to the creative ideals. Copyright for example covers individual creative works, so in the case of Lego it would cover Bionicle's comics, games, books and music, etc. The law in the US at least traditionally covers the author's lifetime and then 70 years after their death. Upon the expiration of that time those works can enter public domain. So while we might have some expired patents to recreate Bionicle parts legally, we cannot say market those parts by including say "Each copy of our Bionicle bootlegs comes with a disk with Legends of Metru-Nui on it" since that is still protected under active copyright law.

The strongest element in Bionicle's arsenals of IP protection though is trademark. Trademark if in active use, can be extended indefinitely. Ever wonder why, even in years with zero Bionicle sets the reason Lego continues to include Bionicle references in their stickers, mentions Bionicle on social media or includes this disclaimer at the end of their website?



Simple, in a legal court that proves Lego is maintaining the trademark to Bionicle. Bionicle is in active use, even with no new sets in the theme because Lego can prove they are still using the name somehow. As long as they do such in the US law, Bionicle will be protected forever. 

So in the year 2074, when all the patents are expired and we can include a copy of the "public domain" Legends of Metru-Nui with our Bionicle knockoff, we still can't call it a Bionicle set because if Lego is savvy and still active they will have the trademark still! 

Now this comes with a caveat, I have mentioned already "as in US law." Similar laws exist in Europe and other parts of the world, but China has no such law or at least refuses to really enforce it. So, the knock-offs continue regardless. Sure Lego could attempt to have ports inspect cargo and seize and destroy any inbound knock-off sets into the US or Europe, but that is really such a time consuming process its not worth their time. As for enforcing it in China itself, its near impossible although Lego has tried to shut down some of the bigger knock-off brands.

But, ironically that same Lego disdain towards chasing knock-offs is the same thing that protects a lot of fan creations. Every piece of fan art, those custom resin masks from Socketball or Zios, those fan Bionicle t-shirts and stickers, etc... every single one of them is likely in violation of trademark, copyright or patent law (or all three!) Lego's decision not to pursue legal action against those creations is more a sign of good faith than anything, and an understanding that some guy making $100 on a fan t-shirt set is not any sort of competition to the multi-million industry Lego runs. Arguably the only ones that fall under a "fair use" argument is something like BioMediaProject since you could argue there is an "educational" and "research" reason to preserve the media there, but if they ever decided to start selling say MNOG on a disk Lego would hit them with a lawsuit fast. But everybody in the fan community needs to understand that the only reason we get away with it is because Lego just views it as too small to compete with them and ruin their finances, just like those knock-off bricks. 

Thanks for such a detailed response. Indeed it is ironical that it protects some fans. But my thought, if we may call it that way, is not that i want for LEGO to somehow press on fans who use thier products to print aforementionet prints for example. It's just for me as a fan of original BIONICLE series, is somewhat unpleasant to see that they are faking them. I mean, they can produce something on thier own. Why duplicate that, which is already exists? Only because it is simplier? Whell, if that makes some of them comfortable.....

13 hours ago, Lorentz said:

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He was laid off then. You were right. I wasn't able to read his post, because i wasn't registred on linkedin. I'm sorry.

On 8/20/2022 at 11:13 PM, Lorentz said:

If Greg had retired from Lego, he would have said so. No, he was laid off.

What makes you think so? As i see in this topic, he just said that his journey with LEGO may come to an end. It does not mean that he was laid off.

I think he just decided to leave LEGO on his own. It does not have to be so bad, him been kicked out by LEGO. The man has been writing and working with LEGO for 20 years. 20 YEARS. He just got tired. As for Bionicle, i agree, afther 2010 story, each and every of us just finished G1 with his\her own imagination. Personally for me Bionicle canon was never some restriction, but mere support for my creativity. Shame that some stories were left unfinishe thou.

7 hours ago, Starset said:

Well, maybe Dume was not under the impression that the vahki ''dealing'' with the matoran necessarely meant hurting them. It is also notable to say that at that moment in time, Shadow was not considered evil yet. It was going hand in hand with the Makuta species, which at that point were still allies(and very important figures in the universe).

If Makuta really deceived Dume in thinking the new Toa were truly impostors, then his sentence could simply be interpreted as :

''No, the mask isn't complete, but still, when you arrive in Metru-Nui (the great shadow), the Vahki will keep the matoran in line''. A little like how the cops keep the citizen in line during the visit of a notable figure, for diplomacy.

Eventually Dume may have understood Makuta's true intentions (or not) and was replaced then.

that may have some logic in it, considering what Turaga Lhikan said to Makuta: "Makuta! You were sworn to protect matoran" indicating that Makuta was a protector at the start. Maybe Makuta convinced Dume, that he needs Mask of time for some research purposes. Anyway, thanks. But i like to hear more theories.

I think it's because they have opposite elements to control.