Toa Jaxus Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Odd thought experiment on the Kaukau; does it only work with water or can it be used to breath in other irregular atmospheric conditions such as poisoned gases or low oxygen environments? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xccj Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Based on BS01 it sounds like the mask was only good for water; I recall somebody asking about this before and it getting shot down by Greg. But let's be honest, of the six original Toa masks, the Kaukau got the least amount of attention, with the only presented use of it on BS01 being attributed to only a semi-canon book. Part of it is that the power is passive when a character is underwater, and it's also far less showy than levitation or shielding. There are plenty of ways the Kaukau could've been actively utilized but the story just never seemed to care. (Heck, in 07 when there was a big deal about needing to breathe underwater they still didn't refer to the mask.) So canon wise it's really hard to tell what the limitations of the Kanohi could be because it was just never used. (Of course, BS01 says something about time limitations and inability to handle difficult pressures, although this was a retroactive explanation from a reference book released years later.) It was one of my favorite masks so it was always disappointing that it got so little use in the stories. Having the Kaukau work as essentially an air tank would make it particularly more useful indeed. And given some of the multiple uses of other masks, it seems like it wouldn't be an unreasonable extension of the mask's power. But if the power is only to extract oxygen from water as opposed to having a reserve of breathable air, then water would be required. 2 1 Quote My BZPower Stories Dark Core--Kulagi's Kanoka--A Shadow's Contrivance--Mystery on Keli-Nui--BZ-Koro: To Bring Back Bionicle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchavoya Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Sadly, i think (as the person above mentioned) Greg shot it down and said it only let's you breath water. BUT!!!! What if it's worn by an extremely skilled toa of water? Need to breath in space like you asked? Form a water bubble around yourself and breath in that sweet, sweet, water. Poison gas in the area? Double layer water bubble. Hypothetically, i would think the first area would act like a P-trap in plumbing to help keep the fumes out. I would imagine it would take a powerful, creative toa to make full use out of a mask of water breathing, but i think that can be said of any mask. Practice, creativity, focus, and power. The only thing that makes my above comments special to toa of water, is that theyre the only ones capable of providing a constant source of water to breath in areas without air. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorentz Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) Canonically it only works in water and water-like substances like liquid protodermis. But many people have the headcanon that it allows you to breath in almost any environment besides a vacuum. Edited April 24, 2022 by Lorentz 1 Quote #makeBionicleG1andHeroFactorysharethesameuniverse and #giveBionicleansHeroFactorytheirownliveactioncinematicuniverse GENERATION 5: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 It was also mentioned that nuva versions are able to to suffocate enemies through sharing with other beings and force them to be unable to inhale air. Now thats a scary thought, but only 5 of the toa nuva have this mask. https://biosector01.com/wiki/Kaukau_Nuva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorentz Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 9 hours ago, (-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) said: It was also mentioned that nuva versions are able to to suffocate enemies through sharing with other beings and force them to be unable to inhale air. You could only do this while activating the power for yourself, so unless you create a bubble of water around your own head, it's extremely useless. Quote #makeBionicleG1andHeroFactorysharethesameuniverse and #giveBionicleansHeroFactorytheirownliveactioncinematicuniverse GENERATION 5: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(-Kopaka Toa of Ice-) Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 There's always so many possibilities that Bionicle never tried to cover due to being toys first and story second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchavoya Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 On 5/24/2022 at 1:42 AM, Lorentz said: You could only do this while activating the power for yourself, so unless you create a bubble of water around your own head, it's extremely useless. Agreed....and if you could create a bubble of water around your head to prevent you from suffocating while you use the mask to suffocate enemies....why not just create a bubble of water around enemies head in the first place to suffocate them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorentz Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, jchavoya said: Agreed....and if you could create a bubble of water around your head to prevent you from suffocating while you use the mask to suffocate enemies....why not just create a bubble of water around enemies head in the first place to suffocate them.... Correct. Quote #makeBionicleG1andHeroFactorysharethesameuniverse and #giveBionicleansHeroFactorytheirownliveactioncinematicuniverse GENERATION 5: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TERIDAX941 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/26/2022 at 12:03 PM, jchavoya said: Agreed....and if you could create a bubble of water around your head to prevent you from suffocating while you use the mask to suffocate enemies....why not just create a bubble of water around enemies head in the first place to suffocate them.... Actually, Gali did this exact thing to Gorast during the Final Battle. She didn't let Gorast drown, Krika attacked her and broke her concentration before that happened, but she did employ this tactic. Quote Formerly Iron_Man5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorentz Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 4 hours ago, TERIDAX941 said: Actually, Gali did this exact thing to Gorast during the Final Battle. She didn't let Gorast drown, Krika attacked her and broke her concentration before that happened, but she did employ this tactic. Since when do Makuta need to breath? It's not like they were devolved like Icarax. Quote #makeBionicleG1andHeroFactorysharethesameuniverse and #giveBionicleansHeroFactorytheirownliveactioncinematicuniverse GENERATION 5: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TERIDAX941 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 20 hours ago, Lorentz said: Since when do Makuta need to breath? It's not like they were devolved like Icarax. True, normally not, but when the Mistika Makuta were mutated by the swamp coincidentally Gorast's mutation included the need to breathe air again (along with needing to train light via her stinger or she'd die of "hunger") Quote Formerly Iron_Man5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Inika Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 She also did it to Hakann, too, if I'm not mistaken. I don't have the book on hand, but I think she broke off the attack purely to adhere to the Code and not kill him. Just thinking out loud here: a non-Water Toa could hypothetically suffocate (or at least severely impair) an enemy by randomly switching the mask's power (for both of them) on and off, since they'd know when to take a deep breath first. Quote "You are an absolute in these uncertain times. Your past is forgotten, and your future is an empty book. You must find your own destiny, my brave adventurer." -- Turaga Nokama Click here to visit my library! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TERIDAX941 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 22 hours ago, Master Inika said: She also did it to Hakann, too, if I'm not mistaken. I don't have the book on hand, but I think she broke off the attack purely to adhere to the Code and not kill him. Actually he escaped his predicament by using his heat vision to turn the water into steam. I read that book many many times and have that particular battle practically memorized lol Quote Formerly Iron_Man5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Inika Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 3 hours ago, TERIDAX941 said: Actually he escaped his predicament by using his heat vision to turn the water into steam. I read that book many many times and have that particular battle practically memorized lol Oh, you're right. Confirmed: Gali would have killed if given the chance. 1 Quote "You are an absolute in these uncertain times. Your past is forgotten, and your future is an empty book. You must find your own destiny, my brave adventurer." -- Turaga Nokama Click here to visit my library! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorentz Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Master Inika said: Oh, you're right. Confirmed: Gali would have killed if given the chance. How is that confirmed? People pass out before they die from drowning. Quote #makeBionicleG1andHeroFactorysharethesameuniverse and #giveBionicleansHeroFactorytheirownliveactioncinematicuniverse GENERATION 5: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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