Poll: Connection of Gen1 with Gen2.

[fishers64]

By "connection", I mean something like "Okoto is an island in Gen1's GSR" or "Vahi Toa time travel"... or anything that says that the two generations are connected, somehow, that they aren't completely separate stories. 

 

Also, to be clear, this isn't asking for logical evidence of whether or not the two are actually connected. This is simply asking what you would prefer to have happen.

Edited January 25, 2015 by fishers64

[Sumiki]

No, and Strong No.
 
Connecting them would be a terrible idea because it would drag the overly complicated backstory of G1 into the proverbial clean slate of G2. G1's demise was its much too complicated story.
 
I don't understand why people are actively searching for a connection. LEGO knows what it's doing and there is no logical explanation for any connection other than a few easter eggs. Connecting them in any meaningful way would make G2 a part of G1, which would drive new fans away as G1 did in its latter years.

[Prowl Nightwolf]

I chose the "Depends how they are connected" option as I don't want to outright say that I'd hate if somehow Gen1 and 2 are connected but maybe some similarities other then a possible alternate telling of the great story. I think I mentioned in another topic how several civilizations have similar legends or stories about what happened in the past. Well they are not all right, nore are they wrong. Something like this could be an ok connection between the two as events of one don't necessarily effect the telling of the other. They are both the same story just told differently. Like for example Noah's great flood. Some cultures believe it was a single God that flooded the world, others think he God of water and Earthquakes was displeased about something we mere mortals did so chose to flood the world. Either way some cataclysmic flood destroyed the world and only a select few humans and animals survived to repopulate.

 

Anyway I think too much direct link between the two could ruin the story arch of Gen2, such that it forces us to connect both gens to understand the new one. That would not sit well with me because I didn't follow all of Gen1...

[Click]

As intriguing as some of the connection theories are, G2 is just too different from G1 for me to want a connection. The Toa have the same names but different behaviors. The mystical island feel is there, but it is different somehow from Mata Nui. Trying to connect any of that to G1 will just result in a huge mess.

[GSR]

I wouldn't completely mind seeing some kind of limited G1/G2 connection or crossover at some point, if it was more of a non-canon, small, or easter-eggy thing.  Actually having G2's story be reliant on G1 stuff would probably be a mistake; it opens up the door to all kinds of continuity snarls and "well what about"s, and it reduces G2's ability to stand on its own.

[Prowl Nightwolf]

This I don't want. Gen2 should be able to flow freely without the restraints of the Gen1 content. That doesn't mean I don't want there to be a canon connection. I just hope it is done in a way not to disrupt Gen2 with too many ret-con issues.

[Nidhiki of the Shadows]

Neutral for both. I can see potential for a connection for sure - and even just an implied connection is fine by me. I am also okay with it having no relation as well.

 

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[Votuko]

I think this is going to be an interesting poll to see the answer to.

 

Personally, I would like some sort of subtle connection. But I don't mind whether it has an affect on the G2 story.

 

At the end of the day, there are plenty of ways that there could be a connection between G1 and G2 without newer fans even realising that a "G1" existed, so I can't think of many reasons why LEGO wouldn't include a link, if only as a nod to older fans.

[DuplexBeGreat]

At the end of the day, there are plenty of ways that there could be a connection between G1 and G2 without newer fans even realising that a "G1" existed, so I can't think of many reasons why LEGO wouldn't include a link, if only as a nod to older fans.

This.  I'd rather that the story stay as a new, original thing, not in any way canonically linked to G1.  But having little references in there would be wonderful.

[Pomegranate]

An easter egg would be perfect. I'm not a fan of a connection, unless that connection can be appreciated by all, regardless of familiarity with G1.

[Rooster Nui]

For the first question, I picked the third option because I only want a connection in the way of easter-eggs, and not really anything else.

 

As for the second question, I picked the forth option because I personally couldn't care. However, I am aware that it would lead to having G2 a bit on the convoluted side.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Why are people so desperate to connect G1 to G2? Is the story for the new line worthless unless it's connected to G1?

The closest connection they have is that Brutaka probably could use his Kanohi to travel to the world of G2. That's it. Lego does not want a convoluted story, they want to focus on selling the toys. Hero Factory shows us that. Adding in some sort of connection to a story that hasn't seen a legitimate update in 5 years isn't what Lego wants to do.

 

No, I don't want them to be connected. Let this story be its own thing.

[DuplexBeGreat]

It's not worthless at all.  I will love it with or without a reference to the original series.  It would just be nice for Lego to show some little hint, just for fun.

[Toa Komali]

As much as I'd love the two to have some connection I'm not really sure it should. As far as I see it the connection is only that G2 is a alternate Timeline to G1. So unless another Olmak is used from the prime timeline there shouldn't be anything more. Unless Vezon shows up due to his control going out of wack. 

[Regitnui]

No, for all the reasons mentioned above. Though I wouldn't mind more references, like character names and designs, and easter eggs like the Three Virtues symbol.

[aldero]

G1 should definitely not affect the story of G2. If I had to connect the two stories, I'd have Vezon end up on Okoto for a very brief time during his dimension-hopping. I would quite honestly hate it if the entire population of Spherus Magna were teleported to Okoto, affecting the story in a massive way. That just seems like pandering.

 

I would prefer it if the G2 storyline amazes me all over again with it's new story. LEGO really shouldn't engage and entertain fans the easy way by crossing the universes over. They should engage and entertain us by developing the story they have established for G2.

[ShadowBionics]

No. no, no, and no. No. Absolutely not.

 

As much as I loved the G1 story, I really think it's time to give the story a break and focus on a fresh new story instead, especially for the sake of newer fans. Plus how would you like it if you found out you needed to get ahold of material 5-10+ years ago, most of which is out of print/circulation for many years? Keep G1 and G2 separate from one another, that way newer fans who try to keep up with the story don't get freaked out and we can still have our storylines coexisting peacefully with one another. The G1 storyline as good as it was, slowly became chaotic to the point I needed to have someone explain a few things to me, such as the big reveal of Mata Nui being the MU because I didn't fully understand what I just saw when I watched the Mata Nui Rising video.

[Sergei Rahkmaninoff]

The only way I would like to see a connection is a) if it turned out the Vahi were destroyed eventually in Gen1, and the crazy time-destructing consequences were the creation of the Gen2 continuity, or b) if we see       written on a rock somewhere. Nothing more, and not both.

Edited January 25, 2015 by Johnrahk

[Toa Smoke Monster]

1. I don't want a connection between Gen 1 and Gen 2 Bionicle storylines. It wouldn't be the end of the world for me if a connection was revealed between them sometime in the future, but I'd prefer that they stay separate.

 

2. Again, no, but I wouldn't mind a couple easter eggs from Gen 1 showing up as long as the Gen 2 story wasn't affected by them. 

[bonesiii]

No. And it already has ties in the sense of nods to the similar things from the original, like any reimagining; I don't see the need for them to be connected in-story.

 

I wouldn't be absolutely opposed, as long as it's still a different universe, though, depending on how it's done. But same universe? No.

[Tuuli]

Why no? Clearly there is already a connection to generation 1! The Toa! I mean, where do you think they came from? Surely we will find out what happened to their previous world. If there is no connection I won't complain, because who could complain about Bionicle!

[Mailli]

I'm happy with applying the multiverse theory and leaving it as it is. Some easter eggs such as Vezon popping out of a portal and then disappearing would be nice.

[Tamarutoe]

I suppose you could call anything vaguely like Generation 1 an earlier experiment by the GBs. The people working on Bionicle now seem to be very invested in keeping the storyline interesting for older fans. Maybe the next easter egg will be something fun like an appearance from Vezon or the like.

[Takhamavahu]

I'd like to see that Bionicle G1 is the distant past of G2. The Toa are reincarnations or spiritual descendants of the Toa Nuva, who have yet to discover the destinies they have inherited. The protectors are an evolutionary descendant of Agori, or of an Agori/matoran hybrid.

Even if the G1 characters affect the current story, I would rather that even the flashbacks be something that takes place after the end of G1 story.

 

Like the New Toa find out they are the spiritual heirs of the ancient Toa from millions of years ago, but even as they unearth clues and piece together the story of the ancient Toas' lives, it's a story that takes place some time after the end of G1 story, and the original Toa Nuva were involved in a compltely unrelated adventure set years after the unfinished serials.

[Tuuli]

Hey, no, no more Agori. I want them to be matoran for a reason, you know...

[Jacks]

Hey, no, no more Agori. I want them to be matoran for a reason, you know...

Too bad your wanting is in vain -- we already know they can't be Matoran, since all evidence we have so far strongly suggests that they reproduce.

[Dralcax]

I don't mind some alternate-universe thing that doesn't really affect the plot and maybe a couple of easter eggs, but I don't want the tangled continuity of G1 to drag G2 down. I think anything more than having a dimension hopper briefly land once in the G1 verse would be too much IMO.

[Regitnui]

Connecting G2 to G1 would devalue both generations. G2 would suffer from the first's tangled plotline, and G1 would lose a lot of its alien character with the loss of 'matoran names' for objects, creatures and people G2 introduces.

Edited February 1, 2015 by Regitnui

[JMSOG]

"depends" and "yes".

 

Yes. I know it could severly damage G2. however, if done correct, it could still grant G2 it's autonomy...Perhaps it's set really far in the future, so only the major g1 events would matter. Or maybe really far in the past, so that gen1 doesn't matter yet. Maybe it's an agori legend that gave the GB's inspiration for the toa's design. Maybe Vakama is telling the story to the mata nui matoran before the toa arrived, with him mary-sueing himself in as the fire protector. Maybe the GB's sent out two robots.

 

Those are just the ideas off the top of my head...Bottom line, we can't discount it and say it shouldn't happen because it MAY go wrong. It can go well if done right, and I have faith in lego to do it well.

[Irrie]

I actually liked the complexity of Gen 1, so you can obviously guess that I would support some sort of connection. However, I wouldn't want the Toa to return to the core dimension (assuming that this takes place in an alternate one), as that would throw away all of the worldbuilding for Okoto. I would just want it to be confirmed that Gen 1 canonically exists, and leave it at that.

However, there's no way that's going to happen. Doing that would be stupid from a marketing perspective, because there would be thousands of kids that have no clue what's going on. Just a nice thought, but not a reality. 

Edited February 2, 2015 by The Irrational Rock

[MrSciFiGuy]

At this point, I would like a little connection between the two, but I am not looking for something earth shatterting. But if it does not happen, then no worries from me. As long as we keep getting little nods back to G1 instances

[Karetao]

I don't think they should be connected. At this point, I think the point of the reboot is to see something different. I adore Gen 1, by the way, but I'm curious to see the direction Gen 2 will go in - without effecting or rewriting Gen 1. I don't want to hear "this is what really happened all along and the old plot isn't canon". I'd be more than happy to accept it as an alternate universe as part of the multiverse, though. I just don't want Gen 1 to "go away" or "not count" anymore.

[Voltex]

I said no and no. I'd prefer G2 to stand fully on its own; the most that should be lifted are character names and their base personalities.

[The Hip Historian Iaredios]

i chose "Yes, it depends", because it would be cool to have some sort of call back or extra-dimensional hopper. If a major cross over is to happen, save it for later, so Okoto can some world building done.

 

I wish i could change my second opinion to "unsure/I don't care", because it's too early to start making any legitimate conclusions, I do have my theories however (just like everyone else).