So...is "Bionicles" now valid?

[Lewa0111 Nuva]

So I was thinking the other day, and given that (as far as we know) New!Bionicle is a completely separate storyline/timeline/universe/whatever from Old!Bionicle, does this not make use of the word "Bionicles" now valid if referring to both old and new Bionicle?

 

Bionicle stands for "Biological (or Biomechanical) Chronicle." The old 2001-2010 storyline could thus be considered a single chronicle, or one Bionicle. The 2015+ storyline, since it is still labeled "Bionicle," is therefore a second Biological Chronicle. So, based on this logic, the correct term for more than one chronicle is "chronicles," and the term for more than one Bionicle is "Bionicles." 15 years, and that word is only NOW grammatically correct.

 

...Of course, using "Bionicles" to refer to multiple Bionicle SETS or CHARACTERS is still, and will always be, 100% wrong.

 

Lewa0111 Nuva
 

[The 1st Shadow]

I'm gonna have to say...

 

NO.

 

The word just sounds wrong. Even if there are now two of them to talk about.

[Rooster Nui]

I'm not sure if it is valid either, but it still doesn't sound right. I'm okay with "Bonkles", but not that.

[25K Now!]

The use of Bionicles still sounds pretty painful.

 

But I suppose you could use it?

[Toa of Gallifrey]

We're not positive this one will be Biological Chronicle as well (it likely is but we're not 100% sure, and with the very probable lack of a GSR they'd have to make it as such another way). Still, as Bionicle is a portmanteau I'd say it should be both singular and plural at once. Of course, anyone's free to use the word as they like but I'll remain referring to Bionicle in the plural as "Bionicle sets/characters" or "Bonkles".

[bioniclepluslotr]

I don't think this thread needs to exist over one letter. I've been saying Bionicles for 14 years, if you don't like it, tell me and I'll leave the site because I'm not changing the way I say it.

Edited December 30, 2014 by bioniclepluslotr

[Tuuli]

Thanks for the enlightenment

[bonesiii]

This title seems a bit misleading... but probably on purpose?

 

Yes, technically Bionicles as "multiple biological chronicles" is valid, and always was, BTW. One tablet Takua wrote could be called one Bionicle, so two about two different events could technically be two Bionicles. But virtually nobody ever used it that way except me as a joke about the normal use. (One of my pet peeve creature art pics was of multiple living tablets; Bionicles. )

 

But Bionicles as the characters/sets is still not really valid. But people can use it for fun anyways, heh.

[Chro]

If you're referring to the plural Bionicle stories, it'd be technically acceptable, although it doesn't necessarily make sense to use it. Nobody refers to "the Legends of Zelda" for example.

 

I've been saying Bionicles for 14 years, if you don't like it, tell me and I'll leave the site because I'm not changing the way I say it.

k bye

[Blueblur21]

I have to disagree. My parents and siblings use Bionicles to tease me constantly and it's annoying. It will always be 'Bionicle' or LEGO Bionicle' to me.

[Kopekemaster]

Grammatically, yes.

I say Bionicle, and Bionicles. I don't really have a whole lot of a preference. It's kind of like how you're technically supposed to say LEGO bricks, not LEGOs. **shrugs**

I don't think it's that big an issue. But for the purpose the OP stated, yeah, it's correct.

[Toa Smoke Monster]

It's always going to be just 'Bionicle' to me. 'Bionicles' just doesn't sound right when I say it, though that may be from hearing it said as 'Bionicle' for the last 15 years. 

 

I have no problem with people saying 'Bionicles.' I just won't be using it.

[Sumiki]

"Bionicles" is informal, kind of like "bonkles." I personally try not to take any toy line seriously enough to be a stickler about proper ways of referring to it, so I'm fine with pretty much any usage.

[LegoSWfan]

I don't mind the word "bionicles". In the same way I don't mind two transformer continuities reffered to collectively as "transformers". Or a pile of bricks reffered to as "legos".

[2Tie]

Bionicles no, Bonkles yes!

[fishers64]

"the two Bionicles." Yeah, sure, why not? "It's like the two Bionicles..."

[northmarch]

That's like saying Bugs Bunny Is a Rubbot.

Bionicle is the plural term. There is no variance. No representation of the Matoran, or any other language within Bionicle has ever suggested a variant of any term exists for referencing plural. Same goes for any official use as a title.

 

Normally I would say 'to each their own' but NO.

[bonesiii]

Bionicle is the plural term. There is no variance. No representation of the Matoran, or any other language within Bionicle has ever suggested a variant of any term exists for referencing plural. Same goes for any official use as a title.

"Bionicle" isn't a word in the Matoran language; it's "part translated". They have the concept of a biological chronicle in-universe, but as they don't have the English words, the word they use is likely something else entirely. And the plural for English-word things in Bionicle is s (Ussal crabs, for example). So, that logic doesn't work, sorry. The "no plural s" rule has nothing to do with why "Bionicles" is normally inaccurate to canon. (For beings.)

[Xarok]

I always said Bionicles. I know it sounds stupid, but the term Bionicle is hardly even cannon (they only say it in the films as far as I remember) so it doesn't really bug me.

Edited December 31, 2014 by Xarok

[Lewa0111 Nuva]

Thanks for the discussion, everyone! Yeah I still hate the idea of referring to multiple characters/sets/whatever as "Bionicles" because you're technically calling the characters Biological Chronicles. And I'd love to see those living tablets, bonesiii. That reminds me of a comedy I read where the narrator says something like "The door opened and a mob of Bionicles trampled Matau" and then Matau wonders why he just got trampled by a mob of biological chronicles.

 

I guess in the end, to each their own, but it would be nice to have a way to refer collectively to both "Old!Bionicle" and "New!Bionicle" together, to differentiate between referring to a group of Bionicle characters or sets together. And also, where did "Bonkles" come from? Never heard that one before...

 

Lewa0111 Nuva

[Crunchyn]

if it's "Bionicles," no. However, if it's "BIONICLEs," yes. (Yes, there's clearly a difference )

[The 1st Shadow]

 

I guess in the end, to each their own, but it would be nice to have a way to refer collectively to both "Old!Bionicle" and "New!Bionicle" together, to differentiate between referring to a group of Bionicle characters or sets together. And also, where did "Bonkles" come from? Never heard that one before...

 

Lewa0111 Nuva

It's a recent thing. Where it came from, I have no idea--though I do hope it decides to go back.  

[LegoSWfan]

"Bonkles" was always a stupid word.

[Aanchir]

"Bonkles" was always a stupid word.

That's the exact reason people use it. It's a way for BIONICLE fans to poke fun at their beloved franchise. I have never seen anybody use the word "Bonkles" in complete seriousness.

[LegoSWfan]

That's why I don't like it.

[Dorek]

"Bionicles" has always been valid because the only people who will correct you are pedantic fans way outside the target age range.

 

THAT SAID

 

An interesting grammar question; I'd say yes in terms of something like bones pointed out; referring to the totality, you'd probably say something like "the BIONICLE lines" rather than "the BIONICLEs".

[Aanchir]

"Bionicles" has always been valid because the only people who will correct you are pedantic fans way outside the target age range.

Or your corporate higher-ups, if you work for LEGO.

[bohrokman]

I don't think this thread needs to exist over one letter. I've been saying Bionicles for 14 years, if you don't like it, tell me and I'll leave the site because I'm not changing the way I say it.

So happy-cheer

"Bionicles" has always been valid because the only people who will correct you are pedantic fans way outside the target age range.

 

THAT SAID

 

An interesting grammar question; I'd say yes in terms of something like bones pointed out; referring to the totality, you'd probably say something like "the BIONICLE lines" rather than "the BIONICLEs".

I'm 13 and all correct you

[Xabla]

I have always said, "Bionicles"

[Nidhiki of the Shadows]

Lol all I can think of is bonkles... Sorry, I will never use "Bionicles" for that reason.

 

-NotS