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  1. I haven't yet, but I think eventually I want to get some. The quality of a lot of the recasts being sold has gotten so good that they look pretty much like the real deal, it's honestly really cool. And there's just something kind of magical about seeing the old maks in colors that were never produced but featured in MNOG or other media.

    And I don't think the legality is much of an issue, the quantities being sold are comparatively small and it's not like Lego is selling these masks themselves anymore.

  2. On 3/17/2024 at 3:25 AM, Nato G said:

    Services like Shapeways do use SLS, though, and allow you to upload your own files for purchase. It wouldn't take more than ten minutes of effort to extract a Shadow Leech file from Stud.io or another program, scale it to the correct size, and upload it.

    Counterpoint: because of their small size, Shadow Leeches would be one of the more cost-effective things for scammers to make fakes of. And I imagine Shadow Leech prototypes are less well-documented than the more sought-after collectibles like Kanohi and Kraata, making it easier to pass off a fake. 

    You're right about that, I mentioned your last point as a possibility in my post as well (doesn't explain the Tridax Pod though, since that's completely different from the production part). But then again, the original poster themselves weren't even trying to sell these off as protoypes. So it's just really weird situation overall.

    I've sometimes seen people dismiss genuine (that we know to be legit) prototypes as "fake" because of them featuring printed parts and some people immediately take that as an indication of them being fan made or fraudulent. But you're right, these look like they could also be from Shapeways and admittedly, the print lines on these look less noticeable than for example the Lewa Axalara prototype parts from Toy Fair.

    Comparing the print from the images with the shadow leech mesh from Stud.io though (at least the one I have installed, from the Biopack/Stud.io pack), I'm not sure it's the same model, and I'm a little inclined to say that it is not. The Stud.io mesh is really lowpoly (it just looks smooth in stud.io because it's smooth shaded, which makes no difference to the actual geometry of the mesh when you print it), especially in the back, and even though the print is small, the back hull is still super round in the print and you don't see any of the faceting that is present in the Stud.io model. I'm pretty sure at least some of that jaggedness would show through.

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    There's also a few other details that don't seem to match up exactly, like the fins having rounded off edges in the print, but being sharp on the stud.io model. I know Shapeways offers a polished SLS method where the print gets some of the surface finish removed, so that might explain the edges being more rounded, but from my experience printing with them, I doubt it would be able to clean the lowpoly jaggedness up to this extent. But who knows, it could also just be a custom or modified version of the model.

    That being said, the Tridax pod is still really weird as it seems to be a completely unique mesh, and doesn't match up with the Stud.io one at all. Both the outside decoration as well as the inside structure are completely different (plus the same issue with lowpoly geometry as the stud.io shadow leech). The pod is honestly the most notable part about this whole thing to me that makes me think there could be something to this. I also wasn't able to find a Tridax pod model that looks like this online anywhere 🤷‍♂️

    But hey, I could also be completely wrong, it's just some things that stood out to me. Still think it would be interesting to get more images from the new owner if they're willing to share some and be able to take a better look.

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  3. Idk, personally I find the thought of someone going out of their way to produce fake prototypes for... shadow leeches, of all pieces, a fair bit weirder than the possibility of them actually popping up from somebody who had ties to Lego in some official capacity. What's even weirder to me is the Tridax pod, it's not just a print of the file you can get from Stud.io or whatever, it's an actual different design with a different pattern. This sort of stuff lines up with how Lego develops their parts and prototypes them. I feel like if someone went out of their way to do that modeling work and make some money off tricking people into thinking these were prototypes, they would try a lot harder in their wording to convince people.

    My point being, the way these were apparently produced lines up with how Lego develops and prototypes new parts (including the sloppy paint jobs, lol) and this would be far from the first time that stuff like this somehow made it into collectors hands. But you're right of course in that there isn't really a way to verify the legitimacy of these just going off these images. If these are fake, maybe that person went for shadow leeches because they thought those would be less scrutinized for their authenticity than something like a prototype Kanohi?

    Who knows, I just think it'd be really weird if someone went out of their way to model a (seemingly pretty nicely modeled) Tridax pod variant that isn't based on any known concept art or protoype, badly paint it blue, for some reason? and then try to pass it off as real.

  4. 17 hours ago, Gallaver said:

    The stuff looks like what you could make on a home 3d printer. As far as I could find lego prints in its own plastics and does paint parts.

    You described them as feeling like being made of sand, which fits the properties of a part made using an SLS printer, which is exactly the type of printer Lego would have used to make prototypes at the time and not a type of printer available for home use (even today). Considering where you got it from, it's likely that it is a legitimate prototype.

    As for the blue pod half, do you know when they acquired that part? It was released in a black/blue marbled pattern with a Hero Factory set in 2010, which it looks like it might be in the image. If it's pure blue and they got it before the HF set release though, that could be a mold test, possibly acquired alongside the proto leech?

  5. 2 hours ago, Aiden said:

    Interesting, I don’t know much about printing. I’d still be really interested in talking to the person myself though, if not to confirm to myself they are not real. I think the ones I have are spray painted, but coooould be powdered?

    The powder part was referring to the printing process, they were still likely spray painted after being printed in the usual white Nylon material

    3 hours ago, tourmalinex said:

    I think they are fake....?

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    Do they have any images of the blue SLS leeches? Honestly doesn't sound like that unlikely of a story on its own, but some more evidence would be nice. We've heard of prototype masks that were given to individuals at Toy Fairs before afaik.

  6. 3 hours ago, Aiden said:

    To answer your question they do, several pieces in the trade show prototype Axalara were 3D printed, two being the adapted Miru and it’s HUD.

    Keep in mind though that those parts are SLS printed (fusing Nylon powder with a laser), not FDM prints like tourmalinex mentioned. Not that Lego may have never used FDM for prototyping, but the parts we saw used for Toy Fair prototypes around that time were spray painted SLS prints usually.

    Maybe there is some more context that could shine light on these? Were these (allegedly) given out to trade show visitors?

  7. Is there any info on pricing for the Inside Tour exclusive transparent blue Mask of Water from 2015? I don't see any sold items on Bricklink and don't think there is a consensus on what would be considered a fair price for one, since I'm guessing it sells fairly rarely. I know that Duckbricks spent around 2.5k on his, but I don't know if that's representative of what the mask is actually worth.

  8. Hi there!

    I'm looking to sell this Toa Mata Nui set I have, it is missing a few pieces (not the Mask though!) and still has the original box (european version) along with the instruction booklets.

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    The mask unfortunately has a dent mark on one side, but otherwise is in an alright condition. Please take a look at the images linked further down to get an idea of what it looks like. The box shows its age in some spots, but is generally intact.

    More images here

    As for the missing parts, from what I could tell it's the keetorange shoulder blades and the Thornax projectile, seems to be pretty complete to me apart from that, but please look at the images for more details.

    If you are interested simply post here or shoot me a message with an offer and we can discuss details! Shipping from Germany btw, but I should be able to send outside of Europe as well.

  9. Hello,

    I'm selling the following three sets:

     

    8996 Skopio XV-1

    8998 Toa Mata Nui

    8995 Thornatus V9

     

    The Vehicle sets are missing their respective pilots and a few smaller parts. Toa Mata Nui's golden Ignika unfortunately has a small dent mark around its cheek. I'll be adding photos of the sets later.

    I'm located in Germany so I would prefer shipping these within Europe, but if you're outside of Europe we can work something out aswell.

    If you're interested feel free to post here or send me a PM!

     

    Edit: 

    I forgot to list 8994 Baranus V7, which is also missing its driver.

  10. This really took me by surprise and I still don't really know how to feel about this, but here are a couple of my thoughts.

    I don't think a lot of us expected the theme to go on after 2017 with all those rumors going around, but seeing it not even get its third year to wrap up the story as it was planned is just really sad. I really think the theme had a lot of potential that just wasn't done justice in its presentation. When I look at the concept art by Matt Betteker I see a rich, atmospheric world that has a sense of awe to it. I also think the plot brought some really interesting, new ideas to the table. But I feel like none of that really carried over to any of the media we got. It's like they built this expansive world and only showed us much as they needed, when there was so much more to it. I was hoping we would see a lot more in the coming year (or possibly years) because some of the plot points they hinted at seemed cool, with the mask of time playing a role and whatnot. 

    The sets were some of the best constraction sets we've ever gotten in my opinion and I hope they continue to expand on the CCBS. It would be a shame if we didn't get a new CCBS IP, but I'll guess we'll have to wait and see about that. I doubt that they had enough time to develop a new IP to release this coming winter.

     

    Although I can't say I'm really satisfied with how it ended, I think Bionicle had a decent second run, with a lot of unused potential. I'm sure the team behind the reboot did the best they could do with the resources they had available and I'm really grateful for their work. It's also nice to hear that we will still be getting updates from their social media and on the official website and I think the Makuta Moc contest is a nice way to wrap it all up. 

    It's been a fun two years and I'm looking forward to what the future might bring.

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  11. I think the most disappointing thing about all of this is that we expected the line to last for at least three years. Sure, there were rumors going around but I don't think anyone really expected the line to end this soon. 

    Back when G1 ended, we at least knew that it would ahead of time. This time around we got the announcement on the very day it actuall happened.

    It's a shame that we won't get to see it end the way it was originally planned, with all the plot points they hinted at in the novels and animations.

     

    What I'm most afraid of is the fate of the CCBS though. Lego will keep producing it, I'm sure, I just really, really hope that we won't end up getting only Star Wars or CCBS spin-offs based on already existing System themes. I feel like the CCBS has so much potential that it would be a waste to not give it its own IP.

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  12. I mean, they even designed and MOLDED the MoUP just to what? 

     

    The Moup we saw in the contest video was a 3D printed prototype, not an actual production piece. They probably don't have a mold for mass production.

    But it really does suck that we won't be getting it, really liked the design.

  13. I have found a local printer that has near prefect pearl gold plastic and a transparent purple plastic for my friend’s mask of creation and kaukau.I am still going to look for a real PGK as well.

     

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    Just a tip before you print these models; you might want to subdivide them because otherwise you will be able to see the individual polygons on the print. Setting the shading to smooth won't change how the print looks.

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