LimeFlavouredLibertarian24

I swore I'd stay out of this, but what. What. "You disagree with me and bring up valid points that disavow my (baseless) argument? Oh, yeah, you secretly agree with me, but don't want to admit it." I and countless others who have refuted your baseless claims that you never back up with any evidence have said that Bionicle is doing pretty ###### well here in Europe, and there are some people in the US who also say Bionicle is doing well where they are. Instead of refuting this with some kind of cultured argument, you just say we lie? Congrats, mate, grade A debating skills you have there. I risk repeating myself, but where in any of your openly hostile posts have you ever brought up anything resembling evidence backing up your claims? When have you ever issued a reply to someone disagreeing with you in a civil manner wherein you bring up logical counterpoints? So far all you have been doing across half a dozen threads is repeat that Bionicle is doing poorly, with zero evidence, and whenever several people come up with counterarguments with evidence and sources, the only response you give is "yeah, well, I don't care, I dislike G2 and therefore it is doing poorly.". All the passive-aggressive statements about how "we're all fooling ourselves" and we all "know it is doing poorly" just further embarrass you. Honestly, GSR, locking those two topics was a great idea, they were getting out of hand - but was making this one necessary? I mean, now we have all of the filth in one place, sure, but why do we want to keep said filth at all? This is pointless. One side is bringing up genuine points with sources, evidence and arguments, and the other side is just repeating "no, I don't like it therefore you are wrong". Of course, there are the few people trying to skirt both sides in an attempt to keep the discussion going in a civil direction, but honestly? I don't see the point. This thing ought to be locked, buried and forgotten before it gets even more out of hand. I really should just not look at it at all, lest I be once again drawn back into it... Wait! What are we talkin' about again? Isn't this suppose to be about g2's future and 2017 sets and what not?

The bright vibrant colours aren't hurting bionicle, they're giving people who make mocs more options...but they do need more recolours than they've done. The creatures are the best small sets bionicle and constraction have probably ever had. maybe they should axalara/thornatus sized sets because g2 and hf in general have suffered from having great/high piece count small sets and very low piece count big sets. Umarak the destroyer is a step in the right direction, but I think we need either more technic or a lot of ccbs in the future. General grievous has a great build and shows what ccbs can do, but lego only uses it for small sets and it's great to have small sets and mocs with knees and elbows, it can also be used to make giant structure and figures just like how you can stack bricks on top of each other, you can also attach one bone to another and perhaps make some cool stuff like custom torsos that only use bone pieces... What I'm saying is that bionicle needs to not be afraid to exceed their piece count limit of 200...they need to show what constarction can do with massive sized sets and builds. Also I hope they use the axle gear piece the creatures have in future sets for some other types of functions and builds. Maybe they can make 2001 rahi styled sets with high piece counts and awesome functions...but lego has to be able to escape their restrictions and fears of being too complex with their constraction sets While I certainly understand your point, the problem is that as a whole the sets are too vibrant. They contribute to a collection but you need softer colours like tan and non-shiny greys to balance things out or else it's all going to be a mess. One or two brightly coloured, ultra-vivid sets is good. Ten? Maybe a bit much. The problem is that pretty much all of them are that way. I remember back when the transparent you could ever get were eye pieces. Now they've finally become mainstream(well for constraction it has). What if they had more pieces blended into different colours like they did with the barraki(transparent black and keetongu yellow look so great when they're blended together) When you compare the toa metru, most of the toa mahri, the toa phantoka and the bohrok kal to most ccbs sets; you'll find that g1 later on had more consistent colour schemes that didn't have random limb pieces being gray or black Again, I see your point. The problem is that they don't have these things. I loved how they started introducing more transparent pieces around 2007, but nowadays the way they're used in sets is tacky/gimmicky. The first three years of G1 sets didn't have colours all over the place -they were very organized. They'd use a slightly lighter colour for limbs to break up it and prevent it from being monotonous. It wasn't random. It's like adding stripes on a spaceship to give it more flavor. I wouldn't say that current sets have "random" colours, merely ones that are too bright and too overdone. I'm a bit confused. What is pissing you off? I have yet to see any actual fighting in this topic, merely open sharing of opinions (some of which vary greatly). I think maybe all the separate topics are too similar to each other...do you think maybe we should combine some of them into one topic?

Do you think perhaps there will be ninjago constraction sets?

The bright vibrant colours aren't hurting bionicle, they're giving people who make mocs more options...but they do need more recolours than they've done. The creatures are the best small sets bionicle and constraction have probably ever had. maybe they should axalara/thornatus sized sets because g2 and hf in general have suffered from having great/high piece count small sets and very low piece count big sets. Umarak the destroyer is a step in the right direction, but I think we need either more technic or a lot of ccbs in the future. General grievous has a great build and shows what ccbs can do, but lego only uses it for small sets and it's great to have small sets and mocs with knees and elbows, it can also be used to make giant structure and figures just like how you can stack bricks on top of each other, you can also attach one bone to another and perhaps make some cool stuff like custom torsos that only use bone pieces... What I'm saying is that bionicle needs to not be afraid to exceed their piece count limit of 200...they need to show what constarction can do with massive sized sets and builds. Also I hope they use the axle gear piece the creatures have in future sets for some other types of functions and builds. Maybe they can make 2001 rahi styled sets with high piece counts and awesome functions...but lego has to be able to escape their restrictions and fears of being too complex with their constraction sets While I certainly understand your point, the problem is that as a whole the sets are too vibrant. They contribute to a collection but you need softer colours like tan and non-shiny greys to balance things out or else it's all going to be a mess. One or two brightly coloured, ultra-vivid sets is good. Ten? Maybe a bit much. The problem is that pretty much all of them are that way. I remember back when the transparent you could ever get were eye pieces. Now they've finally become mainstream(well for constraction it has). What if they had more pieces blended into different colours like they did with the barraki(transparent black and keetongu yellow look so great when they're blended together) When you compare the toa metru, most of the toa mahri, the toa phantoka and the bohrok kal to most ccbs sets; you'll find that g1 later on had more consistent colour schemes that didn't have random limb pieces being gray or black

Maybe because you can tell from a couple of pictures whether or not you will like a lot of sets. These aren't uber-complex sets which need to be played with hands on. So much of the "builds" for these sets are virtually identical. One does not need to purchase Umarak to consider it tacky/ugly/etc... As for the story, a huge part of the story for BIONICLE has always been in the books. That's nothing new. I haven't been following any of the online story, though, so if it is truly lacking then they are forgetting one of the key parts that made early BIONICLE so great - the accessibility of much of the story. I believe you're confusing a statement about the story (the golden masks are not worthless to the in-universe Toa) with a statement about the sets (there is new stuff so now my masks are pointless). G1 had many simple sets, sure, but the complexity of Muaka and Kane-ra, Cahdok & Gahdok, the Exo-Toa, Krekka, and the Boxor are leagues above and beyond anything from the new themes. And if you ignore the mechanical functions, the Skopio, any of the vehicles, Tuma, Maxilos, Brutaka, and Von Nebula (Hero Factory, but may as well be BIONICLE) are above and beyond anything in the new BIONICLE in terms of build experience. There is simply no comparison. You're not wrong. The masks did change every year. I believe what they're talking about is the first two/three years, where the masks were one of the central focuses of the story and remained static (note: the Nuva masks were merely improved versions of the old masks with the same properties so they can be included as well). Note, the section below is opinion. It is not fact, nor is it an attack on people who like G2 BIONICLE. Everyone is entitled to their tastes. My primary qualms with Bionicle G2 are the sets. Now, I'm not going to deny that I have a ###### of a lot of nostalgia for G1 (especially 2001-2002), but I also love sets from every year, excepting 2010 (which was just disappointing, not particularly interesting). BIONICLE had a lot of flaws and there were years were its sets just felt off but it rarely felt too tacky. G2? My god, it makes rappers look like beacons of taste. Every villain is crystally and busy and weird and it just doesn't work well. The trans colors are too vivid against the silvery[?] armor. The G2 Toa have a lot more going for them, but they too can fall into that tacky trap. Tahu and Kopaka have way more gold than they need, for example. I'm not saying that G2 is hopeless - far from it. Hero Factory was a mess when they introduced the CCBS and it didn't get much better (especially with the horrible villain construction evidenced by sets like Witch Doctor) and BIONICLE G2 is far, far better in many respects. However, it still suffers from the same issues with tackyness (too bright/shiny, too much shiny stuff, overuse/misuse of transparent parts just because they're cool by themselves). One thing I do like about G2 is the creatures - they're really neat and I definitely want a few. I can't give any good thoughts on whether or not BIONICLE G2 will continue because I haven't payed much attention to the theme's popularity or development, only the sets themselves. I can't say I care that much, either. I don't have all that much money and BIONICLE G2 is close to the bottom of my list of things I have any interest in buying. Until we get something as awesome as the Tarakava or the Manas I'm not going to pay too much attention to the theme beyond a slightly-more-than-cursory glance at the sets. Again, this is an opinion post. The bright vibrant colours aren't hurting bionicle, they're giving people who make mocs more options...but they do need more recolours than they've done. The creatures are the best small sets bionicle and constraction have probably ever had. maybe they should axalara/thornatus sized sets because g2 and hf in general have suffered from having great/high piece count small sets and very low piece count big sets. Umarak the destroyer is a step in the right direction, but I think we need either more technic or a lot of ccbs in the future. General grievous has a great build and shows what ccbs can do, but lego only uses it for small sets and it's great to have small sets and mocs with knees and elbows, it can also be used to make giant structure and figures just like how you can stack bricks on top of each other, you can also attach one bone to another and perhaps make some cool stuff like custom torsos that only use bone pieces... What I'm saying is that bionicle needs to not be afraid to exceed their piece count limit of 200...they need to show what constarction can do with massive sized sets and builds. Also I hope they use the axle gear piece the creatures have in future sets for some other types of functions and builds. Maybe they can make 2001 rahi styled sets with high piece counts and awesome functions...but lego has to be able to escape their restrictions and fears of being too complex with their constraction sets

Dude, if the story magically becomes cool to me that doesn't mean I'm going to buy the sets. The story and the sets are two completely different animals. What do you mean the story and sets are completely different? Is that suppose to mean one is better than the other?

So how exactly are 3d models made?

I went to brickfete yesterday and bought takua and pewku. Expect a review of it to be on my blog within a few days

Do knockoffs count as lookalikes?

I guess bionicle g2 is kind of in a situation that ninjago was in during 2012/2013 where it was about to be discontinued, but then a whole bunch of fans, little kids and parents called and yelled at lego to not cancel it...hopefully/maybe that'll happen to bionicle

Yup, that's the one! I actuallly am diagnosed with OCD. Part of it is that everything I have is arranged or alphabetized. I'm kind of ocd as well, but I have autism- anyways what do you think we're gonna get as a wave of sets this winter(2017)?

My local lego store isn't even selling bionicle anymore and they reduced the price of the star wars constraction sets that came out earlier this year

I really want to know if anyone's willing to be part of the bring back bionicle again group if bionicle is cancelled again and I'm wondering if you think it'll be brought again if it is cancelled. http://www.strawpoll.me/10698873

Maybe the fact that over 390 people have answered my strawpoll shows that there's at least 390 bionicle fans(but that's most from tumblr, google plus, wikia, reddit)

Same as what I've written in several other threads - I've personally seen a rather large stock of the summer sets being on the shelves of various toy stores here in Hungary, I've seen them disappear in a week and get restocked. I've seen this repeat multiple times. I've also seen this with the previous waves. Europe also got an exclusive Bionicle magazine, and no company in their right mind would release a mag for an unpopular toy line. Add to that numerous other BZPower users reporting signs of high popularity in Europe, and you have something pretty definitive. I hope bionicle doesn't become an exclusive only for europe like they did with the chima ultrabuilds from 2014...constraction seems to be slowing dying in front of us and it's very saddening to me

System/minifigures shouldn't be near constraction in the future in my opinion...they completely defiled hero factory with invasion and below and hf prior to that was already a mediocre/terrible theme to begin with(ccbs was a great idea though)

/thread. Though, I assume you wish to hear personal speculative opinions. In that case, I'm pretty convinced G2 will have a run until 2020/2021 or so. I give it 5 years at least. Don't believe the doomsayers. 90% of what they say has no basis in fact and the remaining 10% is misinterpreted and exaggerated. The line isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Sounds like bionicle will be around for as long as hero factory did, why do you think bionicle would be around an extra 2 years and do you think it's because in those 2 extra years, they'll be putting a lot of work into some brand new theme to replace it? 5 years is just a guess, and by no means an educated one - just a gut feeling. It really depends on (global!) sales though. I imagine that when they axe G2 Bionicle, it will again be replaced by another constraction line. There is about 0% chance for a Hero Factory G2 coming along, thankfully. Maybe Nexo Knights CCBS, or something entirely new. My strawpoll just got over 300 votes...also do you think there's a chance that if bionicle is discontinued again that it'll increase the number of star wars constraction sets? Possibly? Star Wars constraction seems to be doing well as it is, and if I'm not mistaken, the system based Star Wars sets are infinitely more popular. Making constraction Star Wars exclusive on the other hand would be a poor business choice. If they oversaturate it in one line that has plenty of system sets, it would hurt sales I reckon (though I'm no expert). Someone rather elaborately explained why Lego needs at least two constraction lines going even if one is doing poorly in order to maximize sales and minimize expenditure, but I can't for the life of me who and in which thread, but it was on BZP. Point is, Bionicle likely won't be cancelled for a while now due to good sales in Europe, even if Star Wars constraction out-sells it. However, even if Bionicle is shot down, another line will replace it to accompany Star Wars. I highly doubt Hero Factory will return. It never did do well back in the day, did it? Plus, it doesn't have any brand recognition, unlike Bionicle. They might as well keep the same "sci-fi heroes versus various thematic villains" but slap a different name on it. No one would notice. What proof do you have that bionicle is doing well in europe?

/thread. Though, I assume you wish to hear personal speculative opinions. In that case, I'm pretty convinced G2 will have a run until 2020/2021 or so. I give it 5 years at least. Don't believe the doomsayers. 90% of what they say has no basis in fact and the remaining 10% is misinterpreted and exaggerated. The line isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Sounds like bionicle will be around for as long as hero factory did, why do you think bionicle would be around an extra 2 years and do you think it's because in those 2 extra years, they'll be putting a lot of work into some brand new theme to replace it? 5 years is just a guess, and by no means an educated one - just a gut feeling. It really depends on (global!) sales though. I imagine that when they axe G2 Bionicle, it will again be replaced by another constraction line. There is about 0% chance for a Hero Factory G2 coming along, thankfully. Maybe Nexo Knights CCBS, or something entirely new. My strawpoll just got over 300 votes...also do you think there's a chance that if bionicle is discontinued again that it'll increase the number of star wars constraction sets?

/thread. Though, I assume you wish to hear personal speculative opinions. In that case, I'm pretty convinced G2 will have a run until 2020/2021 or so. I give it 5 years at least. Don't believe the doomsayers. 90% of what they say has no basis in fact and the remaining 10% is misinterpreted and exaggerated. The line isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Sounds like bionicle will be around for as long as hero factory did, why do you think bionicle would be around an extra 2 years and do you think it's because in those 2 extra years, they'll be putting a lot of work into some brand new theme to replace it?

I've been wondering what the bionicle fandom in general thinks will happen after the 3rd year of bionicle(2017), so I made a straw poll to see what the fans think and I'd like to see what you all think could happen with some specifics/examples http://www.strawpoll.me/10657151

Bionicle G2's future seems uncertain as of lately, so I'm just wondering what the fandom in general thinks will happen to bionicle after 2017

I'm just curious about which one of these themes you all think is the best

I wonder if we'll get small sets with extra masks and addons(almost like mask packs), but the small sets won't be islanders, but instead small villians...what are the odds of that? Also, this entire idea of having armour instead of small sets kind of reminds me of something mega bloks would do because they tend to have kits/sets that have specific types of minifigures and armour. But...hopefully it would be more like 2001-2003 when they had mask packs except this time you'll know what masks you're getting and you won't just get 2 or 3 of them

I HATED TAHU'S NEUTRAL COLOURED BONES, IT SHOWED THAT LEGO WANTED TO SAVE MONEY ON RECOLOURS. YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MANY BRIGHT COLOURS, THAT'S JUST COMMON SENSE TO ME. AT LEAST TAHU'S MORE DETAILED AND G1 LOOKING THAN HIS 2015 VERSION. ALSO I LOVE THE ORANGE ON GALI, IT LOOKS A LOT BETTER THAN HER GUNMETAL IN 2015

Tahu and Onua's colour schemes look so perfect in 2016. Tahu 2015's colour scheme was a trainwreck, he had silver hands and feet and black and gray bones, his bones should look like lava, not black/gray. Onua looks so much better colour scheme wise in 2016 because he doesn't have as much silver. Blended masks feel more collectible to me and they look like they're filled with POWER