JiMing Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 He's right though. The next XBox and PS will come out an be even more powerful. Sure, the cheap price of the Wii ended up being a smart move, but this generation will only show that their choice to not improve their graphic capabilities this gen will hold them back.And before anyone says anything, which I know someone will, yes graphics and processing power are important to the experience. Between the 360 and the PS3, the PS3 especially, there have been several games that are absolutely beautiful, and are much more immersive because of it. Good games don't need new waggle or distracting tablet technology to be good, they need to suck you in with story and visuals. This is coming from someone who has a Wii but barely touches it.So what? Almost all the games on Xbox and PS are all about mindless gore, so what if non-sadistic people like me want to play something else? Xbox and PS are not my cup of tea, and I never said Nintendo had to be yours. As for the graphics comment, yes, beautiful graphics always enhance the experience much further. But the main focus of developers should always be the gameplay, no use having good graphics if the gameplay doesn't work.And you two think we're fanboys... Quote Haven't seen one of these in a long time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iPenguin Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Judging by the stuff shown on the Fox engine, the PS3 and 360 are still going to be around for a while. Whether or not that's a good thing, it gives the WiiU some sort of chance. Quote Majhost sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBCCD Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Xbox and PS are all about mindless goreBecause Ratchet and Clank, InFamous, Uncharted, Halo, Little Big Planet and Sly Cooper are super gory. Quote This topic so far If a tree falls in a forest and we're too far away to hear it, did a tree fall? Vs. If a tree falls in a forest and we're too far away to hear it trees don't exist and never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiMing Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 Xbox and PS are all about mindless goreBecause Ratchet and Clank, InFamous, Uncharted, Halo, Little Big Planet and Sly Cooper are super gory.I said "almost", as in, the great majority. Quote Haven't seen one of these in a long time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBCCD Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 There's two that I can think of off the top of my head.God of War and Dante's Inferno, and those have good enough story to qualify as not mindless.Gore doesn't automatically make a game mindless and terrible. Quote This topic so far If a tree falls in a forest and we're too far away to hear it, did a tree fall? Vs. If a tree falls in a forest and we're too far away to hear it trees don't exist and never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Devil May Cry and Bayonetta are also rather gory, although those also are so combo-focused that "mindless" can't really be used to describe them, and some of the things you have to pull off in those games are insane.And I don't think I need to remind anyone that Bayonetta 2 will be WiiU exclusive.However, I'm pretty sure you are talking about just highly-violent games in general, and those are indeed a large portion of PS3/360 games, but tons of blood/gore isn't too common in games.ANYWAYS...So, I've created a "most anticipated" WiiU games list, basically what I'll be really excited for:Zelda HDThe eventual and inevitable 3D Mario game.Mario Kart WiiUSmash Bros. 4, with real, working netcodeMonster Hunter 3 UltimateBayonetta 2Pikmin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed Blade Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 The joke console that is slipping is pretty much sold out of preorders everywhere. Oh well, haters gonna hate.Wait, what? D= Dang it, there goes my plans to get one any time in the next year, then... Quote The Pokemon TopicPokemon: Rise of the Rockets - Rise of the Rockets Discussion Topic - Rise of the Rockets Side Stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swimming Beard Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) Xbox and PS are all about mindless goreBecause Ratchet and Clank, InFamous, Uncharted, Halo, Little Big Planet and Sly Cooper are super gory.I said "almost", as in, the great majority.The great majority? Very few games for those consoles fit your description of "About mindless gore". Edited September 16, 2012 by SmoothJazz Quote "I pitea the fool!" (quote by Chro) 98.7% OF BZPOWER MEMBERS HAVEN'T SEEN MY BUCKET IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE 1.3% THAT HAS SEEN MY BUCKET, COPY THIS AND PASTE IT INTO YOUR SIGNATURE I MISS MY BUCKET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Well, I wouldn't see getting it within a year to really be a problem, I don't expect it to be the same situation as with the Wii... Of course, I was lucky enough to get a Wii within 3 months of it's release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed Blade Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Well, if preorders are already sold out, and that's just two or three days, then I dread to think what it'll be like come November 18th. =P And either way, my only real way would likely be to get it as a late birthday/early Christmas gift, which wouldn't work if it's sold out everywhere for even three months... I wouldn't likely be able to get it for like two-four years after, though, given my recent pattern... =/ Ah well... Just another way to not be able to play recently released games; I should be used to this by now, thanks to my PC and mass amounts of fail luck with things. Quote The Pokemon TopicPokemon: Rise of the Rockets - Rise of the Rockets Discussion Topic - Rise of the Rockets Side Stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Well, the White one is still available, from what I've seen. Of course, I'm getting the black one so it won't look out of place next to my other consoles. And it's just a better deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed Blade Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Yeah, exactly why I want that one. I don't know if I'd want to settle for the White one and all. =/ Quote The Pokemon TopicPokemon: Rise of the Rockets - Rise of the Rockets Discussion Topic - Rise of the Rockets Side Stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 My opinion: the black ones are sold out because nobody in their right mind would buy a white one.Anyways, I'm also annoyed that the WiiU doesn't include a Component cable, as I'll have to drop an extra $20 on that... I still use a 5 year old CRT TV, haven't been able to get an HDTV yet... That's on my list for when I get a job... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsessionist Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 If I had the money, I would buy the black one. Unfortunately, I don't, so that's that. Christmas is coming up, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed Blade Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Doesn't the Wii U use the Wii's component cable? Or was that me misinterpreting what I read?And yeah, I agree; I want the black Wii U, but I highly doubt that'll happen any time soon... Quote The Pokemon TopicPokemon: Rise of the Rockets - Rise of the Rockets Discussion Topic - Rise of the Rockets Side Stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rausaro Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 The joke console that is slipping is pretty much sold out of preorders everywhere. Oh well, haters gonna hate.Wait, what? D= Dang it, there goes my plans to get one any time in the next year, then...Pretty much every console sells out when it's first revealed. The 360 was pretty hard to get for months.I personally hope they release a console Golden Sun, a new Star Fox, a Fusion-Era Metroid, and obviously the much anticipated Super Smash Brothers IV. Quote The Redwall RPG; closed nowUpdate: RPG has migrated to another location and merged with another. Update 3/29/14 Still Alive 8+ yearsCredit to Supernova Productions and Expired! for the Avatar.Apparently I'm now Kopaka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 The WiiU uses the Wii's component cable, but it only includes an HDMI cable. Which is annoying, as my 480i CRT TV has an RGB input.However, I might just have an HDTV by the time I get a WiiU, as I'm planning on getting one soon. I'd prefer not to have to drop extra money on a system so I can play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed Blade Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 The WiiU uses the Wii's component cable, but it only includes an HDMI cable. Which is annoying, as my 480i CRT TV has an RGB input.However, I might just have an HDTV by the time I get a WiiU, as I'm planning on getting one soon. I'd prefer not to have to drop extra money on a system so I can play it.... But, then, if you have the Wii, which you do, couldn't you just use it's component or composite cable? That's what I'm going to do, until I can get a modern TV. =PRausaro: Yeah, I know... it's still disappointing, though. =/ I'm never able to get anything within the first year or three, unless it's a handheld gaming system. And that was only for the 3DS, and was honestly a miracle to me. =P Quote The Pokemon TopicPokemon: Rise of the Rockets - Rise of the Rockets Discussion Topic - Rise of the Rockets Side Stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Yeah, I would... Problem is, the Wii would be in a different room. The Wii is the family room console- used mostly for Netflix, Wii Fit, and the occasional Wii game, while the WiiU will be my personal console in my room, which has a better TV anyways. Anyways, I guess I'm the odd one out, like someone who gets a European 3DS XL without having owned a DSi or 3DS before. =PIf only the WiiU could use the cables from the N64 era, I'd be set... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed Blade Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Ah, I see. Though, odd one out in what way? =PThat'd be perfect, yeah. xD Quote The Pokemon TopicPokemon: Rise of the Rockets - Rise of the Rockets Discussion Topic - Rise of the Rockets Side Stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Everyone else eitherA. Has an HDTVorB. Has a Wii in the same place they'll have a WiiU.I'm in the category C: Doesn't have a Wii where their WiiU would go, and has a tube TV. Also known as the unlucky people. =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed Blade Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I was nearly in the same group. =P Only got my Wii two years ago, and would have the problem otherwise. Quote The Pokemon TopicPokemon: Rise of the Rockets - Rise of the Rockets Discussion Topic - Rise of the Rockets Side Stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerMiner Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 @People without HD TVs: I don't have an HD TV either, guys. =PI can just replace the WiiU with the Wii in my room, since only me and my sister really care about using our Wii. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed Blade Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 The thing about the Wii U, is that the only thing you can't do, is use the Gamecube Controllers on it, and obviously play GC games. It can play Wii stuff anyway. =P Quote The Pokemon TopicPokemon: Rise of the Rockets - Rise of the Rockets Discussion Topic - Rise of the Rockets Side Stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Vonn Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Wii fans don't have high end TVs? omg correlation Quote 3DS: 3711-9364-3152 PSN: AidecVoros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBBBalta Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 The WiiU uses the Wii's component cable, but it only includes an HDMI cable. Which is annoying, as my 480i CRT TV has an RGB input.Both Wii component cables and HDMI/RCA adapter cables can be purchased from several internet retailers for fairly cheap (about $4-10). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taria Pakari Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Personally I think it's just another pointless novelty gift. They know this gimmick worked once, so they just cleaned off some of the dust, made it HD and bam, new gimmick for them to make money off of.I don't plan of buying one. Already got a Wii that I never use, why bother buying another expensive paperweight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed Blade Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Wii fans don't have high end TVs? omg correlationActually, it's more a matter of 'the only game system that had stuff I really wanted was the Wii, which just so happened to also support the old TV that I have, and cannot get, due to lack of funds otherwise'.Maybe the majority of people do indeed have HD TVs; I don't. My sister does; I don't. Quote The Pokemon TopicPokemon: Rise of the Rockets - Rise of the Rockets Discussion Topic - Rise of the Rockets Side Stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rausaro Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) Personally I think it's just another pointless novelty gift. They know this gimmick worked once, so they just cleaned off some of the dust, made it HD and bam, new gimmick for them to make money off of.I don't plan of buying one. Already got a Wii that I never use, why bother buying another expensive paperweight.Same here. About all I use it for is SSBB and a few GC games. At the very least the new console doesn't use Wiimotes. I got tired of detection issues and battery drain, and I had to hunt down a GC controller just to play. Edited September 30, 2012 by Rausaro Quote The Redwall RPG; closed nowUpdate: RPG has migrated to another location and merged with another. Update 3/29/14 Still Alive 8+ yearsCredit to Supernova Productions and Expired! for the Avatar.Apparently I'm now Kopaka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swimming Beard Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 (edited) Personally I think it's just another pointless novelty gift. They know this gimmick worked once, so they just cleaned off some of the dust, made it HD and bam, new gimmick for them to make money off of.I don't plan of buying one. Already got a Wii that I never use, why bother buying another expensive paperweight.Same here. About all I use it for is SSBB and a few GC games. At the very least the new console doesn't use Wiimotes. I got tired of detection issues and battery drain, and I had to hunt down a GC controller just to play.I agree with both of you, however, I believe Wiimotes are required for multiplayer. Edited October 1, 2012 by SmoothJazz Quote "I pitea the fool!" (quote by Chro) 98.7% OF BZPOWER MEMBERS HAVEN'T SEEN MY BUCKET IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE 1.3% THAT HAS SEEN MY BUCKET, COPY THIS AND PASTE IT INTO YOUR SIGNATURE I MISS MY BUCKET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBBBalta Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I believe Wiimotes are required for multiplayer.I believe it would be possible for multiplayer to utilize multiple Pro controllers rather than Wiimotes. 'Course, you can pretty much bet on your life that Nintendo itself would never take that path, but with any luck third parties will.In any event, yes - Wiimotes are still a thing. Sorry to disappoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Vonn Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Outside of Brawl, what serious competitive first party games are on the Wii anyway? That isn't a huge loss for you guys, since SSB supports Gamecube controllers anyway. Quote 3DS: 3711-9364-3152 PSN: AidecVoros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBBBalta Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 The Wii U, however, doesn't support GC controllers, so that option's out.Personally, I'm a little disappointed Nintendo hasn't been showing the Pro controller much love in terms of single-player games, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyichir Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I love what I've seen of the Wii U, but I'm not planning on being an early adopter. Many of the games that pique my interest are either also available on the 3DS (Lego City: Undercover, Scribblenauts Unlimited) or are sequels to games I haven't played (Pikmin 3, Assassin's Creed 3, Mass Effect 3... a lot of 3's). I figure waiting will allow time for stores to resupply after launch, and as a bonus there'll be more games by then. Quote Formerly Lyichir: Rachira of Influence Aanchir's and Meiko's brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Vonn Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 It's just gonna be like the Wii dude, nothing is gonna be relevant outside of first party games.But Lego City looks so adorable I might get a 3DS just for it Quote 3DS: 3711-9364-3152 PSN: AidecVoros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I don't know, some third party games might actually be rather good on WiiU, plus there are some good third-party exclusives. But, of course, the big thing will always be the first-party games, but the WiiU will also have support besides their usual first-party games- which seriously range in quality from total junk to gems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Vonn Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I dunno, Bayonetta was an only okay and that's all the Wii U seems to have going for it [in terms of third party games] at the moment, Bayonetta 2. Quote 3DS: 3711-9364-3152 PSN: AidecVoros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed Blade Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 It's just gonna be like the Wii dude, nothing is gonna be relevant outside of first party games.But Lego City looks so adorable I might get a 3DS just for itMonster Hunter 3 Ultimate. That's pretty much a system seller over in japan, and for a good reason; it's a good RPG-like game. Quote The Pokemon TopicPokemon: Rise of the Rockets - Rise of the Rockets Discussion Topic - Rise of the Rockets Side Stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Vonn Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Never heard of it, but I know anything Nintendo sells like crazy in Japan. Microsoft, and to a lesser extent Sony, ignore the ###### out of the Japanese market. Quote 3DS: 3711-9364-3152 PSN: AidecVoros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Well, Bayonetta 2 may be the only big "exclusive" right now, but there are some others that have been super-enhanced for the WiiU- so much that they are almost exclusives, including:Mass Effect 3 (Includes most, if not all DLC, plus the stories of ME 1&2)Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge (Team Ninja basically rebuilt the game from the ground up. And initial impressions are much better than the earlier release of NG3)Arkham City: Armored Edition (All I know about this one is that it's been greatly enhanced from the original)Plus there's a very good amount of non-exclusive third party support, which was a huge problem with the Wii. If a multiplatform game was on the Wii, chances are, that was the worst version. Now, it'll be good until (at least) 2015, which is when Sony plans to support the PS3 until, so there will be about 3 years of- at the very least- a solid, multiplatform library. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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