Fry Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 What pieces are most difficult/annoying for you to take apart? Here are some of my choices: Rahkshi head pieces: The Rahkshi are annoying to take apart in general. Toa Mata head: As a kid I found one of these could get the job done, though still with an irritating amount of effort: Quote Visit my Bionicle 2001 site recreation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuragaNuva Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) I never found the Rahkshi heads too bad (you can always push an axle through the hole in the top). The Mata eyestalks are tough, but I've found that a butter knife works great for removing them. The worst, in my opinion, is removing the second liftarm from inside the Rahaga heads. I ended up building a tool specifically for that, and even then it's tricky. Edited September 6, 2021 by TuragaNuva 1 Quote Writing: The Shadow Within | Heroes of Legend | Ora Nui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzorks Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 taking any lime joint off a ball joint. So..Many...Broken....Pieces... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taria Pakari Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 The Rahkshi heads were way more irritating to remove on the Rahaga IMO. At least with the Rahkshi you can poke a beam through the hole in the top to push the socket off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Matoran with a Vahi Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Mata brain stalks, by far, I'd say. Those things were so cool, and the *snap* they made clicking together was SO SATISFYING, especially the first time you got one of them in a set (or at least, it was for me!), but they were NOT intended to come apart again afterwards... Quote "New legends awake, but old lessons must be remembered. For that is the way of the BIONICLE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambi Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Definitely the Mata head. I remember when I found the tutorial here explaining how to take them apart I went and started popping everyone's eyes out. Quote [my blog] [custom emotes] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Hovoki Zehvor Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 19 hours ago, TuragaNuva said: I never found the Rahkshi heads too bad (you can always push an axle through the hole in the top). The Mata eyestalks are tough, but I've found that a butter knife works great for removing them. The worst, in my opinion, is removing the second liftarm from inside the Rahaga heads. I ended up building a tool specifically for that, and even then it's tricky. How does your Rahaga remover tool work? I think my success rate for removing the second liftarm has been no higher than 5%, I always give up and my Rahkshi/Rahaga head part compartment is littered with heads still attached to that liftarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 (edited) The 2001 Toa/Turaga/Nuva/Metru Matoran head by far is a easy winner. I still remember being able to use my whole fingers to pull apart but it hurts a lot. I also wonder if dead batteries in piraka eyestalks are removable, if so they would win over the mata heads. Edited September 7, 2021 by (-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master of Energy Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 How about removing individual ball joints like 53585 from socket pieces? All of the Toa Inika had their heads connected with those pieces. Quote RPG Characters: Explota Akkitu MOCs: Toa Mata with 2015 Colors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Nui Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 16 hours ago, Laval- Master of Energy said: How about removing individual ball joints like 53585 from socket pieces? All of the Toa Inika had their heads connected with those pieces. I always found the best way to remove them was just to rotate them in the socket so the flat piece aligned with the joint's wall. then they just fall out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucus of the black Abyss Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 200% agree on the Mata heads they are just a nightmare to get apart. Honestly never found an effective way to do it. Quote Back from the darkness (will update soon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzorks Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Alucus of the black Abyss said: 200% agree on the Mata heads they are just a nightmare to get apart. Honestly never found an effective way to do it. On 9/7/2021 at 5:09 PM, (-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) said: The 2001 Toa/Turaga/Nuva/Metru Matoran head by far is a easy winner. I still remember being able to use my whole fingers to pull apart but it hurts a lot. On 9/6/2021 at 6:41 PM, Bambi said: Definitely the Mata head. there's a reason that despite it being technically 2 pieces bricklink has it listed as one piece. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) On 9/9/2021 at 3:09 AM, Laval- Master of Energy said: How about removing individual ball joints like 53585 from socket pieces? All of the Toa Inika had their heads connected with those pieces. Not that hard to grip those balls or their old variants which had no hole on the bottom. Easy way is use a thread a decent length axle like a 5 length to get a grip on the ball and grip the socket with the other hand. Edited September 27, 2021 by (-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master of Energy Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 9/27/2021 at 4:15 PM, (-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) said: Not that hard to grip those balls or their old variants which had no hole on the bottom. Easy way is use a thread a decent length axle like a 5 length to get a grip on the ball and grip the socket with the other hand. It's still annoying and I'm sort of worried about breaking the axle. Quote RPG Characters: Explota Akkitu MOCs: Toa Mata with 2015 Colors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuragaNuva Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 On 9/6/2021 at 4:18 PM, Toa Hovoki Zehvor said: How does your Rahaga remover tool work? I think my success rate for removing the second liftarm has been no higher than 5%, I always give up and my Rahkshi/Rahaga head part compartment is littered with heads still attached to that liftarm. Sorry for taking so long to answer this! Had to dig out the right pieces and reconstruct it from memory (if I still have the old one I used to use, I don't recall where it is). Hopefully these photos explain it clearly enough, but let me know if you have questions! 1 Quote Writing: The Shadow Within | Heroes of Legend | Ora Nui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xboxtravis Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 On 9/7/2021 at 10:09 AM, (-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) said: I also wonder if dead batteries in piraka eyestalks are removable, if so they would win over the mata heads. There is a method to get the battery out, that relies on an Exacto knife and some stressing of the plastic to pop it open. I have done it on all my Piraka... and while the stress marks aren't visible once they are put back on display and its great to get the battery light up eye effect again let me say... It was a lot harder than a Mata head is. The Mata heads I learned are easy to use the flat end of a modern style Lego Brick Separator to slide in-between the eye and the head and with a bit of leverage pop the eye off. Seeing how easy it is to get those brick separators now since they come in almost every higher cost set, I think its my favorite method to swapping eyes. Quote All aboard the hype train! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onvermel Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) For both of those heads I've found these methods. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dXK_Ajo6sA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPIPyJgxDNI Edited October 1, 2021 by Onvermel Quote "I believe in certainties. The strength of my limbs, the power of my mask, the sharp edges of my blades — that is what I build my plans around. Trickery, deception, complex strategies, they are for the weak! If you want power, and another has it, you get it not by outwitting him — you get it by stepping over his corpse." Makuta Icarax "WHO ATE ALL THE PIES! WHO ATE ALL THE PIES!" http://onvermelreport.blogspot.ca/ --- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaX7xUwGu9-8kVqQ4BqOxWw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Inika Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Everyone else beat me to it, but the Rahaga eye piece. I'd always cram the second one between the two pieces to force them apart, but that would bend the axle noticeably even if I only did it a few times. I don't consider the Mata eye stalk to be truly irritating because they seem designed to go together, and even as a kid I could sort of tell. Unlike the Rahaga pieces, the Mata head elements don't have much utility independently, especially the eye part. I also wouldn't necessarily count physically flawed pieces like lime joints. Quote "You are an absolute in these uncertain times. Your past is forgotten, and your future is an empty book. You must find your own destiny, my brave adventurer." -- Turaga Nokama Click here to visit my library! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taria Pakari Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Master Inika said: I also wouldn't necessarily count physically flawed pieces like lime joints. Well duh, they come apart very easily. :^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Knight Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 On 9/30/2021 at 9:40 AM, TuragaNuva said: Sorry for taking so long to answer this! Had to dig out the right pieces and reconstruct it from memory (if I still have the old one I used to use, I don't recall where it is). Hopefully these photos explain it clearly enough, but let me know if you have questions! This is genius. I usully just pry something flat under the liftarm, like a brick seperator, grip the sides of the head, and lift up. Works well enough for me. EKnight Quote My Flickr. Old Bionicles on Brickshelf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nektann Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Honestly it would be a bohrok headpiece stuck with an axle extender by a 2 long axle. I guess I'll post a photo soon, but it requires bending the pieces with immense force to remove it. 1 Quote Bazinga! I've been a Bionicle Fan since early 2015 and have been aware of it since 2008. Was a bit late to the party due to my age, but that doesn't matter now. Looking for krana and sealed G1 sets at below market value if possible, (otherwise it'll be a few years before I care to collect sets I don't care as much about) Bohrok Kal and Krana Kal Mask Pack sets are ones I am particularly looking for atm. I go by Nektann or Marcato usually online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) On 11/14/2021 at 2:11 AM, Nektann said: Honestly it would be a bohrok headpiece stuck with an axle extender by a 2 long axle. I guess I'll post a photo soon, but it requires bending the pieces with immense force to remove it. I sort of figured it out myself (as in a mental image) as something that should never be tried when i first saw those pieces back when the bohrok first came out. Edited December 5, 2021 by (-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master of Energy Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 4 hours ago, (-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) said: I sort of figured it out myself (as in a mental image) as something that should never be tried when i first saw those pieces back when the bohrok first came out. I think that technique was actually used in an official set once, as part of a weapon for an Exo-Force mech. Quote RPG Characters: Explota Akkitu MOCs: Toa Mata with 2015 Colors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Laval- Master of Energy said: I think that technique was actually used in an official set once, as part of a weapon for an Exo-Force mech. Yes but that was called Stealth Hunter. That set also used a gun barrel, a 3 length axle and a 1/2 half thickness liftarms that were 1x2 long. Thanks to Bricklink Studio i can create a demonstration. On the left is from Lego Exo-Force Stealth Hunter instruction manual. On the right two examples how pieces can get stuck in a bohrok piece. One is with a 3 length rod, a other method that can get stuck. I made the pieces transparent so you see what can happen, it's impossible to remove if it happens. Edited December 6, 2021 by (-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Inika Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 On 12/6/2021 at 8:39 AM, (-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) said: Yes but that was called Stealth Hunter. That set also used a gun barrel, a 3 length axle and a 1/2 half thickness liftarms that were 1x2 long. Thanks to Bricklink Studio i can create a demonstration. On the left is from Lego Exo-Force Stealth Hunter instruction manual. On the right two examples how pieces can get stuck in a bohrok piece. One is with a 3 length rod, a other method that can get stuck. I made the pieces transparent so you see what can happen, it's impossible to remove if it happens. This hurts to look at. Quote "You are an absolute in these uncertain times. Your past is forgotten, and your future is an empty book. You must find your own destiny, my brave adventurer." -- Turaga Nokama Click here to visit my library! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzorks Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 On 12/6/2021 at 1:39 PM, (-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) said: On 12/5/2021 at 6:55 PM, Laval- Master of Energy said: I think that technique was actually used in an official set once, as part of a weapon for an Exo-Force mech. Yes but that was called Stealth Hunter. That set also used a gun barrel, a 3 length axle and a 1/2 half thickness liftarms that were 1x2 long. Thanks to Bricklink Studio i can create a demonstration. On the left is from Lego Exo-Force Stealth Hunter instruction manual. On the right two examples how pieces can get stuck in a bohrok piece. One is with a 3 length rod, a other method that can get stuck. I made the pieces transparent so you see what can happen, it's impossible to remove if it happens. Urgh, that makes my toes curl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TERIDAX941 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/6/2021 at 8:39 AM, (-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) said: Yes but that was called Stealth Hunter. That set also used a gun barrel, a 3 length axle and a 1/2 half thickness liftarms that were 1x2 long. Thanks to Bricklink Studio i can create a demonstration. On the left is from Lego Exo-Force Stealth Hunter instruction manual. On the right two examples how pieces can get stuck in a bohrok piece. One is with a 3 length rod, a other method that can get stuck. I made the pieces transparent so you see what can happen, it's impossible to remove if it happens. I... almost did that once. I honestly had no idea people were having so much trouble with the Rahaga heads, I never had much trouble gripping the ends of that piece with my fingers and just sliding it right out. Of course, the only Rahaga I had access to was my brothers' Pouks, and we took it apart... 2 times? So maybe we were just lucky? Quote Formerly Iron_Man5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzorks Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 16 hours ago, TERIDAX941 said: Of course, the only Rahaga I had access to was my brothers' Pouks, and we took it apart... 2 times? Why would you do that to Pouks? what did he ever do to you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nektann Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 I did this recently and tried to remove it with force and broke the piece, but it's not impossible to remove as you can push it out with the notches on the 2m axle and a toothpick or some other thing. On 12/6/2021 at 7:39 AM, (-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) said: Yes but that was called Stealth Hunter. That set also used a gun barrel, a 3 length axle and a 1/2 half thickness liftarms that were 1x2 long. Thanks to Bricklink Studio i can create a demonstration. On the left is from Lego Exo-Force Stealth Hunter instruction manual. On the right two examples how pieces can get stuck in a bohrok piece. One is with a 3 length rod, a other method that can get stuck. I made the pieces transparent so you see what can happen, it's impossible to remove if it happens. Quote Bazinga! I've been a Bionicle Fan since early 2015 and have been aware of it since 2008. Was a bit late to the party due to my age, but that doesn't matter now. Looking for krana and sealed G1 sets at below market value if possible, (otherwise it'll be a few years before I care to collect sets I don't care as much about) Bohrok Kal and Krana Kal Mask Pack sets are ones I am particularly looking for atm. I go by Nektann or Marcato usually online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confused piraka Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 12/13/2021 at 5:40 AM, Heyzorks said: what did he ever do to you? he just deserved it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.B.O.C Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 9/30/2021 at 2:49 PM, Xboxtravis said: There is a method to get the battery out, that relies on an Exacto knife and some stressing of the plastic to pop it open. I have done it on all my Piraka... and while the stress marks aren't visible once they are put back on display and its great to get the battery light up eye effect again let me say... It was a lot harder than a Mata head is. The Mata heads I learned are easy to use the flat end of a modern style Lego Brick Separator to slide in-between the eye and the head and with a bit of leverage pop the eye off. Seeing how easy it is to get those brick separators now since they come in almost every higher cost set, I think its my favorite method to swapping eyes. I only learned the brick separator trick this year, and WOW is it a comparative breeze to the inventions of yesteryear. Plus one for that. Been a hot minute since I've done it, but I'm fairly certain the Piraka eye piece just comes apart without stressing it. Even the Exo-Force light up brick can be (though it is a piece of work...). I'd have to look back at how I did it last. But yes, I echo everyone's statements here. Mata heads (formerly), the second liftarm of Rahaga heads. Honestly, I've also found the regular pin/axle connectors can be lodged pretty terribly in regular hand pieces. It's mainly sets I'd kept together for years and not disassembled, but I had a wild time getting them all out of my Icarax set earlier this month. 1 Quote My Brickshelf, please don't copy!... ...Looking for shiny Regirock, Articuno, and Virizion!(Can trade most any legendary for them!)My 3DS friend list is full, sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confused piraka Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 how do you do the piraka eye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toa of Music Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 This might just be for me but I hate taking feet off of legs, it's so hard. Quote Yeah the gang's on the loose, nothing you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TERIDAX941 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 5 hours ago, The Toa of Music said: This might just be for me but I hate taking feet off of legs, it's so hard. Which type of feet out of curiosity? 1 Quote Formerly Iron_Man5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toa of Music Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 7 minutes ago, TERIDAX941 said: Which type of feet out of curiosity? Mainly the G1 original toa, or the bohrok. 1 Quote Yeah the gang's on the loose, nothing you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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